Packers quickly addressed "bounty" violations in 2007

Mar 23, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: MSNBC

The New Orleans Times-Picayune is one of several media outlets pointing out recently that the Saints aren't the first team to get caught violating the NFL's bounty rule: The 2007 Packers violated the rule, too .

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GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#1 Mar 23, 2012
The Packersí violations included defensive linemen getting $500 from teammates for holding Vikings running back Adrian Peterson under 100 yards in a 34-0 victory over Minnesota.

Now some people will claim that the Packers "cheated" and I bet I know who some of those people will be. Any game performance bonus system is illegal and is referred to as a bounty system. Does anybody believe this is cheating? It was a violation of NFL rules no doubt, but "cheating"? Not every rules violation can reasonably be called cheating.

I hope that this helps some people put the Saints situation in proper perspective. The Packers were wrong and so were the Saints. The difference was that the Packers coaches didn't run the system, the Packers ended the system when told to do so, the coaching staff didn't continue it and then lie about it, and they didn't include "knockouts" and "cart-offs" among the things that earned bonus pay outs.

To the extent that people say that bounties have been going on for years on nearly every team, it is true if you include the Packer type of system. The differences I mentioned above are precisely why the NFL called the Saints program particularly egregious. The Saints program was wrong as I have said, and it deserved serious punishment as was received. However, the people that think more severe punishment was warranted, have not put the entire situation in proper perspective.
Laughing Bear Fan

Littleton, CO

#2 Mar 23, 2012
cheat cheat cheat
ezg357

Madera, CA

#3 Mar 23, 2012
What the Packers did is the same thing as the Saints I know They wasnt out to hurt anyone like the Saints. The Saints wanted guys carted off the field maybe ending a career More or less every team will say Stop this guy & I will buy a meal., How many QBs have said to there front line stop this guy & I will buy dinner tonight right.Saying you want Stop a RB from getting having a 100 yard game is one thing They should say if you stop him dinner is on me tonight. But 500.00 To say that for everyone they face Thats starts to add up to Big money & a players looks to take the player out of the game . I think the Packers did wrong making any money offer. offering a dinner is ok even a case of wine The NFl couldnt & wouldnt say anything about that & The Governors of the state even make bets of lobsters Right any money offer is Wrong No ifs ands or buts its wrong
FortyforSixty

Duluth, MN

#4 Mar 23, 2012
GBPfan wrote:
The Packersí violations included defensive linemen getting $500 from teammates for holding Vikings running back Adrian Peterson under 100 yards in a 34-0 victory over Minnesota.
Now some people will claim that the Packers "cheated" and I bet I know who some of those people will be. Any game performance bonus system is illegal and is referred to as a bounty system. Does anybody believe this is cheating? It was a violation of NFL rules no doubt, but "cheating"? Not every rules violation can reasonably be called cheating.
I hope that this helps some people put the Saints situation in proper perspective. The Packers were wrong and so were the Saints. The difference was that the Packers coaches didn't run the system, the Packers ended the system when told to do so, the coaching staff didn't continue it and then lie about it, and they didn't include "knockouts" and "cart-offs" among the things that earned bonus pay outs.
To the extent that people say that bounties have been going on for years on nearly every team, it is true if you include the Packer type of system. The differences I mentioned above are precisely why the NFL called the Saints program particularly egregious. The Saints program was wrong as I have said, and it deserved serious punishment as was received. However, the people that think more severe punishment was warranted, have not put the entire situation in proper perspective.
Why would you post this on a Vikings site?
No one here cares about the packers, and even less about you.
You are a legend in your own mind, hardly worth the print.

“DA BEARS FAN!”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#5 Mar 23, 2012
GBPfan wrote:
The Packersí violations included defensive linemen getting $500 from teammates for holding Vikings running back Adrian Peterson under 100 yards in a 34-0 victory over Minnesota.
Now some people will claim that the Packers "cheated" and I bet I know who some of those people will be. Any game performance bonus system is illegal and is referred to as a bounty system. Does anybody believe this is cheating? It was a violation of NFL rules no doubt, but "cheating"? Not every rules violation can reasonably be called cheating.
I hope that this helps some people put the Saints situation in proper perspective. The Packers were wrong and so were the Saints. The difference was that the Packers coaches didn't run the system, the Packers ended the system when told to do so, the coaching staff didn't continue it and then lie about it, and they didn't include "knockouts" and "cart-offs" among the things that earned bonus pay outs.
To the extent that people say that bounties have been going on for years on nearly every team, it is true if you include the Packer type of system. The differences I mentioned above are precisely why the NFL called the Saints program particularly egregious. The Saints program was wrong as I have said, and it deserved serious punishment as was received. However, the people that think more severe punishment was warranted, have not put the entire situation in proper perspective.
POS Hipocryte!
Nflchic

Felton, DE

#6 Mar 24, 2012
Laughing Bear Fan wrote:
cheat cheat cheat
it's not cheating. Cheating is when you can control the outcome. With the bounty program if they protected the quarterback it wouldn't have mattered how much money was in the pot.
Nflchic

Felton, DE

#7 Mar 24, 2012
I'm not saying I agrees with it but I don't believe it should be considered cheated.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#8 Mar 24, 2012
FortyforSixty wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would you post this on a Vikings site?
No one here cares about the packers, and even less about you.
You are a legend in your own mind, hardly worth the print.
This thread appears under the Packer forum you moron! I understand why you would be shocked that a story about the Packers is in the Packer forum. You are an imbecile.
ezg357

Madera, CA

#9 Mar 24, 2012
It was a 500.00 Bet to stop a RB from having a 100 yard game Sure there wasnt any intent to harm like the Saints paying to see a gy get carted off the field So I dont think they should sit a season for it. The Thing is was there intent & if they was & they was Also lieing about the bounty to the commissioner then they also should sit out the season like the Saints head Coach
You may be a pecker neck

Duluth, MN

#10 Mar 24, 2012
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>
This thread appears under the Packer forum you moron! I understand why you would be shocked that a story about the Packers is in the Packer forum. You are an imbecile.
Try to get the roboblogger to quit posting pucker crap on a Vikngs board then. Problem solved, well except for all that puckering you do.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#11 Mar 24, 2012
You may be a pecker neck wrote:
<quoted text>
Try to get the roboblogger to quit posting pucker crap on a Vikngs board then. Problem solved, well except for all that puckering you do.
Whoever makes the decisions about what gets put on the Viking board must have decided you Viking fans would enjoy news about a real football team for a change. That is obviously why a Packer thread also appears on the Viking Forum. I don't consider that a problem. If you do why don't you do something. Are you to lazy or too stupid? Or both?

“Zimmer Turner Overdrive”

Since: Jan 07

Minneapolis

#12 Mar 24, 2012
Hmmn, well, as punishment, the packers should have to surrender the rights to Aaron Rodgers & we'll surrender the rights to Eurasmus James. And we all have to surrender all world championships. Start fresh./lol
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#13 Mar 24, 2012
Purple Faithful wrote:
Hmmn, well, as punishment, the packers should have to surrender the rights to Aaron Rodgers & we'll surrender the rights to Eurasmus James. And we all have to surrender all world championships. Start fresh./lol
Wanting to pay well is outrageous. And anybody that enjoys hitting people should do something other than play football. Football is for people that don't like hitting or being hit. I believe an appropriate punishment would be a slow and torturous death to all players involved and all of their family members even distantly related through marriage. That'll teach 'em! That should make a really fresh start. lol

“Zimmer Turner Overdrive”

Since: Jan 07

Minneapolis

#14 Mar 24, 2012
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>
Wanting to pay well is outrageous. And anybody that enjoys hitting people should do something other than play football. Football is for people that don't like hitting or being hit. I believe an appropriate punishment would be a slow and torturous death to all players involved and all of their family members even distantly related through marriage. That'll teach 'em! That should make a really fresh start. lol
Now you sound like a socialist or maybe a communist! Re-education camps for all involved! Off to Siberia! Hmmn. Is that warmer or colder than Minnesota?
40for60

Duluth, MN

#16 Mar 25, 2012
GBPfan wrote:
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Whoever makes the decisions about what gets put on the Viking board must have decided you Viking fans would enjoy news about a real football team for a change. That is obviously why a Packer thread also appears on the Viking Forum. I don't consider that a problem. If you do why don't you do something. Are you to lazy or too stupid? Or both?
Viking fans don't have time to listen to the whiney pucker fans, we're much better than that.
When you go buy a life a Walmart, maybe you'll understand.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#17 Mar 25, 2012
40for60 wrote:
<quoted text>
Viking fans don't have time to listen to the whiney pucker fans, we're much better than that.
When you go buy a life a Walmart, maybe you'll understand.
Buy a life at Walmart? Ouch. You really know how to hurt a guy. It reminds me of how much you know about football.

BTW I'm glad you don't have time to listen to me. It gave you the extra time you needed for that clever reply to what I said.

“DA BEARS FAN!”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#18 Mar 25, 2012
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>
Wanting to pay well is outrageous. And anybody that enjoys hitting people should do something other than play football. Football is for people that don't like hitting or being hit. I believe an appropriate punishment would be a slow and torturous death to all players involved and all of their family members even distantly related through marriage. That'll teach 'em! That should make a really fresh start. lol
How about making them read your stupid posts? That's real punishment!
Joe Krupinski

Great Neck, NY

#19 Mar 25, 2012
Don't know if paying a bonus for keeping an opponent under 100 yards is the same as injuring him.

“Zimmer Turner Overdrive”

Since: Jan 07

Minneapolis

#20 Mar 26, 2012
Joe Krupinski wrote:
Don't know if paying a bonus for keeping an opponent under 100 yards is the same as injuring him.
What, injured pride doesn't count?
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#21 Mar 26, 2012
Joe Krupinski wrote:
Don't know if paying a bonus for keeping an opponent under 100 yards is the same as injuring him.
I'd say that you me and Roger Goodell all have that in common.

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