Bears look good but can't afford to g...

Bears look good but can't afford to get cocky

There are 91 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Sep 29, 2008, titled Bears look good but can't afford to get cocky. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

In 25 words or less, it would be easy to form a valid argument that the Bears are three plays away from being 4-0. Take away Greg Olsen 's two fumbles and the Bears beat Carolina.

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Bears Fan Unite

Crystal Lake, IL

#1 Sep 30, 2008
Look, this Rex vs Orton thing has really gotten out of hand. It is not about Rex vs Orton. It is about the bears winning and returning to the Superbowl regardless of who the QB is!

I must say that I am a Rex fan, but I am first and foremost a Bears fan. This Rex and Orton battle have almost divided bears fan down the middle and it is not healthy for the fan-dom.

I don't think Rex fans hate Orton because I certainly don't. I cheered for him in the first half with beautiful throws and booed him in the second half for all of his mistakes.

It's just that Orton's fan are hypocritical and blind if they say that Orton is doing well because he is not. He's making the same mistakes Grossman is making. If you are going to boo Rex for every bad interception, then you can't defend Orton for his interceptions. You can't say that receivers are dropping the ball for Orton and that you feel sorry for Orton's "perfect pass". Guess what? Welcome to Grossman's world last year. If Benard Berrian catch that wide open pass in the Cowboys game last year down the left sideline or if hester would have caught that wide open bomb against the giants last year, we probably wouldn't have an Orton vs Rex battle this year (Not to mention Giants won't be superbowl champs).

Rex fans just want the truth and facts and for fans to watch the game and not the person. A bad throw is a bad throw. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

With that said, is kyle improving game by game? Yes he is, that's why we are staying with him. Grossman has his chances here and could not "wow" the coaches. But whoever says Grossman should be traded or cut is out of their mind. With our O-line, we are going to need 2 maybe 3 QB to finish the season. Would you rather have a rookie in there or a vet who do not know the playbook with the kind of defense we have?

I say let's root for the bears and squash the QB controversy. Support Orton while he is in there and support Rex if he is in there. The QB already has too many things to think about on and off the field. Maybe the fans can help them think about one less thing by supporting them and motivating them.
Bearsnut

Dane, WI

#2 Sep 30, 2008
Well I would say you said a mouth full! And by God your right and I said that all along ,you Are a true Bears Fan and stay with your team GOOD or BAD! I do and I've watched from the 60's
Rich W

Madison, WI

#3 Sep 30, 2008
Bears Fan Unite wrote:
Look, this Rex vs Orton thing has really gotten out of hand. It is not about Rex vs Orton. It is about the bears winning and returning to the Superbowl regardless of who the QB is!
I must say that I am a Rex fan, but I am first and foremost a Bears fan. This Rex and Orton battle have almost divided bears fan down the middle and it is not healthy for the fan-dom.
I don't think Rex fans hate Orton because I certainly don't. I cheered for him in the first half with beautiful throws and booed him in the second half for all of his mistakes.
It's just that Orton's fan are hypocritical and blind if they say that Orton is doing well because he is not. He's making the same mistakes Grossman is making. If you are going to boo Rex for every bad interception, then you can't defend Orton for his interceptions. You can't say that receivers are dropping the ball for Orton and that you feel sorry for Orton's "perfect pass". Guess what? Welcome to Grossman's world last year. If Benard Berrian catch that wide open pass in the Cowboys game last year down the left sideline or if hester would have caught that wide open bomb against the giants last year, we probably wouldn't have an Orton vs Rex battle this year (Not to mention Giants won't be superbowl champs).
Rex fans just want the truth and facts and for fans to watch the game and not the person. A bad throw is a bad throw. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
With that said, is kyle improving game by game? Yes he is, that's why we are staying with him. Grossman has his chances here and could not "wow" the coaches. But whoever says Grossman should be traded or cut is out of their mind. With our O-line, we are going to need 2 maybe 3 QB to finish the season. Would you rather have a rookie in there or a vet who do not know the playbook with the kind of defense we have?
I say let's root for the bears and squash the QB controversy. Support Orton while he is in there and support Rex if he is in there. The QB already has too many things to think about on and off the field. Maybe the fans can help them think about one less thing by supporting them and motivating them.
I am a Orton fan and you are a Grossman fan but one thing we both are it appeaars is BEAR fans first.

I am sick of this constant stream of talk as to which is worse Orton or Grossman. This is a team game and the team will win or lose as a team.

The BEARS won the division with both QB's how many teams have two QB's that can say that?

I am a BEAR fan in Pecker land and all I have heard for years is "you bear fans don't know what a QB looks like unless he is shredding your defense."

Orton and Rodgers came into the league the same year. I want the BEARS to beat the Peckers and second I would love to see Orton turn out better than Rodgers.

I know it is a bit selfish on my part but I want Orton to be succesful so I can get a little pay back. Still I would rather think we have two decent QB's instead of having two very bad
QB's.

First and always it is the team. GO BEARS.
PCK

Sparta, WI

#4 Sep 30, 2008
When Lance Briggs said to Andrea Kramer after the game THAT WE SHOULD BE 4-0 RIGHT NOW, he followed that sentence with BUT WE ARE TWO AND TWO, AND DESERVEDLY SO. That second sentence is this very telling, and it is interesting that no one has mentioned that part. It is the most mature thing that I have ever heard him say. I enjoy having the old Lance back, talking in general, and sounding somewhat humbled.
As for Madison Rich W saying it is a little bit selfish to want to see Orton succeed so he can enjoy a little payback to the abuse he has received from Packer fans, it is not selfish at all. Maybe a little vindictive, but thatís okay.
George

Carol Stream, IL

#5 Sep 30, 2008
I am a fan of the Chicago Bears, first. And like I said before, when Grossman did well, I cheered for him. And when he started to free-fall and take the team with him, I booed like it was nobodies business. I favor Orton right ow because he seems more steady and stable than Rex. He's more built like an NFL QB and I like his develop so far this season. But you Rex fans have this to think about. And please be honest with yourself. When Rex was bad, he took the team down and gave us very little chance of winning. And in these first 4 games of this season, Orton has not been sharp, BUT he has not thrown us out of a game.

Let's look back at it:
The Panther's games was won. But, we had two very costly fumbles in that game. Now I won't put the blame solely on Olson, but he takes a lot of it.

The Bucs game:
That game was won as well. BUT... a costly drop early in the game, missed FG, another costly drop on 3rd, and a foolish penalty in OT. The TEAM definitely shares the blame for that one.

All I ask is that you Rex fans give Orton a break. It's clearly his turn behind center. Your Orton-bashing is not going to get Rex in there anytime soon. And by putting extra emphasis on each little mistake that makes is just ridiculous. Rex was booed constantly playing bad and not getting wins. And if Orton starts losing games and throwing us out of them, trust me, he will be booed as well. So right now, let's just watch the games. And honestly, if Rex was behind center right now with the exact same numbers and plays, I would not be booing him.

But if "if" was "fifth", we'd all be drunk, right?

GO BEARS!!!! 2008 NFC NORTH CHAMPIONS!!!
SAH

Bradenton, FL

#6 Sep 30, 2008
If anyone here in this love fest thinks for one second that if for some reason Grossman gets on the field that Orton fans won't boo him if he has one quarter like Orton has had halves, they are fooling themselves.

As human beings nobody should ever want anybody to get hurt and as Bear fans nobody should ever want to see any player mess up and the Bears lose. I certainly don't want either to happen to Orton. But that wasn't the case with Orton fans when Grossman or Griese were on the field. They all wrote in here that they hoped they would get hurt and always had their fingers crossed during games that they started that the Bears would lose. And everyone knows that is a fact.

The difference between Orton fans and and real Bear fans is that real Bear fans have more class, and that will never change. Just like Republicans who wanted to give our our troops the chance to be victorious in Iraq have more class than Democrats who always wanted them to lose.



George

Carol Stream, IL

#7 Sep 30, 2008
Now...

With that out of the way, who's ready to talk about next week? Does anyone want to talk about next week?

Well, my analysis so far:
The Lions defense is extra soft. We should be able to run for over 200 yds easy and couple of TDs. I'm looking for Kyle to finally have a stand out day. If he comes out like he did in the first half of the Eagles games and limits his turnovers, he going to have a really good game. Though they've had a week to rest, the Bears are going into this game with a lot of momentum and intensity. Kitna should see a lot of our defense in his face. We should get at least 3 turnovers. I predict 34-20.

GO BEARS!!! THE DIVISION IS OURS!!!!
George

Carol Stream, IL

#8 Sep 30, 2008
SAH wrote:
If anyone here in this love fest thinks for one second that if for some reason Grossman gets on the field that Orton fans won't boo him if he has one quarter like Orton has had halves, they are fooling themselves.
As human beings nobody should ever want anybody to get hurt and as Bear fans nobody should ever want to see any player mess up and the Bears lose. I certainly don't want either to happen to Orton. But that wasn't the case with Orton fans when Grossman or Griese were on the field. They all wrote in here that they hoped they would get hurt and always had their fingers crossed during games that they started that the Bears would lose. And everyone knows that is a fact.
The difference between Orton fans and and real Bear fans is that real Bear fans have more class, and that will never change. Just like Republicans who wanted to give our our troops the chance to be victorious in Iraq have more class than Democrats who always wanted them to lose.
I just started posting on here this season and if anyone was wishing that someone get hurt, then that's just out right wrong. I agree with you on that one. There's no class in that.

But please leave the politics for another post. if you look to the right side of the page, I'm sure you'll find a post that you can post all of your political views in. This is Bear country buddy. Appreciated

GO BEARS!!! 2008 NFC NORTH CHAMPIONS!!!
PCK

Sparta, WI

#9 Sep 30, 2008
Bears Fan Unite wrote:
If Benard Berrian catch that wide open pass in the Cowboys game last year down the left sideline or if hester would have caught that wide open bomb against the giants last year, we probably wouldn't have an Orton vs Rex battle this year (Not to mention Giants won't be superbowl champs).
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Wow. Do I know you? Last Sunday I said the exact same thing to a friend about Hester dropping that sure 70 yard touchdown pass against the Giants last year, and how it would have sealed that game and changed the Giants fate too. However, I was talking about Hesters ability, or lack thereof, as a receiver. Devon proved it again Sunday when he could not adjust his route by jumping up for the ball on that play early in the game. He is okay at catching a ball that is coming at him while he is standing still, but not very good at running under a pass in the air. Look at the slants he does catch. His feet are usually planted when the ball arrives, he catches it, and then starts to run. Believe me, I wish it were different, but its not.
grimm reaper

Chicago, IL

#10 Sep 30, 2008
Lucky, lucky, lucky! Cause when it comes to a QB they are sucky, sucky, sucky!
krebs

Laurel, MD

#11 Sep 30, 2008
What a massive burn on the division if the Bears win it. Or should I say when.
Dan

Elmhurst, IL

#12 Sep 30, 2008
Hey Dave,

Were you watching the same game I was? They looked pathetic. the only reason they won is because Westbrook was not playing and the Eagles passing game choked worse than the Bears.

They're lucky the Eagles didn't come to play.. Who cares though, the NFC central division looks like a bunch of puss's anyway.

Since: Jul 08

Windsor, Ontario

#13 Sep 30, 2008
Dan wrote:
Hey Dave,
Were you watching the same game I was? They looked pathetic. the only reason they won is because Westbrook was not playing and the Eagles passing game choked worse than the Bears.
They're lucky the Eagles didn't come to play.. Who cares though, the NFC central division looks like a bunch of puss's anyway.
Hey Dan
What game were YOU watching? Our offence clicked in the first half, the defence was awesome all the way through and special teams - especially Maynard- looked extra sharp.
I would agree that they got lucky and benefited from some poor play calling by the Eagles coaches, but that's it.
Maybe you should just concentrate on the dawg-assed Lions post page - if they were good enough to even have one!
GO BEARS, TEAR 'EM UP!!!
REM

Canton, IL

#14 Sep 30, 2008
The Bears should probably be 3-1, not 4-0, since they were pretty fortunate to win the Eagles game. But we're 2-2 and time to look ahead to next week. This matchup with the Lions has all the makings of a trap game: A team desperate for their first win, an extra week of rest and preparation, playing at home, and trying to start fresh after finally dumping Millen. On the other side, the Bears are a little beaten up and have to travel to a dome where they've had problems. Both Bears corners are banged up, and the 2 big receivers are the Lions' only strength. The game plan MUST be to run the ball 40+ times, giving Kevin Jones at least 15 carries. That will be the best way to control the game and keep their receivers off the field. There's no reason that the Lions should be able to stop the Bears running game; mix in some reverses to Hester and Davis as well. When they start loading the box, hit some deep throws which should be wide open. Avoid turnovers and don't get into a pass catching contest vs. Roy Williams and Calvin Johnson. That should be the formula for victory.
Philo

Palmetto, FL

#15 Sep 30, 2008
I love how Haugh can blame a loss on two Olsen fumbles, but ignores that Orton's pick six gave up a TD that gives the Bucs 7 points. The pick six doesn't happen, the Bears win by 7 in regulation.

Olsen's two fumbles came out to only a FG. Yes, we win in regulation if the Bucs don't get the fumble and march down the field, but Orton's pick six didn't even require their O getting on the field.
George

Carol Stream, IL

#16 Sep 30, 2008
Philo wrote:
I love how Haugh can blame a loss on two Olsen fumbles, but ignores that Orton's pick six gave up a TD that gives the Bucs 7 points. The pick six doesn't happen, the Bears win by 7 in regulation.
Olsen's two fumbles came out to only a FG. Yes, we win in regulation if the Bucs don't get the fumble and march down the field, but Orton's pick six didn't even require their O getting on the field.
Two different games buddy.

GO BEARS!!! 2008 NFC NORTH CHAMPIONS!!!
1bearsfan

United States

#17 Sep 30, 2008
Hello Fellow bear Fans:I have been a Die Hard Bear fan for 37 years! Personally I will support whoever is playing on the field.I want the team to succeed & win.Fan support makes a big difference & helps.I did like Rex's big play ability,it was exciting to watch.We havent had many Q.B's in Chicago with that ability.Now Orton has his chance to play & prove himself.I fully support Orton,he has good pocket presence.I believe he has ability & will improve as the season wears on as will the Offense.I always believe in my Bears & always will support them,regardless of the circumstances.Every week I get excited to see them play.Every year,heck every week is a new chance & opportunity! I admit I was very disappointed in all the trash talk towards the Bears before this Eagles game.The Bears could have easily been 3-0.They played 2 of 3 on the road,plus we played very good teams! Our mistakes were easily correctable,& we were only 1 game back in the division.We had also shown the ability to play with these good teams.I am proud to be a Bear fan.I am proud of the Bears for the win sunday,now we are tied for 1st place in our division.Thanks to all the great Bear fans who have continued to support our Bears,through the good & the bad.Bear fans are the best fans in sports!! Keep up the support for our Monsters Of The Midway,as we win our division & get back to the play offs.I predict the Bears win 24-13 over Detroit.Matt Forte should have a big game.Take Care Everyone. God Bless! BEAR DOWN!! GO BEARS!!!
Luke

Des Plaines, IL

#18 Sep 30, 2008
Philo wrote:
I love how Haugh can blame a loss on two Olsen fumbles, but ignores that Orton's pick six gave up a TD that gives the Bucs 7 points. The pick six doesn't happen, the Bears win by 7 in regulation.
Olsen's two fumbles came out to only a FG. Yes, we win in regulation if the Bucs don't get the fumble and march down the field, but Orton's pick six didn't even require their O getting on the field.
Its not always just the turnover but when they occur that the issue .One came when the Bears had a chance to really put the Bucks in a hole and had momentum and the other came when they were trying to stop momentum from swinging to the Bucs.
EBF

Cicero, IL

#19 Sep 30, 2008
Rex or Kyle. Kyle or Rex.And the winner is...Rex! The only reason he looked so bad when he sucked was because he looked so good when he didn't. Defense and special teams weren't the only reason Chicago won the NFC Championship in 06. Thomas Jones,the o-line and some big throws from Rex sealed the deal. Did he make me sick somedays? Yes. So does Kyle. When Orton leads us to a Bowl,the two young passers will be on equal footing. Hey Boo-Birds:Would you spew so much hatred towards Rex if he was your nephew...or son?
Luke

Des Plaines, IL

#20 Sep 30, 2008
By the end of this year Orton will be better than Rex in every way possible and thats without receivers or a top notch return game.

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