Obama urges court to overturn gay mar...

Obama urges court to overturn gay marriage ban

There are 23 comments on the www.boston.com story from Feb 28, 2013, titled Obama urges court to overturn gay marriage ban. In it, www.boston.com reports that:

WASHINGTON (AP) — In a historic argument for gay rights, President Barack Obama on Thursday urged the Supreme Court to overturn California’s same-sex marriage ban and turn a skeptical eye on similar prohibitions across the country.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#24 Mar 1, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Mr. Obama on the bench of the SCOTUS !!!!
You have finally exceeded all expectations of your capacity for evil designs.
I LOVE IT !!!
Sadly, he'd probably have to recuse himself from almost every issue under current standards.(sigh)
Still, I'm with "Ralph". That one never would have occurred to me.
Good on ya.
I can't take credit for the idea; I heard it elsewhere, but I forget where.

It does seem a logical fit. Obama taught constitutional law before being elected. He obviously has the political experience. He'd be another black on the court, and he's the right age for a long tenure. I doubt the recusal issue would be that significant, besides which it's entirely up to the individual justice whether to recuse themselves; they seldom do.

I seriously think it's a good idea, and not just because it would give the conservatives an aneurysm! He'll be 55 when he steps down in 2017; what else is he going to do for the rest of his life?

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#25 Mar 1, 2013
Portion of the brief filed by the American Sociological Association in the SSM SCOTUS case:
http://pamshouseblend.firedoglake.com/2013/03...

" First, the Regnerus study does not specifically examine children born or adopted into same-sex parent families, but instead examines children who, from the time they were born until they were 18 or moved out, had a parent who at any time had “a same-sex romantic relationship.”. As Regnerus noted, the majority of the individuals characterized by him as children of “lesbian mothers” and “gay fathers” were the offspring of failed opposite- sex unions whose parent subsequently had a same-sex relationship. In other words, Regnerus did not study or analyze the children of two same-sex parents.

Second, when the Regnerus study compared the children of parents who at one point had a “same-sex romantic relationship,” most of whom had experienced a family dissolution or single motherhood, to children raised by two biological, married opposite-sex parents, the study stripped away all divorced, single, and stepparent families from the opposite-sex group, leaving only stable, married, opposite-sex families as the comparison... Thus, it was hardly surprising that the opposite-sex group had better outcomes given that stability is a key predictor of positive child wellbeing. By so doing, the Regnerus study makes inappropriate apples-to-oranges comparisons.

Third, Regnerus’s first published analysis of his research data failed to consider whether the children lived with, or were raised by, the parent who was, at some point, apparently involved in “a romantic relationship with someone of the same sex” and that same-sex partner. Instead, Regnerus categorized children as raised by a parent in a same-sex romantic relationship regardless of whether they were in fact raised by the parent and the parent’s same-sex romantic partner and regardless of the amount of time that they spent under the parent’s care. As a result, so long as an adult child believed that he or she had had a parent who had a relationship with someone of the same sex, then he or she was counted by Regnerus as having been “raised by” a parent in a same-sex relationship.

Fourth, in contrast to every other study on same-sex parenting, Regnerus identified parents who had purportedly engaged in a same-sex romantic relationship based solely on the child’s own retrospective report of the parent’s romantic relationships, made once the child was an adult. This unusual measurement strategy ignored the fact that the child may have limited and inaccurate recollections of the parents’ distant romantic past.

Finally, the study fails to account for the fact that the negative outcomes may have been caused by other childhood events or events later in the individual’s adult life, particularly given that the vast majority (thirty-seven of forty) of the outcomes measured were adult and not childhood outcomes. Factors other than same-sex parenting are likely to explain these negative outcomes in the Regnerus study. Regnerus himself concludes that “I am thus not suggesting that growing up with a lesbian mother or gay father causes suboptimal outcomes because of the sexual orientation or sexual behavior of the parent.”

In sum, by conflating (1) children raised by same-sex parents with (2) individuals who reportedly had a parent who had “a romantic relationship with someone of the same sex,” and referring to such individuals as children of “lesbian mothers” or “gay fathers,” the Regnerus study obscures the fact that it did not specifically examine children raised by two same-sex parents. Accordingly, it cannot speak to the impact of same-sex parenting on child outcomes."

I suggest we all copy this and re-post it as much as possible. As the saying goes,"The TRUTH will set you free".

Since: Mar 09

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#26 Mar 1, 2013
DNF wrote:
Portion of the brief filed by the American Sociological Association in the SSM SCOTUS case:
http://pamshouseblend.firedoglake.com/2013/03...
" First, the Regnerus study does not specifically examine children born or adopted into same-sex parent families, but instead examines children who, from the time they were born until they were 18 or moved out, had a parent who at any time had “a same-sex romantic relationship.”...
In sum, by conflating (1) children raised by same-sex parents with (2) individuals who reportedly had a parent who had “a romantic relationship with someone of the same sex,” and referring to such individuals as children of “lesbian mothers” or “gay fathers,” the Regnerus study obscures the fact that it did not specifically examine children raised by two same-sex parents. Accordingly, it cannot speak to the impact of same-sex parenting on child outcomes."
I suggest we all copy this and re-post it as much as possible. As the saying goes,"The TRUTH will set you free".
We need to SPAM that (with links to the brief from the ASA) to every news media outlet and talk show producer we can reach.

It's a real story!

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