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Roethlisberger out as captain, Dixon in at QB

There are 36 comments on the Fort Worth Star-Telegram story from Sep 6, 2010, titled Roethlisberger out as captain, Dixon in at QB. In it, Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports that:

Ben Roethlisberger is no longer a Pittsburgh Steelers captain. Dennis Dixon is the new Steelers quarterback, at least for the time being.

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fatcat

United States

#26 Sep 11, 2010
Cobra 2010 wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, disinformation,jealousy, and a hidden location, truth stings a bit doesn't it?
who really gives a shit about u not even ur momma and u or her either one dont know yo daddy
Rex J Steelman

Slippery Rock, PA

#27 Sep 11, 2010
Jopa, of course your central point is valid: that fans of other teams are often just using things like Milledgeville to add fuel to the Steelers-hatred they already had, while sweeping their own players' problems under the rug.

But I think Joe Harris feels the way a lot of Steeler fans do: that whatever Ray Lewis did or Michael Vick did doesn't excuse the asshole BB was turning into. It doesn't seem to me there's any point in being a blanket Big Ben apologist, since even Roethlisberger HIMSELF is not a Big Ben apologist anymore. And that's the point I keep trying to make to the haters: a lot of us don't like what he did, either, but I believe him completely when he says he wants to renew and change his relationship to fans and the city, and so do most Steeler fans. And we couldn't give a crap if anyone else believes it. If they want to believe that it's an unrepentant lowlife serial rapist who's knocking them out of the playoffs, so be it! It's just going to make it that much more painful for them.
joe harris

United States

#28 Sep 11, 2010
Rex J Steelman wrote:
Jopa, of course your central point is valid: that fans of other teams are often just using things like Milledgeville to add fuel to the Steelers-hatred they already had, while sweeping their own players' problems under the rug.
But I think Joe Harris feels the way a lot of Steeler fans do: that whatever Ray Lewis did or Michael Vick did doesn't excuse the asshole BB was turning into. It doesn't seem to me there's any point in being a blanket Big Ben apologist, since even Roethlisberger HIMSELF is not a Big Ben apologist anymore. And that's the point I keep trying to make to the haters: a lot of us don't like what he did, either, but I believe him completely when he says he wants to renew and change his relationship to fans and the city, and so do most Steeler fans. And we couldn't give a crap if anyone else believes it. If they want to believe that it's an unrepentant lowlife serial rapist who's knocking them out of the playoffs, so be it! It's just going to make it that much more painful for them.
thank you mr. steelman, i didn't come on here to fight and argue,jus' give my input on ben as i see it. there is always gonna be controversy to some degree about something. i am a devout animal lover and my jack russells are the only family i have in the world so don't even get me started on vick. i will always love the steelers, and what i care about is what i see on game day. if what happens off the field affects the game then i have a problem with that. they are not my role models, they owe me nuthing except a good game. i buy jerseys and helets because i want to and they don't owe me for my choice to do so. money has ruined everything i loved and football and dirttrack racin' are my few enjoyments besides my dogs. enjoy the season and nice chattin' w/ya!

Since: Feb 08

Mechanicsburg, PA

#29 Sep 11, 2010
Rex J Steelman wrote:
Jopa, of course your central point is valid: that fans of other teams are often just using things like Milledgeville to add fuel to the Steelers-hatred they already had, while sweeping their own players' problems under the rug.
But I think Joe Harris feels the way a lot of Steeler fans do: that whatever Ray Lewis did or Michael Vick did doesn't excuse the asshole BB was turning into. It doesn't seem to me there's any point in being a blanket Big Ben apologist, since even Roethlisberger HIMSELF is not a Big Ben apologist anymore. And that's the point I keep trying to make to the haters: a lot of us don't like what he did, either, but I believe him completely when he says he wants to renew and change his relationship to fans and the city, and so do most Steeler fans. And we couldn't give a crap if anyone else believes it. If they want to believe that it's an unrepentant lowlife serial rapist who's knocking them out of the playoffs, so be it! It's just going to make it that much more painful for them.
I am not an apologist for anyone. I am though very, very particular in deciding fairness, justice, honesty, and integrity. IMO, the law is the law and if you are found guilty of breaking it, you deserve the most stern punishment. As I stated when the allegations first came out: If he (Ben) is arrested and found guilty of raping a woman, he deserves all the law can dish out. I also stated that if he is not charged, arrested, and found guilty, he should not be punished. I will never waver on that statement made back in the beginning, as I would not for anyone.
My contention is now that the NFL has moved into the 'he might have done something wrong' category- so we will punish him anyway- it robs the game of credibility when all players are not treated the same. Such as you want to be rock hard tough on the team I follow, than dish it out in equal amounts according to each and every violater. Not doing so is a form of attempting to rig football games. Don't want team A to win so much? Slam them when you get the chance. Want team B to get better and succeed? Let the players that violate policy slide so as to not hurt the team. It stinks, and all fans should be upset because a system with no checks and balances is one where the integrity has to be called into question just because there are none. Roger Goodell has a reason he is being so off the wall inconsistent in his actions and I would like to know what that reason is, especially since the team I root for has been the only severely hurt by it, even though a handful of others certainly deserved the heavy hand.
Rex J Steelman

Slippery Rock, PA

#30 Sep 11, 2010
Jopa-n wrote:
<quoted text>I am not an apologist for anyone. I am though very, very particular in deciding fairness, justice, honesty, and integrity. IMO, the law is the law and if you are found guilty of breaking it, you deserve the most stern punishment. As I stated when the allegations first came out: If he (Ben) is arrested and found guilty of raping a woman, he deserves all the law can dish out. I also stated that if he is not charged, arrested, and found guilty, he should not be punished. I will never waver on that statement made back in the beginning, as I would not for anyone.
My contention is now that the NFL has moved into the 'he might have done something wrong' category- so we will punish him anyway- it robs the game of credibility when all players are not treated the same. Such as you want to be rock hard tough on the team I follow, than dish it out in equal amounts according to each and every violater. Not doing so is a form of attempting to rig football games. Don't want team A to win so much? Slam them when you get the chance. Want team B to get better and succeed? Let the players that violate policy slide so as to not hurt the team. It stinks, and all fans should be upset because a system with no checks and balances is one where the integrity has to be called into question just because there are none. Roger Goodell has a reason he is being so off the wall inconsistent in his actions and I would like to know what that reason is, especially since the team I root for has been the only severely hurt by it, even though a handful of others certainly deserved the heavy hand.
Good points here. Goodell has indeed stepped out onto the proverbial slippery slope. I think he was reacting to the public outcry, and the black eye the league was getting, but his overreaction could come back to bite him.

Since: Feb 08

Mechanicsburg, PA

#31 Sep 12, 2010
Rex J Steelman wrote:
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Good points here. Goodell has indeed stepped out onto the proverbial slippery slope. I think he was reacting to the public outcry, and the black eye the league was getting, but his overreaction could come back to bite him.
What you just stated shows the err in Goodell's ways (if true). I agree to a good extent that the punishment was based on looking at the reaction of others. That's exactly why it would be wrong to act in such a manner. All of that can, and is effected by race, color, and crede. A competitve sports league should not be a personal popularity contest to the very man that stands over it's competitive foundation. If it is deemed as a blackeye issue, that should be handled by the team ownership, not the upholder of competitve balance. Team wants to give him 4 games? Different story. Business decision done by the people who pay the employee. Not saying right or wrong in doing so, but that makes more sense than asking a man to measure morality while having to be concerned about results on the field. Players could fight it then? Hey, y'all made the system, the person being punished did not. Don't like the system? Put it on the dockett for March NFL madness.
who cares

Slippery Rock, PA

#33 Sep 12, 2010
Who cares? This is just blabbing on and on. Let's get back to the game of football. Xs and Os gentlemen, Xs and Os. The Steelers will control the line of scrimmage on defense and maybe on offense. The Falcons will not score more than 3 times and let's hope those are field goals. Let's see what Dixon can do. Can he put up 21 or more points? I say yes.

Since: Feb 08

Mechanicsburg, PA

#34 Sep 12, 2010
who cares wrote:
Who cares? This is just blabbing on and on. Let's get back to the game of football. Xs and Os gentlemen, Xs and Os. The Steelers will control the line of scrimmage on defense and maybe on offense. The Falcons will not score more than 3 times and let's hope those are field goals. Let's see what Dixon can do. Can he put up 21 or more points? I say yes.
Is this Rex J. Steelman? Slippery Rock ain't that big of place. X's and O's are over on the Tomlin knows.... site. See ya there.

Since: Aug 10

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#35 Sep 12, 2010
Jopa-n wrote:
<quoted text>So how would you feel about a team being led by a double murderer?
Wouldn't know, my steeler fan!My original post simply stated that I felt Bens actions will affect him in the locker room with his teamates, Hope the Falcons stomp U today.

Since: Feb 08

Mechanicsburg, PA

#36 Sep 12, 2010
Cobra 2010 wrote:
<quoted text>Wouldn't know, my steeler fan!My original post simply stated that I felt Bens actions will affect him in the locker room with his teamates, Hope the Falcons stomp U today.
Hope the result didn't crush your day. There's always next week, don't let it get you down.
Rex J Steelman

Slippery Rock, PA

#37 Sep 13, 2010
Jopa-n wrote:
<quoted text>Is this Rex J. Steelman? Slippery Rock ain't that big of place. X's and O's are over on the Tomlin knows.... site. See ya there.
Not me. I'm glad there's somebody else in the Rock paying attention, though.
Rex J Steelman

Slippery Rock, PA

#38 Sep 13, 2010
Cobra 2010 wrote:
<quoted text>Wouldn't know, my steeler fan!My original post simply stated that I felt Bens actions will affect him in the locker room with his teamates, Hope the Falcons stomp U today.
The Falcons are scrappy little dudes, and they have the look of a playoff team. Good thing for them they aren't playing the best D in the NFL every week.

“The Lombardi Sixpack”

Since: Feb 08

Butler, PA

#39 Sep 13, 2010
what a huge let down! i predicted a 17-6 victory and it turned out to be 15-9!! I am totally bummed...not. LOL! Who is next in line for a buttwhippin? the titans. bring it on!

LET'S GO BLACK AND GOLD!!!!!
Rex J Steelman

Slippery Rock, PA

#40 Sep 13, 2010
Bob Roberts wrote:
what a huge let down! i predicted a 17-6 victory and it turned out to be 15-9!! I am totally bummed...not. LOL! Who is next in line for a buttwhippin? the titans. bring it on!
LET'S GO BLACK AND GOLD!!!!!
The opposing D gets tougher next week, and the O...? On paper, they be a tad weaker than the Falcons, but the Steelers D tends to feast on pocket passers and power backs, while they have a little more trouble with mobile QBs and speedy RBs. Sometimes their own aggressiveness hurts them in the latter case, so they'll have to be incredibly disciplined about staying in their lanes and maybe blitz Young a little less heavily than they did Ryan. I think they can afford to--Young isn't going to pick a secondary apart, even with a little more time to throw. I predict three-man rushes and judicious use of exotic four-man rushes while they try to trick him into mistakes.

“The Lombardi Sixpack”

Since: Feb 08

Butler, PA

#41 Sep 13, 2010
Rex J Steelman wrote:
<quoted text>
The opposing D gets tougher next week, and the O...? On paper, they be a tad weaker than the Falcons, but the Steelers D tends to feast on pocket passers and power backs, while they have a little more trouble with mobile QBs and speedy RBs. Sometimes their own aggressiveness hurts them in the latter case, so they'll have to be incredibly disciplined about staying in their lanes and maybe blitz Young a little less heavily than they did Ryan. I think they can afford to--Young isn't going to pick a secondary apart, even with a little more time to throw. I predict three-man rushes and judicious use of exotic four-man rushes while they try to trick him into mistakes.
troy and timmons will negate johnsons speed.
Rex J Steelman

Slippery Rock, PA

#42 Sep 13, 2010
Bob Roberts wrote:
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troy and timmons will negate johnsons speed.
I think so, too, as long as they're not getting suckered in by draw plays and screens.

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