Redemption for Grossman

Redemption for Grossman

There are 30 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Nov 11, 2007, titled Redemption for Grossman. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

It was awful. Just awful. Anyone who had devoted almost three hours of his existence to this particular football game Sunday figured it was time to make funeral arrangements for the Bears' dead offense.

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Michele

United States

#1 Nov 12, 2007
Grossman wins for the Bears??? He also threw some real duds that could have been picked off. Thank God the Raiders defense is more horrible than our lackluster offense. Don't get too excited Bears fans. How many yards did Benson get against the worst rushing defense in the league? What a joke. At least our defense looked a little better this week.

3/4 of the game was a snore-fest; Happy they won but I'm not getting my hopes up!
The 5th Angel

Bloomingdale, IL

#2 Nov 12, 2007
Geez...here we go again with the Wrecks solid waste.

Against the vaunted Raider Defense, luck would have it on this day. The idiots in Chicago will now start babbling about the "play-off" bound Bearies.

Orton would have done the same thing, perhaps even better, had he been given a chance.
The 5th Angel

Bloomingdale, IL

#3 Nov 12, 2007
Oh that's interesting. This website censors the word I d I o t s.

Welcome to America.
Ted

Kaukauna, WI

#4 Nov 12, 2007
Way to go Rex, a win is a win, and I for one will take it even if the rest of you cynics gripe about it
citzen of us

United States

#5 Nov 12, 2007
hopefully they will keep Rex in there so we can get better.
Go SOX-Hawks-Bears

AOL

#6 Nov 12, 2007
I have an idea?? Keep Rex in there,Let Peterson start at back for a bit and how bout an Offensive Cood That lets Rex be Rex?? Oh yea, maybe an Offensive line that plays like last seasons?? Ahhhhh, for last year all over again.
Santorini

United States

#7 Nov 12, 2007
If the media continue to downgrade Grossman to the point where he leaves the team, the Bears will lose a quarterback with tremendous potential to be outstanding once he gains more experience. And another team will profit from yet another Bears -- and media -- mistake.
Paul

United States

#8 Nov 12, 2007
The Bears will be bad as long as Lovi, Turner and Rex are in town. The difference between the Cubs and the Bears? The Cubs could kind of win in the worst division.
Florida Jim

Altamonte Springs, FL

#9 Nov 12, 2007
Hooray for Rex! The Bears have a long way to go but it is a win and if they can win this week, who knows?
Slickster

Miami, FL

#10 Nov 12, 2007
Here we go again: Rex throws it as far as he can, Bernard Berrian runs under it and we have the second coming of Sid Luckman.

Couldn't watch the game in FL, but it sounds like it was a full scale snore fest. Rex bumbled and bobbled and got away with some pretty bad throws. The Raiders aren't even competitive in this league anymore, so this was no measure.

I hope things get better, I really want things to get better, but with this coaching staff, I fear we will experience even more under achieving before the season is over.
Bill Dwyer

Palatine, IL

#11 Nov 12, 2007
I'm happy for Rex. But if one gunslinger throw for a TD means we're back to mass denial in the Bear's lockerrom, I'll take a pass.
It's stunning to watch his teammates speak of the criticism that was directed toward him earlier as if it wasn't richly deserved. As if it was just the babbling of cynics.
Grossman sucked for weeks before he was yanked. He sucked for most of the second half when he took over for Griese. Then he hit Berrian with a bomb. That's not exactly an insync offense.
Enjoy the win over a bad team, Bears. But spare me the rationalizing.
MDC

New York, NY

#12 Nov 12, 2007
Grossman is going to have to do a lot more than throw one lucky pass to gain my respect and support. At least he didn't keep handing it to "3-yards per game" Benson. Get rid of both of them and get us some people who can and will play football.
Mike downers grove

Dodgeville, WI

#13 Nov 12, 2007
A Large W for Rex and the Bears
Job well done all others pick
another team to hate please you
dont belong here
Jeff - Naperville

Downers Grove, IL

#14 Nov 12, 2007
Why such hatred for Grossman? All his detractors are mental midgets when it comes to football knowledge. Look around the league, and tell me how many "great" QBs you see. Heck, even Peyton Manning threw 6 picks. Rex still has a terrific upside; he'll play for a long time in this league and enjoy success. The Bears would be foolish to give up on him. Rick, you hit it right. Rex has a high risk-reward ratio, but as he gains experience, the rewards get better.
Patrick

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#15 Nov 12, 2007
Bill Dwyer wrote:
I'm happy for Rex. But if one gunslinger throw for a TD means we're back to mass denial in the Bear's lockerrom, I'll take a pass.
It's stunning to watch his teammates speak of the criticism that was directed toward him earlier as if it wasn't richly deserved. As if it was just the babbling of cynics.
Grossman sucked for weeks before he was yanked. He sucked for most of the second half when he took over for Griese. Then he hit Berrian with a bomb. That's not exactly an insync offense.
Enjoy the win over a bad team, Bears. But spare me the rationalizing.
Thank you for such a well-articulated thought. Fortunately it seems that many Chicago fans have no interest in the siren singing any longer. This was a against a team missing both its starting cornerbacks and if Berrian didn't make a great catch his performance would have stunk.
I saw no difference btw the guy that was benched weeks ago and now. He's too short, too slow and too dense to be an NFL QB. Take your tired act elsewhere next year. We are starting over. So long...it hasn't been fun.
DA GOOSE

Sharps, VA

#17 Nov 12, 2007
I don't care if it was "good Rex, bad Rex," or some imposter wearing his jersey. All I know is that the bears have a "W" and that's great for now. I think we can all agree that there will be changes next season, but for now let's just try to get through this one with a little respect and hopefully a lot less criticsm from the media and all the other Bear haters.
Hardliner

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Nov 12, 2007
Lets look at the Bears as a whole and grade them realistically.
Upper Management- Below average
Coaching Staff- Below average, Fire Turner and Babich, we are stuck with Dummy, I mean Lovie.
Quarterbacks- Below Average, The Bears trying to sort out this position reminds me of the story in Greek mythology where the guy constantly rolls a ball up a hill only to have it roll down gain at the top and is doomed for eternity to start over again and again forever.
Offensive line- Average and getting older every minute
Running backs- Below Average, absolute joke, another management blunder
Receivers- Below average, not one would be a starter on any other team.
Tight ends- Average, please get them the ball! They are a solid group.
Special teams- Excellent- field position has been wasted all year.
Defensive line- Average, Hope Tommie Harris does not have an injury-plagued career.
Linebackers- Above average- above average is a failing grade for this group.
Secondary- Below average- Putting all of your eggs in the Mike Brown/Adam Archelleta basket goes back to the below average grade for management and coaching.

Summary: They are going nowhere this year and the prospects for the next several years look bleak. Urhlacher and Krutz are about to fall into the tail end of their careers. There is not much to build around here for the future where as the Lions, Vikings and Packers have young talent at the skill positions that will continue to develop while the Bears get older. Angelo has blown too many draft picks. I don’t see this team making the playoffs for the next several years.
achilles

Los Angeles, CA

#19 Nov 12, 2007
I agree dont start rex and cut hm loose at the end of the season if the bears are lucky they will lose the rest of their games and get some draft picks.. a major overhaul is needed and please someone dump angelo as well!!
Mike

Roselle, IL

#20 Nov 12, 2007
Jeff - Naperville wrote:
Heck, even Peyton Manning threw 6 picks.
If I'm not mistaken, isn't that 10 turnovers (and two losses) in two weeks? Wonder when the folks in Indianapolis are going to start calling for a QB change!!!

My feelings on Grossman are mixed, but the fact is he got the job done yesterday. Let's leave it at that for at least the next couple of days.
Slickster

Miami, FL

#21 Nov 12, 2007
Jeff - Naperville wrote:
Why such hatred for Grossman? All his detractors are mental midgets when it comes to football knowledge. Look around the league, and tell me how many "great" QBs you see. Heck, even Peyton Manning threw 6 picks. Rex still has a terrific upside; he'll play for a long time in this league and enjoy success. The Bears would be foolish to give up on him. Rick, you hit it right. Rex has a high risk-reward ratio, but as he gains experience, the rewards get better.
Jeff, you err in referring to anyone criticizing Grossman as haters. Quite the opposite, we are all fans and many of us know the game far better than you realize. In fact, some of us, like FL residents, watched Grossman in college, where he prospered one year under Steve Spurrier, filling the air with footballs and getting a lot of yards because of it. But, when the game mattered, when the pressure was on, he folded like a cheap cot.

Sure, everyone - even Manning - has a bad day. But stack his upside against it and it looks like a pretty good tradeoff. Rex, on the other hand, has never risen to the occasion, not in college not as a pro.

I don't hate, him; I wish him nothing but success, because that would carry the Bears along with him. However, it has never happened before and I cannot see it happening now. Peyton's six interceptions? Ask yourself whether you would rather have Rex or him at the helm of your team.

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