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Report: Free-agent LB Calvin Pace picks Jets over Dolphins

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Since: Dec 07

West Palm Beach, FL.

#233 Mar 4, 2008
Greg wrote:
Talk about changing your mind. Who was suggesting Parcells erred?
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The poster I was responding to, Sherlock! Sheesh! Do you read these posts?
Mike Jones

United States

#235 Mar 5, 2008
Greg wrote:
For a guy who thinks he's smarter than everyone, you're missing what's key. We all know that if you have a good O-line with good QB protection. If that line opens holes for the running game, the QB will be successful. I think either Pennington or Clemmens will be successful in that scheme.. McCown?!?! Beck!??!? Are you kidding me?
Even Marino wouldn't have been successful with last years Jets O-line or Miami's O-line. The line makes the QB.
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Hey, you said Miami wins 3 or 4...McCown and Beck can easily lead us to that many wins. But you said 10 or 11 wins for the Jets, which neither Pennington nor Clemons is capable of doing in my opinion. Oh and by the way:
Anonymous Jet veterans upset about team's spending spree
By RICH CIMINI
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
Wednesday, March 5th 2008, 4:00 AM
Antonelli/News
Laveranues Coles is one of Gang Green's veterans who wants a raise.
The free-spending Jets are one of the biggest topics of discussion in the NFL, but there are two sides to every story. While they have generated excitement by acquiring four big-money players, some of the team's returning veterans are looking at the bundles of cash and wondering, "When do I get mine?"
"You pay guys you don't even know, and the guys in the locker room - the guys that have your back - you don't give a damn about them," one player said Tuesday, speaking on the condition of anonymity. "It shows where the loyalty is."
Free agency is a double-edged sword, and front offices always run the risk of alienating their own players. The Jets have doled out an incredible sum -$138 million in contracts, including $63 million in guarantees - causing some veterans to wonder if there will be enough salary-cap room for them to score new deals.
Wide receiver Laveranues Coles and tight end Chris Baker, both with two years remaining on their current contracts, publicly expressed their desire for raises at the end of the season. Coles' situation recently turned ugly when he accused the organization of lying to him.
Perhaps the most underpaid player is safety Kerry Rhodes, who is due to make only $927,000 in the final year of his contract. He can be a restricted free agent after the season. Wide receiver Jerricho Cotchery was in the same situation a year ago, and he was rewarded with a five-year,$19 million contract.
The Jets are trying to negotiate a long-term extension with Rhodes, one of their top young players, but they remain far apart, sources said. The Jets' hesitancy could be costly, as the free-agent market for safeties is exploding. Former Giant Gibril Wilson signed a six-year,$39 million deal with the Raiders that includes $16 million in guarantees.
Baker, coming off his best season, has $3.6 million remaining on his contract. Coles has $11 million left, and although the Jets offered to guarantee the total amount, he apparently is seeking a long-term deal with more guaranteed money. Coles has said he won't attend Eric Mangini's offseason program, which begins March 17.
It may look like GM Mike Tannenbaum has abandoned his draft-and-develop approach in favor of the quick fix, but he claimed nothing has changed. He mentioned backup nose tackle Sione Pouha, who last week signed a modest, three-year extension, as an example of the organization's desire to keep its own players.
"That's still our core belief and philosophy," he said.
But it was overshadowed by the additions of guard Alan Faneca, tackle Damien Woody, nose tackle Kris Jenkins and linebacker Calvin Pace ($22 million guaranteed), who became one of the highest-paid defenders in the league. One Jets player said he never heard of Pace until yesterday. Another player said he was envious of linebacker Jonathan Vilma, who realized his wish to be traded.
"They're getting rid of the young guys and bringing in old guys," the player said. "I don't know what they're doing."
Mike Jones

United States

#236 Mar 5, 2008
New Jersey Ultralights state of the franchise:
Anonymous Jet veterans upset about team's spending spree
By RICH CIMINI
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Wednesday, March 5th 2008, 4:00 AM


Antonelli/News

Laveranues Coles is one of Gang Green's veterans who wants a raise.
The free-spending Jets are one of the biggest topics of discussion in the NFL, but there are two sides to every story. While they have generated excitement by acquiring four big-money players, some of the team's returning veterans are looking at the bundles of cash and wondering, "When do I get mine?"

"You pay guys you don't even know, and the guys in the locker room - the guys that have your back - you don't give a damn about them," one player said Tuesday, speaking on the condition of anonymity. "It shows where the loyalty is."

Free agency is a double-edged sword, and front offices always run the risk of alienating their own players. The Jets have doled out an incredible sum -$138 million in contracts, including $63 million in guarantees - causing some veterans to wonder if there will be enough salary-cap room for them to score new deals.

Wide receiver Laveranues Coles and tight end Chris Baker, both with two years remaining on their current contracts, publicly expressed their desire for raises at the end of the season. Coles' situation recently turned ugly when he accused the organization of lying to him.

Perhaps the most underpaid player is safety Kerry Rhodes, who is due to make only $927,000 in the final year of his contract. He can be a restricted free agent after the season. Wide receiver Jerricho Cotchery was in the same situation a year ago, and he was rewarded with a five-year,$19 million contract.

The Jets are trying to negotiate a long-term extension with Rhodes, one of their top young players, but they remain far apart, sources said. The Jets' hesitancy could be costly, as the free-agent market for safeties is exploding. Former Giant Gibril Wilson signed a six-year,$39 million deal with the Raiders that includes $16 million in guarantees.

Baker, coming off his best season, has $3.6 million remaining on his contract. Coles has $11 million left, and although the Jets offered to guarantee the total amount, he apparently is seeking a long-term deal with more guaranteed money. Coles has said he won't attend Eric Mangini's offseason program, which begins March 17.

It may look like GM Mike Tannenbaum has abandoned his draft-and-develop approach in favor of the quick fix, but he claimed nothing has changed. He mentioned backup nose tackle Sione Pouha, who last week signed a modest, three-year extension, as an example of the organization's desire to keep its own players.

"That's still our core belief and philosophy," he said.

But it was overshadowed by the additions of guard Alan Faneca, tackle Damien Woody, nose tackle Kris Jenkins and linebacker Calvin Pace ($22 million guaranteed), who became one of the highest-paid defenders in the league. One Jets player said he never heard of Pace until yesterday. Another player said he was envious of linebacker Jonathan Vilma, who realized his wish to be traded.

"They're getting rid of the young guys and bringing in old guys," the player said. "I don't know what they're doing."
Larry the Cable Guy

Manistee, MI

#238 Mar 5, 2008
JET FAN wrote:
<quoted text>We got the 6th pick and extra draft choices from the Vilma trade, What? you don't think we can pick a couple of good recievers in the draft? What a Moron! Hey [email protected] you should see the babe my Jet buddy's layin down on the couch right now! whooooooooo! I just love Miami Beach!!! and the babes!
The only babes you can pick up are inflatable.
JET FAN

Covington, LA

#239 Mar 5, 2008
Roger wrote:
I mean...Dolphin fans need a reality check. FA's dont want to come to a 1-15 team with a rookie HC and a terrible owner and franchise, that players have been ecstatic to leave. Players that want a SB ring ARENT going to the Dolphins.If the Dolphins want decent FA's they have to outbid other teams period.
Makes a hell of a lotta sense. Continue to enlighten the Awfulins
JET FAN

Covington, LA

#240 Mar 5, 2008
Delphinus 13 wrote:
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ted just called. He's with your mom smoking after a hot night. THey both asked me to relay to you that "you're dumb."
"Dumb" is that the best you can do? I thought you "brandy" sniffers from cali or in your case a butt sniffer, would think of more..as we say intellectual profane response. I guess you left your thesauras in the john.
JET FAN

Covington, LA

#241 Mar 5, 2008
Here's how it works. We believe we had good a free agency. We added Faneca to go with Mangold and d'brickshaw. We got two good defensive players in Revis & harris and added A good DT and a pass rusher.
We have a good team and now we're better. You losers should turn your attention to the draft. After the draft we'll see who's draft rates better. Remember you losers gave away your 5th rounder for Trent Green a bad mistake! That's one less player that could've made your team better. So you have 5 picks to make your team even competitive. The dallas 6th and the 7th may not make the team.
Mike Jones

Tampa, FL

#242 Mar 5, 2008
JET FAN wrote:
Here's how it works. We believe we had good a free agency. We added Faneca to go with Mangold and d'brickshaw. We got two good defensive players in Revis & harris and added A good DT and a pass rusher.
We have a good team and now we're better. You losers should turn your attention to the draft. After the draft we'll see who's draft rates better. Remember you losers gave away your 5th rounder for Trent Green a bad mistake! That's one less player that could've made your team better. So you have 5 picks to make your team even competitive. The dallas 6th and the 7th may not make the team.
Another brilliant Jet Fan who in his juvenile mind thinks that being a fan of a team that in the PAST went 1-15 makes those people losers. Real intelligent idiot. Well if thats the case then you are a loser as well since your team also went 1-15 before. The Dolphins past regimes may have been losers but the loyal fan base(not the fair weather crybabies) are far from losers because the team they love is down on hard times. Get back to class before you get detention youngster.

Since: Mar 08

Goleta, CA

#243 Mar 5, 2008
JET FAN wrote:
<quoted text>"Dumb" is that the best you can do? I thought you "brandy" sniffers from cali or in your case a butt sniffer, would think of more..as we say intellectual profane response. I guess you left your thesauras in the john.
So do you spend so much time trolling on a Dolphins message board because there isn't a Jets message board. I guess when it's been four decades since your team even sniffed a Super Bowl, there's not enough fans to have a conversation so you're forced to get your entertainment here. That's alright. Your team sucks and has for 95% of the time over the last 40 years. You probably have an inferiority complex because the real New York team, the Giants, has a long and storied tradition including having both Tom Landry and Vince Lombardi as their defensive and offensive coordinators simultaneously in the late 1950s. The Dolphins also have a rich and storied tradition with Don Shula and being the winningest sports franchise in all of pro sports from 1970 - 1995.

The sad thing is these last couple of bad years in Miami are an aberration. Up in New Jersey, they're the norm. The Jets had their 1-15 season in the 90s. It was just surrounded by many seasons of 3-13, 4-12, and other similar futility. Being the LA Clippers of pro football has to be hard emotionally which is why you act out here on the Dolphins message board. That and the fact that you're probably a 44-year old virgin who still lives in the basement of his mom's house, and finds trolling on these boards is a nice break in your sad excuse for reality.

Anyway, cheers mate. Have fun in your daily World of Warcraft session this evening between 10 pm and 3 am.

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