Score one for Orton

Score one for Orton

There are 135 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Oct 11, 2008, titled Score one for Orton. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Many sports fans in Chicago are going goofily overboard - it's what we do - because it looks like we finally found ourselves a quarterback.

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allchifan

Fredericksburg, VA

#1 Oct 11, 2008
This is riduculous...it was the Lions.....everyone was wide open, Booker made a fantastic catch, usual for him, and the Lions couldn't get to him....just wait....one good game and we are all singing All-Pro for Orton....how quicly we forget the last two fourth quarter loses because our offense couldn't move, Orton couldn't hit an open receiver, etc. Let's not get crazy.....One good game against a bad team doesn't make a season Bear fans....Let's wait on this one.....Orton is on the same field as Butkus or Sayers, so let's leave it where it is....one good game against a bad team.
JCA

Abingdon, MD

#2 Oct 11, 2008
Exactly...he had problems hitting open receivers in those losses. I groaned every time he overthrew in the 4th quarters because the receivers had their coverage beaten.

The impressive thing about the Lions game is that he did a much better job of hitting those receivers. They were open in Carolina and Tampa, and they were open in Detroit. In Detroit he's finally hitting them and not airing it out long like he did. Hopefully he can keep it up. Like Orton said himself, it's about improving each week. Is he going to have some bad games? Sure he is. But I see him improving each week and THAT is exciting to me.

It made me chuckle that they quoted Kramer in the article. I think he's starting to become a Kramer-like QB. Let's not forget how much hope Kramer brought us before he hurt his neck ;)
Rance Mohammitz

Bradfordsville, KY

#3 Oct 11, 2008
allchifan - completely agree...

Remember how just a few weeks ago it was "cubs WILL WIN the WS".

Let's wait a tad longer before setting ourselvers up again. In the meantime it IS FUN to be be proven wrong about the Bears so far.
Luke

Des Plaines, IL

#4 Oct 11, 2008
roflmao at the rex stans who come running into every good thing written about Orton.

How is it ONLY ONE GAME ? he didnt throw for all the td's and passing yards in one game.

The fact remains whether you want to deal with the facts or not is that Orton after 5 games is currently in that position.

Who said anything Orton being an all pro ? Why exaggerate to make what you consider an easy argument?

Its not really a matter of fans over hyping Orton but a further example of rex stans refusing to even give credit where credit is due .

5 weeks ago you very same people knew the bears would have no offense whatsoever and no vertical passing game at all and now the bears offense is in the top ten and instead of even saying good job you make up excuses as to why the people are happy with the improvements are hyping it up as if it was not true .
Jamie

New Lenox, IL

#5 Oct 11, 2008
Wow, come on now people.

Kyle orton played great against the LIONS. And it's through week 5.

I don't think anyone can crown him king through week 5. I mean, really?

I would think anyone who knows anything about football, knows not to say someone is the savior for a team at QB until he plays a full season of good football.

he's played good, but there is a lot of football lef tot be played.
1bearsfan

Pocatello, ID

#6 Oct 11, 2008
I was upset & shocked.That Orton was not even a nominee in the Fed Ex Air & Ground players of the week.Orton out performed all three of the Q.B's who were listed as candidates.A total lack of respect for Ortons hard work.Whatever,Me & other Bear fans are proud of him & excited with his improvement & play.I am also excited about Matt Fortes play.He is 4th in the NFL in yards from Scrimmage.He is only 46 yards behind the guy in 1st in that category.Although I picked the Bears to go 10-6 & win the division in the off season.They could actually top that,If they continue to improve.With our Defense,special teams & a surprisingly good Offense.We could be a dangerous team in the play offs.Bears win in Atlanta 27-10.Take Care Fellow Bear Fans.God Bless! GO BEARS! GOOD LUCK IN 2008!! 2008 DIVISION CHAMPIONS!!
chi-man

Calgary, Canada

#7 Oct 11, 2008
i know...i know...its only five games, but, if you recall at the beginning of the season,the EXPERTS, what a laugh....were saying this...not a few of them...but all of them....the bears have no qb, no rb, no o-line, and who was gonna catch the ball? oh and they questioned if the D had anything left. well guess what? we have a qb, a rb, a adequate o-line that is gonna get better when Williams returns in the secound half, just when the boys need a rest. We even have a good back-up rb, hahahahahahaha, we do however, have one fear....that if Kyle gets hurt the coaches put in Rex, leave Rex where he is, we have a good back-up qb and its not him. Im pleased and surprised with our coaches, stay aggressive on both sides of the ball guys. it is them that is out weak leak.
Dave

West Des Moines, IA

#8 Oct 11, 2008
How come with Orton, or any Bear who has a decent game every fans starts off by saying "He had a great game but,...." ?
1bearsfan

Pocatello, ID

#9 Oct 11, 2008
Luke wrote:
roflmao at the rex stans who come running into every good thing written about Orton.
How is it ONLY ONE GAME ? he didnt throw for all the td's and passing yards in one game.
The fact remains whether you want to deal with the facts or not is that Orton after 5 games is currently in that position.
Who said anything Orton being an all pro ? Why exaggerate to make what you consider an easy argument?
Its not really a matter of fans over hyping Orton but a further example of rex stans refusing to even give credit where credit is due .
5 weeks ago you very same people knew the bears would have no offense whatsoever and no vertical passing game at all and now the bears offense is in the top ten and instead of even saying good job you make up excuses as to why the people are happy with the improvements are hyping it up as if it was not true .
Great Post Luke: I totally agree with you.I wouldnt get too upset with their comments & lack of support though.They are obviously Fair Weather Fans at best! Us Die Hard Bear Fans know what Reality is.Because we actually know Football & follow our Bears closely.I used to be a Rex supporter earlier.But I am proud of what Orton has done & he continues to improve.He is not going backwards,he is moving forward.Die hard fans like us are a fan of the team 1st.We support whoever is playing to help us win.We support our Bears win or lose.We have much to feel good about this year.With our strong Defense,special teams & a surprisingly dangerous offense.We will be a dangerous team come post season time. TAKE CARE! GOD BLESS! GO BEARS! BEAR DOWN! 2008 DIVISION CHAMPS!!
Maureen

Westmont, IL

#10 Oct 11, 2008
Go Bears! Go Orton! Armchair quarterbacks, sit back down and shuttie!

Since: Aug 08

Springfield, IL

#11 Oct 11, 2008
Alright, I said "Orton sucks" repeatedly after the Tampa Bay debacle. I thought at times he looked like a whiner, and his Peyton Manning gesturing at the line of scrimmage belied a non-mastery of reading defenses aka over-audibleing. Truth is, his whining was actually demanding more from a mistake prone unit, and his innitiative on audibles showed a desire to implement his knowledge. I'm still not convinced he's the real deal until he keeps his QB rating up and his INT's down for a whole season, but he's been fun to watch. Just maybe he's the QB Lovie and the Bears have been looking for.
Jim Griffin

United States

#12 Oct 11, 2008
And now for the "I TOLD you so" portion of our show. WHY Chicago decided to bench this kid after his performance in '95 when he won 10 games has always mystified me. Bring in another QB coming off a bad injury who hasn't played a down in three months? That always struck me as more than a little goofy. But then what were the Bears that year in the playoffs? Oh yeah I remember, ONE AND DONE! Great job Grossman, almost as good as your Super bowl performance. And they left Orton to ROT on the bench for 3 years as they suffered through one erratic choke job after another. Yep the Bears are NOTHING if not stubborn. But the very definition of insanity is doing the same stupid S--- over and over and over again hoping to get different results. And for the past 3 years the Bears have been the poster child for it.

I just hope that somebody (in fact ANYBODY) in the Bears organization learned something from this. If the fans want to know how important they REALLY are to this team just consider this: Just how often has the fans opinion been listened to or even CONSIDERED by the organization?
Yeah...that's what I'M talking about.
Jim Griffin

United States

#13 Oct 11, 2008
allchifan wrote:
This is riduculous...it was the Lions.....everyone was wide open, Booker made a fantastic catch, usual for him, and the Lions couldn't get to him....just wait....one good game and we are all singing All-Pro for Orton....how quicly we forget the last two fourth quarter loses because our offense couldn't move, Orton couldn't hit an open receiver, etc. Let's not get crazy.....One good game against a bad team doesn't make a season Bear fans....Let's wait on this one.....Orton is on the same field as Butkus or Sayers, so let's leave it where it is....one good game against a bad team.
He's still better than anyone ELSE they have for the position.

“Let's rock!!”

Since: Oct 07

Aurora, IL

#14 Oct 11, 2008
Jim Griffin wrote:
And now for the "I TOLD you so" portion of our show. WHY Chicago decided to bench this kid after his performance in '95 when he won 10 games has always mystified me. Bring in another QB coming off a bad injury who hasn't played a down in three months? That always struck me as more than a little goofy. But then what were the Bears that year in the playoffs? Oh yeah I remember, ONE AND DONE! Great job Grossman, almost as good as your Super bowl performance. And they left Orton to ROT on the bench for 3 years as they suffered through one erratic choke job after another. Yep the Bears are NOTHING if not stubborn. But the very definition of insanity is doing the same stupid S--- over and over and over again hoping to get different results. And for the past 3 years the Bears have been the poster child for it.
I just hope that somebody (in fact ANYBODY) in the Bears organization learned something from this. If the fans want to know how important they REALLY are to this team just consider this: Just how often has the fans opinion been listened to or even CONSIDERED by the organization?
Yeah...that's what I'M talking about.
Thanks, Jim! I agree with this message! You've put down many things I've groused about over the years.

To his credit, Orton used his time on the pine to develop his skills and conditioning, and I think we are also seeing the results of his time on the sideline with Brian Griese, who actively mentored the kid.

Rex who?

Go Kyle, and GO BEARS!
Brett

Chicago, IL

#15 Oct 11, 2008
Experts haven't mentioned this during the "Urlacher Years on Defense" but during big games, its been the Defense that's let us down.
Pick any game:
Super Bowl
Carolina back in 2005.
This year against Tampa and Carolina.
Come playoff time, I wonder if the D will show up and play a full game like they do during the season.

If the Bears can put up 21+ points per game, they should win every game with the D we have.
Orton has been good in every game he's played this year (Except 2nd half of Eagles)
Da Church of Da Coach

Macomb, IL

#16 Oct 11, 2008
Are you guys all on drugs?!? Rex Grossman would have 3,000 yards by now and be on the verge of breaking the single season TD record!!! Kyle Orton is a weak-armed crap QB and he's boring to watch. Put in Grossman and let's see some excitement!!! Let Rex drop back and unleash the dragon, will it be a 60-yard TD or an INT??? Who knows?!? Rex doesn't, we don't, that's part of the excitement! Orton sucks, put in Rex!!!

// Sarcasm now off
Bleed Cubbie blue

United States

#17 Oct 11, 2008
Orton is improving every week. For each mistake, for each overthrown pass or bad pass, he learns. We have seen this recently, and the stats show it. In the past 3 weeks alone, he has thrown for more than 800 yards and 7 touchdowns. He is starting to get a more accurate long ball, Could he stand to improve? Of course, and he is working hard to do just that. The simple fact of the matter is that Orton is more than just some game manager, as the media pundits and ESPN pinheads generally like to call him. I am tired of people saying that Orton sucks, or that we have nothing on offense (different rant, I know; but the two are intertwined, so why not call people out on that, as well?) We have a QB who is doing great right now, and has even outperformed most of the backs the media is slobbering on. We have an RB who may likely win RoY. The no name receivers have made some great plays, and have won us games. And Hester is becoming a genuine threat as a receiver. There is a reason for us to be excited about this Bears team, despite the media writing us off, and slamming us at practically every opportunity. We have a chance to go far this year. How far has yet to be determined. But if our defense holds up, and the offense continues to win games, then perhaps we can even right the wrongs of 2006. Hey, a guy can dream, can't he?
Philo

Palmetto, FL

#18 Oct 11, 2008
Problem is some of the QB's mentions also had bye weeks already.

I fully expected all you people to jump on the Orton wagon. I also remember Rex Grossman's numbers after 5 games in 2006.

Never let reality effect the thought process of the average fan though.
Preserve Disorder

Austin, TX

#19 Oct 11, 2008
Now, just imagine how good Orton would be if Lovie hadn't pulled him after playing adequately in 05, and if we hadn't wasted the last two seasons on Grossman.

Angelo and Lovie do not deserve any credit for Orton's success. Orton sucked it up, carried the clipboard and waited for his chance. Glad to see he's making the most of it.
Da Church of Da Coach

Macomb, IL

#20 Oct 11, 2008
Philo wrote:
Problem is some of the QB's mentions also had bye weeks already.
I fully expected all you people to jump on the Orton wagon. I also remember Rex Grossman's numbers after 5 games in 2006.
Never let reality effect the thought process of the average fan though.
Yeah us stupid fans who wanted Orton at QB. Look at how stupid we are. I wish I was an above-"average fan" like you who knows more than the rest of us. I was just saying the other day: What Would Philo Do?

Some of the "average fan"s you speak of seem to know a little more about football than you give them credit. They compare the pocket presence of Orton and Grossman; the accuracy; the composure and then realize that Grossman will never be the answer. Nobody is putting Orton in Honolulu much less the Hall of Fame, but maybe you could come down off your high horse sometime and maybe learn some things from us "average fans".

Oh ... and maybe the next high horse you buy will come with the prick on the bottom instead of on top.

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