PLAYER OF THE WEEK: Polamalu's value immense

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OK, so Troy Polamalu isn't perfect. Polamalu's 45-yard interception return for a touchdown rallied the Pittsburgh Steelers after they fell behind Cincinnati 7-0 on Sunday, and he later sealed their 23-7 victory with a second interception that ended the Bengals' best drive since the first quarter.

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#24
Dec 20, 2010
 
Speaking of the Jets, Darrell Revis was the best defensive player in the league last year statistically, and he's a blip on the radar compared to Troy Palumalu. In fact, I don't know if there is any cornerback with as much popular notoriety as Palumalu, despite being a much more important defensive position.
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#25
Dec 20, 2010
 
Effington, I underrated you. That was a brilliant observation! And correct.
My comment was more directed at the Media, who fell over themselves to point out how The Steelers were at such a huge disadvantage without Troy. Then again, we are talking about the media.

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Dec 20, 2010
 
Too Funny wrote:
Effington, I underrated you. That was a brilliant observation! And correct.
My comment was more directed at the Media, who fell over themselves to point out how The Steelers were at such a huge disadvantage without Troy. Then again, we are talking about the media.
Yeah, it is partially the media who seem like they're on the Steeler's payroll - just like they are with the Yankees in baseball season. The Steelers mean big ratings and big money, and that goes for any network, so they're going to get talked up more than some other less popular teams. I give the Steeler's a lot of credit - Pittsburgh's a small market with an abysmal baseball team, but their fans are serious about football and support their team unconditionally - hence the defensiveness about Palumalu (who supports himself with lots of conditioner). And they win - which helps a lot.

Maybe most poeple aren't overrating Palumalu, they're just talking up his accomplishments while overlooking those of defensive players on less popular teams. But football's a business and I'm not delusional enough to think that Palumalu isn't selling enough jerseys to justify the fanfare.

Call me the sports curmudgeon :)
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Dec 20, 2010
 
Troy Polamalu is possibly the best strong safety in NFL history. His closing speed is incredible. While some DB's have a better 40 speed, nobody is faster or more instinctive over a 10-yard period. Just look at the Steelers' winning percentage with Polamalu versus without him. He will be in the top three of NFL Defensive Player of the Year voting unless he does not return during the regular season. In addition to his field coverage, he has great hands and is an excellent tackler, something many speedy DB's cannot claim. When was Deion Sanders, one of the fastest corners in history, ever considered a great tackler or someone who could be effective in run blitzes? Polamalu will definitely be a Hall-of-Famer, probably on the first ballot.
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Dec 20, 2010
 
Effington wrote:
Speaking of the Jets, Darrell Revis was the best defensive player in the league last year statistically, and he's a blip on the radar compared to Troy Palumalu. In fact, I don't know if there is any cornerback with as much popular notoriety as Palumalu, despite being a much more important defensive position.
Eff, Troy is a strong safety, not a corner. Also, Revis was the talk of the media during the offseason and, after his holdout, still receives much media fanfare every week. Happy Winter Solstice!

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Dec 21, 2010
 
I like Palamalu, but some of what you're saying is a stretch. His speed and tackling are about average for DB's. I agree he has great hands and the Steelers use him extensively - but, like I said, being instantly recognizable makes him seem like he's doing more than other defensive players, on the Steelers or other teams. I think it's hard to quantify what makes him a "top 3" defensive player, and certainly the "best" strong safety.

I know Revis is a corner, but I mentioned him in comparison to Palamalu as a defensive player - no safety in the NFL is getting nearly as much attention as Palamalu, and I don't think it's because he's so great. Corners traditionally would get a lot more attention than DB's because their stats are much more quantifiable. Palamalu is an anomaly and I think that's largely due to his team and his novelty hair. Plus Revis has gotten more attention for his holdout than his outstanding defensive ability - which is part of my case-in-point... NFL players seem to be more popular for what they do off the field than on. TO was the most overrated WR in the league for several years just for being a jackass.

He will probably be high in the voting for best defensive player, but that voting is based on politics and perceptions as much as it is on talent.

I just think that if you shave his head and stick him on another team, he's just your average NFL safety. Besides, I like being the devil's advocate.
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Dec 21, 2010
 
Effington wrote:
I like Palamalu, but some of what you're saying is a stretch. His speed and tackling are about average for DB's. I agree he has great hands and the Steelers use him extensively - but, like I said, being instantly recognizable makes him seem like he's doing more than other defensive players, on the Steelers or other teams. I think it's hard to quantify what makes him a "top 3" defensive player, and certainly the "best" strong safety.
I know Revis is a corner, but I mentioned him in comparison to Palamalu as a defensive player - no safety in the NFL is getting nearly as much attention as Palamalu, and I don't think it's because he's so great. Corners traditionally would get a lot more attention than DB's because their stats are much more quantifiable. Palamalu is an anomaly and I think that's largely due to his team and his novelty hair.
the other guy is correct #43 doesn't have the fastest 40 but he is the fastest from 0-60 so to speak. nobody changes direction and closes like Troy.

my guess is you don't watch too many steeler games if you think troy's tackling is average. he is the hands down the best defender in the league and the best tackling DB too. how many players vault the offensive line and tackle the QB before he can sneak the ball? troy's run stopping is what makes him so special for a DB.

I have been watching football for many many years and have never seen anyone like him.

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Dec 21, 2010
 
Polamalu doesn't lead safeties in any major category. He ranks 2nd in interceptions, but his tackles are toward the bottom of the pack among both safeties and DB's in general. I don't know on what planet he is "the best safety in the league" but if you're a Steelers fan, it's easy to think that.

No, I don't watch a lot of Steeler's games and I'm not a huge Steelers fan like so many people. But I am practical. Troy Polamalu is most definitely overrated.
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Dec 21, 2010
 
Effington wrote:
Polamalu doesn't lead safeties in any major category. He ranks 2nd in interceptions, but his tackles are toward the bottom of the pack among both safeties and DB's in general. I don't know on what planet he is "the best safety in the league" but if you're a Steelers fan, it's easy to think that.
No, I don't watch a lot of Steeler's games and I'm not a huge Steelers fan like so many people. But I am practical. Troy Polamalu is most definitely overrated.
like i said, you don't watch the games...lol. you are basing this on stats? lmao! when DBs are making tons of tackles then it means that your D is either being passed on all season long (read no pass rush) or being run on all game long (read weak front 7).

not only is troy the best safety in the league he's also in many person's opinion the best defender in the league. don't quit your day job dude you won't make it as a football analyst.

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Bob Roberts wrote:
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not only is troy the best safety in the league he's also in many person's opinion the best defender in the league.
Yes, I agree that many people think this...

And they're all Steelers fans.

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Dec 21, 2010
 
Oh and how many super bowls have the Jets won ? Since the team has existed ?
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Dec 21, 2010
 
Effington wrote:
Polamalu doesn't lead safeties in any major category. He ranks 2nd in interceptions, but his tackles are toward the bottom of the pack among both safeties and DB's in general. I don't know on what planet he is "the best safety in the league" but if you're a Steelers fan, it's easy to think that.
No, I don't watch a lot of Steeler's games and I'm not a huge Steelers fan like so many people. But I am practical. Troy Polamalu is most definitely overrated.
Bob is schooling you an all points, Porkington, so I don't need to add anything on the subject of Polamalu's superiority as a safety. I will say that while Revis gets TONS of media attention (I guess Jets fans are just needier than most that way), he certainly may have hurt his image with that whiny holdout last summer.
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Dec 21, 2010
 
At least he is not an embarassment to the organization like Ben or LeSean Jackson..

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Dec 21, 2010
 
Hey, I know my opinion wouldn't be popular in Steelers country (which seems to be the whole country since they've been consistently winning every year). I'm certainly not here to talk up the Jets' historical achievements. As for Revis, I'd rather have him at corner than Polumalu at safety... but I guess that's just me.

But come on, Polumalu is ALL OVER the media. Photo shoots, commercials, magazine covers, interviews - the guy is being treated like the best QB in the league and he's a slightly above-average safety.

OVER-RATED.

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Dec 21, 2010
 
hunter wrote:
At least he is not an embarassment to the organization like Ben or LeSean Jackson..
Yes, and his charming personality and lack of arrests certainly make him a positive figure in a league full of criminals. I'm not talking him down on that point at all, if kids like him for one reason or the other, he's a better role model than most other players.
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Yes, and his charming personality and lack of arrests certainly make him a positive figure in a league full of criminals. I'm not talking him down on that point at all, if kids like him for one reason or the other, he's a better role model than most other players.
hey what the hell its ok to disagree.

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hey what the hell its ok to disagree.
Thanks Bob - see ya in the playoffs.
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Dec 21, 2010
 
Troy's humility is VERY refreshing.

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