Hargrove penalty: NFL now discredits video

Jul 7, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: ESPN

Green Bay Packers defensive end Anthony Hargrove has insisted on multiple occasion s that a key piece of evidence against him in the New Orleans Saints bounty issue is a case of mistaken identity.

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There goes the case against Hargrove. Goodell, of course, refused to allow his error to change his mind about the length of Hargove's suspension. According to Goodell, players that injure other players with illegal hits deserve a 2 game suspension, but if Goodell mistakenly believes a player lied that player deserves a suspension 4X longer! Does anybody still believe the bs about Goodell caring about player safety? Goodell cares a lot more about defending his mistakes than he cares about the health and welfare of the players!
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BTW packluv aren't you glad you didn't even make an effort at defending the NFL's claim that Hargrove lied? Now that the NFL admits it was wrong, you would have been wasting your time at best and, at worst, you would have proven yourself wrong ... AGAIN! It's agood thing you never get tired of being wrong.

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GBPfan wrote:
BTW packluv aren't you glad you didn't even make an effort at defending the NFL's claim that Hargrove lied? Now that the NFL admits it was wrong, you would have been wasting your time at best and, at worst, you would have proven yourself wrong ... AGAIN! It's agood thing you never get tired of being wrong.
Like I said before I didn't care about the video and who said what on it. I have said along he lied about the program existed( as he was told to do my the coaches ) so he has no credibility. The bounty system was real and he was involved in it. NFL has said along he lied and that was the reason for his suspension. This is his third suspension I don't feel sorry for dirty player and drug addict. I think Drew Brees and more players should have been fined and suspended for
this bounty program and all the lies trying to cover it up.
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<quoted text> Like I said before I didn't care about the video and who said what on it. I have said along he lied about the program existed( as he was told to do my the coaches ) so he has no credibility. The bounty system was real and he was involved in it. NFL has said along he lied and that was the reason for his suspension. This is his third suspension I don't feel sorry for dirty player and drug addict. I think Drew Brees and more players should have been fined and suspended for
this bounty program and all the lies trying to cover it up.
Do you hope all those Saints players get paralyzed like you hope Rodgers does you crazy crazy boy?(that was rhetorical btw)
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packluv1 wrote:
<quoted text> Like I said before I didn't care about the video and who said what on it.
Neither does Roger Goodell even though Hargrove's alledged comment "pay me the money" was the basis for believing he lied. But neither you or Goodell care about things like proof, consistency in punishments, or fairness. I hope neither of you cares that this matter will remain an issue until people see those things though.

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Neither does Roger Goodell even though Hargrove's alledged comment "pay me the money" was the basis for believing he lied. But neither you or Goodell care about things like proof, consistency in punishments, or fairness. I hope neither of you cares that this matter will remain an issue until people see those things though.
You are two faced, you claimed Brandon Marshall was guilty and ripped him apart. Cops have never even talked to Brandon Marshall about that night,Hargrove lied saying there was no bounty program. Truth was Payton told him to lie. Pay me the Money comment has nothing to do with his 3rd NFL suspension in his crappy career. What I find funny is how you defend a player that has had such a shitty career. He's had only 19 sacks in his whole career.Whats up with that?He has more game suspensions than he does sacks. I hope they shorten his suspension!!
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If you cant do the time dont do the crime. For real guys the Saints players had a bounty system.,No doubt about it! & now there trying anything they can to save their name. Maybe they should have thought about their name before placing a bounty on other players. ITs time to serve there time & shut their mouths. Stop costing the NFL needless money.
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I am a Saint's fan from back in the BAG Days.Ain't sayin' dat they are all right & everybody else is wrong, but look @ the whole picture every team in the NFL have been doing it for years!!!! Everybody knows it but don't admit it.
Geaux SAINTS!!!!!!!
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<quoted text> You are two faced, you claimed Brandon Marshall was guilty and ripped him apart. Cops have never even talked to Brandon Marshall about that night,Hargrove lied saying there was no bounty program. Truth was Payton told him to lie. Pay me the Money comment has nothing to do with his 3rd NFL suspension in his crappy career. What I find funny is how you defend a player that has had such a shitty career. He's had only 19 sacks in his whole career.Whats up with that?He has more game suspensions than he does sacks. I hope they shorten his suspension!!
You are a liar! That won't surprise anybody. The guy that hopes for people to get paralyzed is also a liar. Who woulda thunk, huh? You are the jerk that assumes people have done anything that people accuse them of doing EXCEPT if they play for the Bears. The fact that I know you are a pathetic hypocrite of the lowest character, doesn't mean that I ever thought Brandon Marshall was guilty. Unlike you, I can always wait for the facts and evidence before I arrive at a judgment. I don't ASSUME people did things without some proof and that goes for Brandon Marshall also. I'm an adult, so I think and act like one. You might want to try that sometime.

I already know that some people claim the coaches told players to lie. I know that means that the coaches may have had something to hide. I also know that it proves NOTHING about how, or if, any individual player was involved in the pay for performance program. It isn't a crime nor is it against NFL rules for a player to hear a coach tell them to lie. AND I ALSO KNOW THE NFL NOW ADMITS IT WAS WRONG ABOUT ANTHONY HARGROVE. Ha ha! As I said, it's a good thing you never get tired of being wrong.
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If you cant do the time dont do the crime. For real guys the Saints players had a bounty system.,No doubt about it! & now there trying anything they can to save their name. Maybe they should have thought about their name before placing a bounty on other players. ITs time to serve there time & shut their mouths. Stop costing the NFL needless money.
Was it the Saints that had a bounty program? Would you please explain that to Roger Goodell? Because I've only seen 4 players accused of anything. Apparently Goodell thinks it was a 4 player program, but we have seen very little evidence of the involvement by these 4 players. With regard to Anthony Hargrove, these are the facts as we know them: He didn't touch any player alledgely targeted, like Favre or Warner, on the plays they were injured AND the NFL was wrong when it claimed it knew he said "pay me the money." No man is going to allow the NFL to take half a year's pay based on that kind of proof. You can hope that the players will be wimps like you and simply allow others to push them around. I bet they act just the opposite of how a person like you would act. You might not like that, but some people have testicles. You need to accept that.
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GBPfan wrote:
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Was it the Saints that had a bounty program? Would you please explain that to Roger Goodell? Because I've only seen 4 players accused of anything. Apparently Goodell thinks it was a 4 player program, but we have seen very little evidence of the involvement by these 4 players. With regard to Anthony Hargrove, these are the facts as we know them: He didn't touch any player alledgely targeted, like Favre or Warner, on the plays they were injured AND the NFL was wrong when it claimed it knew he said "pay me the money." No man is going to allow the NFL to take half a year's pay based on that kind of proof. You can hope that the players will be wimps like you and simply allow others to push them around. I bet they act just the opposite of how a person like you would act. You might not like that, but some people have testicles. You need to accept that.
Your nit picking: When I said Saints I was talking about the players & coaches suspended. I know your to dumb to understand whats going on. All that Jonathan Vilma is trying to do is save his name. Bottom line. I am not going to get into it with you because you simply wouldnt understand it if I did. & I have a medal of honor & a purple heart.Cheese curds for brains., When you use the word Wimp Know who your talking to.
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Looks to me that you all believe the Players Word Do you really think the players are not lying lol The Only reason Goodell hasnt listed the evidence yet is because of the stalling tactics by Vilma & players Law Suits. Vilma knows by doing this Goodell Cant show the public the proof until the Law Suits are over & done with. They are trying to drag this out until the suspension are over.
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ezg357 wrote:
<quoted text>Your nit picking: When I said Saints I was talking about the players & coaches suspended. I know your to dumb to understand whats going on. All that Jonathan Vilma is trying to do is save his name. Bottom line. I am not going to get into it with you because you simply wouldnt understand it if I did. & I have a medal of honor & a purple heart.Cheese curds for brains., When you use the word Wimp Know who your talking to.
I know Vilma is trying to save his name. That is what MEN do when they know their name is being dragged through the mud. I also know you wouldn't understand how a MAN would act. Wimps never do.
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Looks to me that you all believe the Players Word Do you really think the players are not lying lol The Only reason Goodell hasnt listed the evidence yet is because of the stalling tactics by Vilma & players Law Suits. Vilma knows by doing this Goodell Cant show the public the proof until the Law Suits are over & done with. They are trying to drag this out until the suspension are over.
I believe the FACTS! And these are the FACTS as we know them with regard to Anthony Hargrove:

He didn't touch any player alledgedly targeted, like Favre or Warner, on the plays they were injured AND the NFL was wrong when it claimed it knew he said "pay me the money."

It looks to me that YOU believe rumors and accusations. You can spare me guesses about why Goodell has revealed so little evidence. I don't care why he hasn't. It's a fact that he hasn't and your guess about why is irrelevant. I'm not going to ASSUME that Goodell has evidence simply because you have a theory about why Goodell won't share it. More importantly, even if Goodell has some evidence, I have no idea what that evidence indicates about the involvement of any single player in the pay for performance program. I don't pretend that I know things I don't. I will leave that to people like you. I will base my beliefs on the FACTS as I know them to be. You can base your beliefs on who you WANT to believe. I don't do that.
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I know Vilma is trying to save his name. That is what MEN do when they know their name is being dragged through the mud. I also know you wouldn't understand how a MAN would act. Wimps never do.
You little runt What a man does is admit to his wrong doings.
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Your going on one inident & Not the overall I would love to be a crook on trial & have GBPfan on a jury. Like I said I am not getting into it with someone that is to dumb to understand the overall picture. Such a childish mind you have if you think calling names is doing you any good lol This guy is a Joke.
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They havnt show the evidence All they showed so far is one inident that doesnt matter at all to the case. I guess he thinks Goodell suspended these guys without just cause. Hey why not suspend any defensive player or any other of the leagues players without just cause. WOW
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<quoted text>You little runt What a man does is admit to his wrong doings.
I agree. I'm looking forward to the day that Roger Goodell becomes a man. When will you?
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<quoted text>You little runt What a man does is admit to his wrong doings.
BTW you were the one whining like a little girl about people that call other people names. Are you going to admit that it is wrong of you to call me a runt? Or aren't you man enough?
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Your going on one inident & Not the overall I would love to be a crook on trial & have GBPfan on a jury. Like I said I am not getting into it with someone that is to dumb to understand the overall picture. Such a childish mind you have if you think calling names is doing you any good lol This guy is a Joke.
I am basing it on the overall picture. The overall picture shows me a pay for performance program conducted by the coaches and done with the knowledge and approval of management of the Saints. The "overall picture" shows me nothing about the specific involvement of ANY Saints player. So naturally I question why 4 players are receiving such riduculously out of proportion punishment compared to;

1. Their teammates
2. Players from other teams that have IN FACT injured other players with illegal hits. Keep in mind that NONE of the suspended Saints players injured any of the players that were alledgedly targeted for injury.
3. Players, coaches, and management that have cheated by using PEDs, illegally recording other teams, going over the salary caps, etc.
4. Players that have done worse than hitting people on the football field, including rape, assault, negligent homocide, DUI, domestic violence, use and distribution of drugs, etc.

You seem to have a very limited view when you look at the "picture." I'm looking at it ALL, from the lack of evidence against these individuals, whether the evidence matches the allegations, to the overall fairness of the punishment when compared to other action taken by Goodell in this situation and other situations.

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