Orton likely starting QB for 2009 season

There are 176 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Dec 28, 2008, titled Orton likely starting QB for 2009 season. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Love him or hate him, Bears fans, get used to Kyle Orton . After Sunday's season-ending 31-24 loss to the Texans, offensive coordinator Ron Turner said Orton will head into training camp next July as the ...

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armstrong22

La Crosse, WI

#1 Dec 28, 2008
Orton deserves legitimate competition in camp next year. I don't want to see him given the job. He hasn't proven nearly enough yet. He's the second coming maybe a little worse of Erik Kramer. This team NEEDS TO FIND A LEGITIMATE QUARTERBACK AND RECEIVER FOR ONCE, ORTON IS A VERY AVERAGE QB WHO HAS NO DEEP BALL TOUCH OR MOBILITY.
Iknowthatguy

Willowbrook, IL

#2 Dec 28, 2008
Matt Cassel
Gross Rexman

Lenoir, NC

#3 Dec 28, 2008
Terrific. Yet another season without a real NFL-caliber QB.

The Bears wouldn't have it any other way.

Sigh...I guess I can only imagine the Bears one day finding a Matt Ryan of their own. Even a Joe Flacco would do...

But instead, "Kyle is our quarterback." The rest of the League is shaking in their cleats. Is that the right word, "shaking?"
Fazsha

San Ramon, CA

#4 Dec 28, 2008
Please get rid of Orton. I want Rex back.
bobbyw- albuquerque

United States

#5 Dec 28, 2008
Let's face it,.several coaches have to go including Smith and Turner. Changes must be made in the overall defensive schme. Cover 2 is not the answer not with this talent. We need to blitz more, get sacks and hammer people at the point of attack. It'sd simply not happening.With a new head man Babaich could do it. He's aggressive, Smith is not. Turner is not the guy for offensive challenges and Orton certainly is not a NFL qb. He wouldn't make it anywhere. He can't throw long and he's not mobile enough. Let's gow with Hainie and see if that works out. Package rex and Orton and get what we need in the draft. Oh. Maybe Angelo needs a new home too. Before the draft. for heavens sake His picks are no \where to be seen and he sent Berrien packing. Give me a break.
Gross Rexman

Lenoir, NC

#6 Dec 28, 2008
Fazsha wrote:
Please get rid of Orton. I want Rex back.
Stop it. Rex is gone. As will Orton most likely after next season.
gimy

AOL

#7 Dec 28, 2008
i started the season saying kyle sucks...i came around to saying he's pretty good for a few games...then he ended the season sucking. bottom line...he sucks. sorry, he had a GOOD REX like stint where he had alot of yards but if you cannot for the life of you...throw a d3mn ball 50 yards and OCCASIONALLY hit a receiver in stride...you suck. i think, maybe, he did it once all season i watched. EVERY other time it was ridiculously underthrown and unless the wideout made a great play...it was either incomplete or picked off. thats not an nfl starting qb, thats garbage. if kyle is indeed our qb and its crystal clear he has NO talent with a deep ball...then we're always going to be a middle of the pack team with no hope at a superbowl. at least knowing kyle is our starter takes the stress out of hoping the bears will win it all, its obvious they have no chance. time to blow up the team and invest in younger players with pro bowl type talent.
Shawn

Newburyport, MA

#8 Dec 28, 2008
Matt Cassell is far better than Orton, and of course the Bears would never go after him, they're going to get Orton a #1 WR, so that he can throw him 10 yard outs, and overthrow him when they go deep twice a game. This organization sucks...Orton regressed and now they're blaming the ankle?
Luke

Chicago, IL

#9 Dec 28, 2008
All of you haters know Orton was hurt .Its sad that some of you even fail to acknowledge that he was playing well pre-injury and that maybe just MAYBE his ankle injury had something to do with his slippage in play.

Without the injury hes well over 3000 yards and thats with NO wideouts but he came in about 15 yards short of 3000 and thats when some of you swore we wouldnt even be able to get a 1st down. His top wideout is a converted defensive back in his first year at the position and and the wideout they faced today had more catches and yards this season then all of our wideouts combined .

If nothing else he's earned a shot with more weapons around him. But we just cant keep changing Qb's every year.People think just because someone runs a fly pattern that hes open. Just look at the other team like today Johnson was open while our receivers had a guy draped over them on every play .Just look around the league and you see Qb's put the ball all over the place and the expectation is to give the wideouts a chance to go get it and then you see the Bears receivers and the fans want the QB to put the ball between the numbers when they cant even get seperations . Its amazing really I want the bears to go long too but the deep ball is about extreme confidence between the QB and the receiver and who exactly is Orton supposed to have this confidence in ? the converted DB ?

Lets get more weapons and get Hester into minicamp with Kyle and lets work on that deep ball.
Luke

Chicago, IL

#10 Dec 28, 2008
Shawn wrote:
Matt Cassell is far better than Orton, and of course the Bears would never go after him, they're going to get Orton a #1 WR, so that he can throw him 10 yard outs, and overthrow him when they go deep twice a game. This organization sucks...Orton regressed and now they're blaming the ankle?
Cassell is playing for the Patriots and is a system QB .You didnt even know who he was in August now all of sudden hes can perform in any system ? I bet you are willing to drop a double digit signing bonus to find out too lol insanity ......
Neckbeard hater

Palatine, IL

#11 Dec 28, 2008
Orton's pass to Hester (34 yards) was the only pass he completed all year in the air over 30 yards. Important distinction (in the air) the Bears were the only team in the entire NFL not to have done so. So OrtonBomb finally did it in the last game and it was still underthrown. He sucks!! system QB?Cassell has a better arm he is more mobile and athletic. Dont worry Luke the Bear are far to cheap to make a move that smart
CubzDude420

Highland, IN

#12 Dec 28, 2008
Luke wrote:
All of you haters know Orton was hurt .Its sad that some of you even fail to acknowledge that he was playing well pre-injury and that maybe just MAYBE his ankle injury had something to do with his slippage in play.
Without the injury hes well over 3000 yards and thats with NO wideouts but he came in about 15 yards short of 3000 and thats when some of you swore we wouldnt even be able to get a 1st down. His top wideout is a converted defensive back in his first year at the position and and the wideout they faced today had more catches and yards this season then all of our wideouts combined .
If nothing else he's earned a shot with more weapons around him. But we just cant keep changing Qb's every year.People think just because someone runs a fly pattern that hes open. Just look at the other team like today Johnson was open while our receivers had a guy draped over them on every play .Just look around the league and you see Qb's put the ball all over the place and the expectation is to give the wideouts a chance to go get it and then you see the Bears receivers and the fans want the QB to put the ball between the numbers when they cant even get seperations . Its amazing really I want the bears to go long too but the deep ball is about extreme confidence between the QB and the receiver and who exactly is Orton supposed to have this confidence in ? the converted DB ?
Lets get more weapons and get Hester into minicamp with Kyle and lets work on that deep ball.
Go back to Purdue, dork. Rex Rules.
Go bacl
Luke

Chicago, IL

#13 Dec 28, 2008
Neckbeard hater wrote:
Orton's pass to Hester (34 yards) was the only pass he completed all year in the air over 30 yards. Important distinction (in the air) the Bears were the only team in the entire NFL not to have done so. So OrtonBomb finally did it in the last game and it was still underthrown. He sucks!! system QB?Cassell has a better arm he is more mobile and athletic. Dont worry Luke the Bear are far to cheap to make a move that smart
Since when was the 30+ yard pass a big part of the Bears offense ? Some of you are delusional you come up with your little scenarios at home and then expect the team to play them out for you.

We knew going in that the receiver Corps was garbage and that the vertical attack was never in the cards . We wanted to use Hester that way but knew he would need time to develop as a receiver .

Its amazing that some of you dont realize that although we have a QB that threw for nearly 3000 that none of his receivers would even be a top 3 receiver on another team. You want more catches for over 30 yards when you cant even get them to catch the ones under 10 consistently. Unless you really are expecting Orton to hit Olsen or Clark 30 yards down the field your are being ridiculous .

I recall Hester and Davis running those deep ins early in the season and flat out not catching the ball. You only get a certain amount of opportunities to go downfield especially when its not a big part of your offense.I recall Orton missing on a few of those passes as well but it never clicked because it wasnt a key part of our offense.

If our defense and special teams was as good as 2006 it wouldnt be a worry because we were gonna get plenty of possessions but they are not so you just cant take those chances as much as we used too to find that rhythm.because if you miss it the opposing offense was able to drive right down the field .

Only Bears fans live in a world where receivers never have to adjust and go get the ball lol . Never have to make a play on the ball and never have to get open the QB is expected to thread the needle every time.

the Texans came out and threw the ball to Johnson 3 straight times today to open the game. Please tell me when a bears receiver has been open like that 3 times in a row in any game this season ?
haha

North Brunswick, NJ

#14 Dec 28, 2008
get Brett Favre!
freejju

Midlothian, VA

#15 Dec 28, 2008
The Bears continue to be content with mediocrity from the quarterback position. For all of the bellyaching over a lack of weapons, I say hogwash. Orton had two pretty good pass catching tight ends, a good pass catching running back, a receiver who frequently got open downfield, and decent pass protection. Granted, the wide receiving corp as a whole isn't anyone's idea of acceptable, let's not pretend Orton is an island unto himself. Ask yourself this, if Schaub and Orton switched sides, do you think he completes those passes downfield to Andre Johnson? Key moment of the game was when the Bears scored to make it 17-21 and stopped the Texans in short order to get the ball back, Orton misfires on three consecutive passes to open receivers and the Bears lose whatever momentum they had going for them. From there, Houston puts them in their rear view mirror.

But I guess we should put all of the blame on the defense(which finished in the upper middle pack in total yards allowed, while the offense once again finished toward the bottom, only above sad-sack teams like St. Louis, Seattle, Detroit, Oakland, Cleveland and Cincinatti).
Larry

Olympia Fields, IL

#16 Dec 28, 2008
Listen dude, Orton blows period, hurt or not Orton being hurt does not excuse the fact that he locks down on one reciever the Bears threw only one pass to a reciever over thiry five yards and that was today, Orton is terrible its time for guys like you to face obvious facts.
Luke wrote:
All of you haters know Orton was hurt .Its sad that some of you even fail to acknowledge that he was playing well pre-injury and that maybe just MAYBE his ankle injury had something to do with his slippage in play.
Without the injury hes well over 3000 yards and thats with NO wideouts but he came in about 15 yards short of 3000 and thats when some of you swore we wouldnt even be able to get a 1st down. His top wideout is a converted defensive back in his first year at the position and and the wideout they faced today had more catches and yards this season then all of our wideouts combined .
If nothing else he's earned a shot with more weapons around him. But we just cant keep changing Qb's every year.People think just because someone runs a fly pattern that hes open. Just look at the other team like today Johnson was open while our receivers had a guy draped over them on every play .Just look around the league and you see Qb's put the ball all over the place and the expectation is to give the wideouts a chance to go get it and then you see the Bears receivers and the fans want the QB to put the ball between the numbers when they cant even get seperations . Its amazing really I want the bears to go long too but the deep ball is about extreme confidence between the QB and the receiver and who exactly is Orton supposed to have this confidence in ? the converted DB ?
Lets get more weapons and get Hester into minicamp with Kyle and lets work on that deep ball.
bears4life

Hermosillo, Mexico

#17 Dec 28, 2008
i know rex is out but the only thing i know is

grossman first full season
super bowl

orton first full season
9-7 just because lions are 0-16

when we need orton he throw 3 yards passes, and if you cant play because youre hurt dont play, thats not a excuse.

i know grossman is out but orton still SUCKS!!

i would love to see mcnabb with this horrendous O-Line, at least he can move around and make plays
Dirk

Lake Zurich, IL

#18 Dec 29, 2008
This is Orton's SECOND full season.

He was far and away the worst QB in the NFL in 2005 when he was the starter, he was unGodly horrendous. This year, he was below average, sub-par, a few shades below mediocre, etc.

I'm mad enough that he will very likely be starting here next year, but what can you do with inept management who doesn't understand offense.

How he has any supporters left just makes me slightly embarrassed of those Bear fans. Come on now, we need to be smarter than that. Don't eat the media BS, look at the facts, use common sense. Orton is a poor NFL qb, end of story.
John Anthony

United States

#19 Dec 29, 2008
Alright, so Orton is the man in 2009? No way the Bears make the playoffs in 2009. No way Orton plays the whole year in 2009.
f88k orton

Salt Lake City, UT

#20 Dec 29, 2008
Orton, hey thats what most Bears fans want, meat and potatoes football. Rex needs to get singed to a football team that lives,breaths and dies drama. And were else could he go? I say Dallas dammit, you got big time receivers that fight for the ball, Rex has the arm to get the ball real deep and thats all you need.

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