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Why The Experts Are Wrong And Detroit Will Win The NFC North Title

There are 23 comments on the BleacherReport story from Aug 22, 2010, titled Why The Experts Are Wrong And Detroit Will Win The NFC North Title. In it, BleacherReport reports that:

If you read or listen to the opinions and predictions offered by major national sports media experts, by now you will have detected a rough consensus regarding the outcome of the race to become the NFC North Division champion this year.

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Jeremy

Mooreton, ND

#1 Aug 22, 2010
Detroit will improve, but that's not saying much. Their a desperate team like the Bears, who made desperate changes.

“clemens for president '20”

Since: Nov 09

Erie

#2 Aug 24, 2010
Jeremy wrote:
Detroit will improve, but that's not saying much. Their a desperate team like the Bears, who made desperate changes.
At least Detroit has been building with young raw talent, I agree they will be improved, maybe even to third in that division, I just don't see Cutler improving his turnover margin under Martz, Martz' teams are notorious for turning the ball over, plus their run game is suspect. And if the Bears turn the ball over against the competition they face this season(schedule is TOUGH) THEY WILL be eaten alive.
Jeremy

Mooreton, ND

#3 Aug 24, 2010
erie-vike fan wrote:
<quoted text>At least Detroit has been building with young raw talent, I agree they will be improved, maybe even to third in that division, I just don't see Cutler improving his turnover margin under Martz, Martz' teams are notorious for turning the ball over, plus their run game is suspect. And if the Bears turn the ball over against the competition they face this season(schedule is TOUGH) THEY WILL be eaten alive.
I like the way Detroit has been drafting and adding a few veterans into the mix, they have a bright future, IMO. They should get better with all the high draft picks, but that is what everyone has been saying about the Texans also. It all starts with the QB. Minnesota is a perfect example, a lot of talent, but without Favre, there wouldn't be nearly as much Superbowl talk.
Da Bears 2010

Schaumburg, IL

#4 Aug 25, 2010
erie-vike fan wrote:
<quoted text>At least Detroit has been building with young raw talent, I agree they will be improved, maybe even to third in that division, I just don't see Cutler improving his turnover margin under Martz, Martz' teams are notorious for turning the ball over, plus their run game is suspect. And if the Bears turn the ball over against the competition they face this season(schedule is TOUGH) THEY WILL be eaten alive.
Im not so sure the Bears run game is suspect,they definity run better with the new offense because everyone is thinking they will pass. I know it was Oakland and you can run on them but that blocking on the long Forte run was a thing of beauty, that hole was Huge!! On the Detroit matter, they are improved and their QB has some guts.

“clemens for president '20”

Since: Nov 09

Erie

#5 Aug 25, 2010
Da Bears 2010 wrote:
<quoted text>Im not so sure the Bears run game is suspect,they definity run better with the new offense because everyone is thinking they will pass. I know it was Oakland and you can run on them but that blocking on the long Forte run was a thing of beauty, that hole was Huge!! On the Detroit matter, they are improved and their QB has some guts.
Funny you mentioned the guts thing, his numbers were pretty much horrendous as a whole last season(rookie) but everyone remembers him putting himself back in that game at the end to win it despite being hobbled(forget who they played), not sayin' he won't be good but that is what he is remebered for last season, in fairness Detroit just threw him to the wolves and said SURVIVE KIDDO. As far as your run game I am just going by your numbers from last year, don't know if Taylor is a feature back anymore, maybe, wear and tear has been minimal on his body the last 3 years.
wal0645

Yorktown, VA

#6 Aug 26, 2010
This article is a joke right.....these guys won what two games in 2009 and now thinking they have any chance at the division. They will finish in last place again because they don't have the overall talent to match any of other teams. They can only get better which means they might win 5-6 games. They will be hard pressed to win a game within their division. The Bears are better and so is GB and the Vikings are still very strong.
Da Bears 2010

Schaumburg, IL

#7 Aug 26, 2010
erie-vike fan wrote:
<quoted text>Funny you mentioned the guts thing, his numbers were pretty much horrendous as a whole last season(rookie) but everyone remembers him putting himself back in that game at the end to win it despite being hobbled(forget who they played), not sayin' he won't be good but that is what he is remebered for last season, in fairness Detroit just threw him to the wolves and said SURVIVE KIDDO. As far as your run game I am just going by your numbers from last year, don't know if Taylor is a feature back anymore, maybe, wear and tear has been minimal on his body the last 3 years.
I was kind of surprised by Taylor's performance, in fairness he was with the backups against Oakland. He made a couple of decent blocks, maybe Martz will put some new wrinkle with Taylor vs Arizona. Right now Forte looks like a lock.

Since: Jun 10

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#8 Aug 26, 2010
Detroit definetly is a team not to taken for granted.I dont really see them going to the playoffs but an upset could be possible with any of the nfc north teams.

“clemens for president '20”

Since: Nov 09

Erie

#9 Aug 27, 2010
Da Bears 2010 wrote:
<quoted text>I was kind of surprised by Taylor's performance, in fairness he was with the backups against Oakland. He made a couple of decent blocks, maybe Martz will put some new wrinkle with Taylor vs Arizona. Right now Forte looks like a lock.
TAYLOR WAS SUCH AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT FIT WITH THE Vikes, man I hated to see him go. He was the ultimate 3rd down guy-block, catch, or even run the draw for big yards. Plus we knew if AP did go down Taylor could step right in and be a starter and be productive. KIND OF LIKE THE ULTIMATE 6TH MAN ON AN NBA TEAM.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#10 Aug 27, 2010
erie-vike fan wrote:
<quoted text>TAYLOR WAS SUCH AN ABSOLUTE PERFECT FIT WITH THE Vikes, man I hated to see him go. He was the ultimate 3rd down guy-block, catch, or even run the draw for big yards. Plus we knew if AP did go down Taylor could step right in and be a starter and be productive. KIND OF LIKE THE ULTIMATE 6TH MAN ON AN NBA TEAM.
You're right about Taylor, but I suspect the Vikes are hoping for 2 things from Taylor's loss. More touches for Peterson and a more creative style of offense. I'm not saying it will go as they may have planned, but I suspect it made his loss a bit easier.
Jeremy

Mooreton, ND

#11 Aug 27, 2010
GBPfan wrote:
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You're right about Taylor, but I suspect the Vikes are hoping for 2 things from Taylor's loss. More touches for Peterson and a more creative style of offense. I'm not saying it will go as they may have planned, but I suspect it made his loss a bit easier.
AS long as Chilly is the coach, creativity will never happen. They are counting on Gerhart to step in, and IMO he will be a solid player for them. A Rookie RB can make an immediate impact.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#12 Aug 27, 2010
Jeremy wrote:
<quoted text>AS long as Chilly is the coach, creativity will never happen. They are counting on Gerhart to step in, and IMO he will be a solid player for them. A Rookie RB can make an immediate impact.
It's a big step between the formulation of a plan and it's successful execution. I know several Viking fans that would agree with you about Chilly. I do also, but it isn't a cause of concern for me. I kinda like it.

Creativity can sometimes be overrated. I know that Vince wasn't as concerned with creativity as he was with execution. He didn't worry so much about tricking anybody. He challenged other teams to stop the Packers, even if they knew what was coming.

“clemens for president '20”

Since: Nov 09

Erie

#13 Aug 28, 2010
Jeremy wrote:
<quoted text>AS long as Chilly is the coach, creativity will never happen. They are counting on Gerhart to step in, and IMO he will be a solid player for them. A Rookie RB can make an immediate impact.
BEWARE of the creative blitz packages' that MR Frazier has up his sleave. Guys nothin' has changed ,Vikes still have that rush-NUFF SAID. Good luck.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#14 Aug 28, 2010
erie-vike fan wrote:
<quoted text>BEWARE of the creative blitz packages' that MR Frazier has up his sleave. Guys nothin' has changed ,Vikes still have that rush-NUFF SAID. Good luck.
I guarantee things have changed. Just because every season ends in failure for the Vikings does not mean that nothing changes. It's simply a question of how much change and what direction. The season will play out the way it does regardless of anybody's predictions. That's why we watch the games. None of us really knows what will happen. If you did, I assume you'd be in Vegas looking after all the casinos you own.

BTW what rush? You mean Allen? Yeah, he's still there until he gets injured, becomes ineffective, or simply is no longer worth what he gets paid. Everything changes.

“clemens for president '20”

Since: Nov 09

Erie

#15 Aug 28, 2010
GBPfan wrote:
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I guarantee things have changed. Just because every season ends in failure for the Vikings does not mean that nothing changes. It's simply a question of how much change and what direction. The season will play out the way it does regardless of anybody's predictions. That's why we watch the games. None of us really knows what will happen. If you did, I assume you'd be in Vegas looking after all the casinos you own.
BTW what rush? You mean Allen? Yeah, he's still there until he gets injured, becomes ineffective, or simply is no longer worth what he gets paid. Everything changes.
We have an end named Robison that gets after the QB as well as Edwards does, K Williams demands to be doubled team as well just like Allen(but you know that) and Frazier doesn't have to blitz the 'backers much due to that awesome front 4 rush so when he does decide to bring the double A it is usually disguised and can catch unwary opponents off guard, at least it should.

Since: Jun 10

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#16 Aug 28, 2010
GBPfan wrote:
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I guarantee things have changed. Just because every season ends in failure for the Vikings does not mean that nothing changes. It's simply a question of how much change and what direction. The season will play out the way it does regardless of anybody's predictions. That's why we watch the games. None of us really knows what will happen. If you did, I assume you'd be in Vegas looking after all the casinos you own.
BTW what rush? You mean Allen? Yeah, he's still there until he gets injured, becomes ineffective, or simply is no longer worth what he gets paid. Everything changes.
The Packers are one injury away from a ruined season.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#17 Aug 29, 2010
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>The Packers are one injury away from a ruined season.
Every team has positions where the drop off in talent is big. Injuries at those positions can have a disproportionate effect on a team. The Packers are no exception to the rule.

BTW how deep are the Vikes at wide out? I guess we'll find out real soon, won't we? Go Saints!

Since: Jun 10

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#18 Aug 29, 2010
GBPfan wrote:
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Every team has positions where the drop off in talent is big. Injuries at those positions can have a disproportionate effect on a team. The Packers are no exception to the rule.
BTW how deep are the Vikes at wide out? I guess we'll find out real soon, won't we? Go Saints!
Were allot deeper at wideout than you are at Quarterback.We still have Berrian and Percy Harvin.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#19 Aug 29, 2010
Bleeds Purple wrote:
<quoted text>Were allot deeper at wideout than you are at Quarterback.We still have Berrian and Percy Harvin.
2 INTs indicate that Chilly is right when he says the offense is "still in flux." What was with the one in and out of Berrian's hands? And speaking of injuries -- how are Percy's migraines? Do you know when and if he'll play? I'd say those two provide questionable "depth." As I said, we'll find out soon enough. Go Saints!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#20 Aug 29, 2010
GBPfan wrote:
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2 INTs indicate that Chilly is right when he says the offense is "still in flux." What was with the one in and out of Berrian's hands? And speaking of injuries -- how are Percy's migraines? Do you know when and if he'll play? I'd say those two provide questionable "depth." As I said, we'll find out soon enough. Go Saints!
Berrian played good last year he just had an off night.I guess you didnt watch the game cause Percy did play and hes fine.Hes optimistic that they may have found the main cause of the migraines and that they can minimize them...Go Eagles!

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