Chicago Bears' Ron Turner's aim this ...

Chicago Bears' Ron Turner's aim this year: Find a playmaker

There are 130 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 20, 2009, titled Chicago Bears' Ron Turner's aim this year: Find a playmaker. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

MOBILE, Ala. - Ron Turner never flinched as the Bears sliced three coaches from their staff this off-season, cutting ties with defensive assistants Brick Haley, Steven Wilks and Lloyd Lee.

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Paul

United States

#123 Jan 24, 2009
I don't want to hear any excuses, play like proffesionals not like amatures. The bears are a laughfing stock of the NFL, whenever other teams play us they are always confident of beating us. Bears are a laim and borrrrring team, compare to the real man 85 bears, this guys are overpaid little girls who havbe no shame in losing. We need proffesionals on the team, not second string players who would not start on other teams. Charles Tillman is a second string, Kyle Orton is cecond string.
Bears Fan

Batavia, IL

#124 Jan 24, 2009
sweet34 wrote:
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Yes maybe not a complete washout in 40 years, and granted Jimmy Mac wasn't the greatest, but, he was a winner.
Too bad GB's Martin took a good part of our success in those years with that cheap blow. I think we played Flutie in the playoffs after that injury.
I wonder when will pay Green Bay back??? I always wondered why we didn't cheap shot Farve just once,(although I am not condoning it). Oh well, it's old history now.
Kramer, same, we just didn't get enough years out of him.
And as fas as running game, decent QB, great defense; I think that is a winning formula for CHI even though we can only show 1 victory and 1 loss in SB's... i'd rather us be a all control team. I think that has a lot of success in the NFL.
As you know, one of the things the Walsh 9'ers struggled with was that they scored fast, so, in many ways, they'd be up on a team, but, there was so much time on the clock the other team could get back in it sometimes.
SO, ball control is a great weapon, if you also score. Kepping the other team off makes a lot of sense in so many regards.
The book Genius indicates that Walsh's philosophy was to be the aggressor, formed from his boxing background. So, his team's quick strike ability and ability to score first was rooted in this philosophy. But I must respectfully disagree. His teams were all about ball control. His teams had thousand yard rushers, who were also adept at handling the swing pass. The chains were always moving. Most teams end up in 3rd and long situations while his teams end up in shorter 3rd and 2, 3rd and 1 situations. Next thing you know, the opposing team is backed up against its goal line and the opposing defense is tired because it's been on the field for five minutes.

His quarterbacks rarely threw interceptions, but they more than game managers. They made plays. Cardinal rule of team sports is to make the other team beat you. He understood that and made that the foundation of his offense, but note how that did not limit him the way it limits Baltimore, for example. A lot of present day coaches have [email protected]@rdized this philosophy into today's unimaginative don't lose proposition. It must have irked Walsh to see Dilfer in a 49er uniform.

Anyway, jumping out to lead now puts the opposing team into passing mode. Don't have to worry about the running game anymore. Walsh's defense now has its ears pinned to rush the quarterback. Of course, he was smart enough to delegate the task of running that defense to George Seifert. Stick to the things that you do best and delegate everything else. There were just so many levels to the man's genius.
sweet34

Pleasanton, CA

#125 Jan 25, 2009
Bears Fan wrote:
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The book Genius indicates that Walsh's philosophy was to be the aggressor, formed from his boxing background. So, his team's quick strike ability and ability to score first was rooted in this philosophy. But I must respectfully disagree. His teams were all about ball control. His teams had thousand yard rushers, who were also adept at handling the swing pass. The chains were always moving. Most teams end up in 3rd and long situations while his teams end up in shorter 3rd and 2, 3rd and 1 situations. Next thing you know, the opposing team is backed up against its goal line and the opposing defense is tired because it's been on the field for five minutes.
His quarterbacks rarely threw interceptions, but they more than game managers. They made plays. Cardinal rule of team sports is to make the other team beat you. He understood that and made that the foundation of his offense, but note how that did not limit him the way it limits Baltimore, for example. A lot of present day coaches have [email protected]@rdized this philosophy into today's unimaginative don't lose proposition. It must have irked Walsh to see Dilfer in a 49er uniform.
Anyway, jumping out to lead now puts the opposing team into passing mode. Don't have to worry about the running game anymore. Walsh's defense now has its ears pinned to rush the quarterback. Of course, he was smart enough to delegate the task of running that defense to George Seifert. Stick to the things that you do best and delegate everything else. There were just so many levels to the man's genius.
I agree with almost all you say.

I loathe the 9'ers as much as i love the Bears. The 9'ers play within miles of my backyard. I know them well. Have watch them for too many years to count.

They did score quickly. Yes they also could control the ball with short passing game and a decent runners they had.

But, I guess it is just one's interpretation of of how many plays does "scoring quickly" imply.

My feeling is we are talking almost the same, however, in general, the 9'ers would scored early, as you said,
usually 14 points no problem in the first QTR.

All I was saying is that early in the game, it allows the other team to regroup. And that basically was how other teams hung on when playing the 9'ers during the Montana era especially.
sweet34

Pleasanton, CA

#126 Jan 25, 2009
obviously Ditka and Walsh also have a history together as "coaching opposites".

but you have to love the "MacIntyre and Refrigerator" cat fight they had.

In 1984 we lost championship to them (9'ers), Ditka follows that up by trouncing the Niners the following year and going on to swin the Super Bowl Shuffle.

The MacIntyre move gave birth to the Packer Pancake in 1985. That MNF vs the Packers; is still one of my all time favorite games to replay.

In fact, I am blessed to have all these tapes, especially because it contains most of Sweetness's runs and his "stiff-leg" technigue.

My wish for next few years:
Let's get a Great Offensive Line.
and Beat the Packers everytime.
Give Lovie some "emotion" lessons.

Going to be a fun year next year.

iBelieve.

(11 different seconds in Atlanta - and maybe we are the 9-7 AZ Cardinals of 2008?)
sweet34

Pleasanton, CA

#127 Jan 25, 2009
2009 season I predict will go down as the "season of urgency", while at the same time it is critical for the Bears to move in a new direction and let youth take over soon.

What they acquire this coming off season, and what they do this year in the Draft is important, and critical to the future of the CB's.

I give Angelo, Lovie, Turner, Babich, Brian Urlacher, Tommy Harris, the Wale, Peanut, Vasher, one more year to prove they are worth keeping.

Keep M. Brown, and reward A. Brown.

Do not let Izzy go either.

Let Rod M. shape this line, the talent is there. The coaching was not. Let's see if these changes can be a significant improvement.

We get a D-line rush, and shoot, we're going places.

This last season was weird, but, 9-7, that could have been a few better.

We're not that bad of a team ppl.

“FIRE CHILLY! FIRE CHILLY! ”

Since: Aug 08

Rensselaer

#128 Jan 26, 2009
Monte wrote:
Duz any one notice how many really good recievers there are in the NFL, from University of Michigan?
braylon edwards is the only one that comes to mind. manningham, avant, and breaston were good players in college, but their not big time receivers in the nfl or not yet anyway.
Monte

West Palm Beach, FL

#129 Jan 26, 2009
Toomer and a Smith. Boy, if the Bears had the young Breaston or Avant. One is in the Superbowl.
Kaycee Curt

Frankfort, IL

#130 Jan 27, 2009
Of course, the Bears would have a little more firepower if FOUR receivers who were on their 2006 roster weren't starting for other teams in 2008. Four ex-Bears receivers made the playoffs this year. Where is the evidence that this team is capable of developing receivers?

“Stimulate THIS!”

Since: Aug 08

West Frankfort, IL

#131 Jan 27, 2009
I know the talent levle on the Bears isn't that great, but I've had it with Ron Turner and Bob Babich, but here we are at the end of jan. and nothing has changed so another year with Lovie's Flying Circus.
Monte

West Palm Beach, FL

#132 Jan 27, 2009
Watch...Gruden won't last long on the open market...

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