5 paths happily not taken by the Bears

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There is a Garth Brooks song about thanking God for unanswered prayers. Though syrupy, the message about being careful what you wish for sticks well enough to apply in all walks of life, even the NFL .
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Bearfanforlife

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#1
Nov 1, 2008
 
You are finding your stride Dave!!! You really seem to have the "pulse" of this team now.

Can I add a 5-A?

5A- Make the defense more "Adaptable". When conventional rushing schemes ain't working, send an extra man to the attack. the Bears need to take the wraps off the "defense", like they have done, to the offense.

Great Job!
Donobear

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#2
Nov 1, 2008
 
Just how can you prove that any of these decisions were the right moves? Any different decision in any of these examples may have resulted in a 5-2 record or any other result. There is no way of knowing.
Toby

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#3
Nov 1, 2008
 
Booker is NOT dependable unless you depend on him to consistently drop the football.
maria

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#4
Nov 1, 2008
 
yes, and the air you breathe might have pollutants in it??
are you looking for 100% certainty?
you're on the wrong planet, the guy wrote an insightful and correct column, don't look into the chaos theory for everything. go bears!!
Donobear wrote:
Just how can you prove that any of these decisions were the right moves? Any different decision in any of these examples may have resulted in a 5-2 record or any other result. There is no way of knowing.

“Stimulate THIS!”

Since: Aug 08

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#5
Nov 1, 2008
 
David, good piece. I knew this would be Orton's time and am so happy that he has NOT wasted his chance like No.8 did. To all those Grossman "YES" men still out there, you can cheer on your boy next year---in another uniform!!!! Grossman is even a bad teammate. He never is in QB discussions and the little punk is brooding on the sideline feeling sorry for himself.
Papa B

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#6
Nov 1, 2008
 
Grossman was the biggest trainwreck since Mike Tomczak-Jim Harbaugh-Peter Tom Willis-Will Furrer-Steve Walsh-Dave Kreig-Rick Mirer-Steve Stenstrom-Moses Moreno-Shane Matthews-Cade McNown-Henry Burris-Kordell Stewart!
g man

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#7
Nov 1, 2008
 
Does everyone on this board really believe Kyle Orton is our pass to the promise land? I dont think we have any more chance of winning a super bowl with a Kyle led team than with Grossman. And by the way does anyone besides me worry that the old reliable Bears defense seems to be non existent. I dont see it. We are getting way too excited about a decent start to this season as far as I am concerned.
Mike

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#8
Nov 1, 2008
 
Good observations on all counts except one, David. Can't agree with the Brown decision. It was pathetic watching him on Peterson's touchdown run in the Minnesota game. He is consistently late to the ball, also. While I might agree that his emotional and on-the-field coaching value might remain high, he sure screwed up on the last pass play of the Atlanta game. I think he is a great guy and will make an awesome coach in the near future, but his presently playing value has diminished greatly. We need another quick, hard-hitting, smart safety fast -- but, of course, nearly everyone does!
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#9
Nov 1, 2008
 
Mike Brown is better than the Adam Archuleta abortion.
JBS

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#10
Nov 1, 2008
 
Is the season over? Here I thought we only half done, yet guys like Bruno here have already decided that Orton is going to lead the Bears to the Super Bowl, apparently. Just for some perspective on what seven games actually mean for a QB's future, I would direct you to look up articles and statistics concerning Rex Grossman circa October 2006. How'd that all turn out? But wait, a football genius like you would already know the answer to that, right? And, as far "QB discussions," I would think that you'd want a QB as "bad as Rex" to be as far from the huddle as possible, wouldn't you?
So IL Bruno wrote:
David, good piece. I knew this would be Orton's time and am so happy that he has NOT wasted his chance like No.8 did. To all those Grossman "YES" men still out there, you can cheer on your boy next year---in another uniform!!!! Grossman is even a bad teammate. He never is in QB discussions and the little punk is brooding on the sideline feeling sorry for himself.
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#11
Nov 1, 2008
 
Kudos to management for not bringing in a veteran QB or drafting a QB in the 1st round as many thought they should have. They got the tackle and RB they needed and their undrafted QB may not turn into a Matt Ryan, but he's as good as anyone they could have drafted at their slot in the first round. Also for not freaking out on the WR position even though Berrian went to the Vikes.
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Nov 1, 2008
 
Mike wrote:
Good observations on all counts except one, David. Can't agree with the Brown decision. It was pathetic watching him on Peterson's touchdown run in the Minnesota game.
Peterson makes most of the safeties in the league look back. I agree that then 2008 Mike Brown has not been the same old one. But the Peterson play does not prove anything. Do you remember Matt Forte outrunning Bob Sanders? Does that mean Bob Sanders is a pathetic safety? No... it just means Forte is special running back.
Zac

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#13
Nov 1, 2008
 
Sorry but Ron Turner has little to do with the offense's success.

The Bears STILL run a ridiculously high amount of toss sweeps even though they consistently DO NOT work (we don't have the personel on the line to be successful), and a staggering number of plays still incorporate our receivers running routes in the same level of the field. The ONLY thing Turner has done that has made this offense successful is to allow Orton to call many of the plays, and his ability to audible at the line of scrimmage. There's a noticeable difference when we run the no huddle (vs. Turner's crap), and this represents Orton's biggest asset: his ability to disect the game. Then throw in the fact that Orton MAKES receivers the open (by making pinpoint throws), rather than the Grossman method of "I'll only throw it when your wide open", and you have the primary reasons for the offense's success. Having Forte hasn't hurt either.

The reality is Turner should have been fired last year after he left both qbs out to dry (the amount of unprotected 5-7 drops he incorporated was ridiculous). I'm not so sure Lovie's the best man for the job either (his inability to manage games has already cost us 3 games).
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#14
Nov 1, 2008
 
Mike wrote:
Good observations on all counts except one, David. Can't agree with the Brown decision. It was pathetic watching him on Peterson's touchdown run in the Minnesota game. He is consistently late to the ball, also. While I might agree that his emotional and on-the-field coaching value might remain high, he sure screwed up on the last pass play of the Atlanta game. I think he is a great guy and will make an awesome coach in the near future, but his presently playing value has diminished greatly. We need another quick, hard-hitting, smart safety fast -- but, of course, nearly everyone does!
That wasn't his fault. The line of scrimmage was Payne's responsibility and he flat out whiffed on an open tackle. Peterson should have been tackled at the line of scrimmage.

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Nov 1, 2008
 
Papa B wrote:
Grossman was the biggest trainwreck since Mike Tomczak-Jim Harbaugh-Peter Tom Willis-Will Furrer-Steve Walsh-Dave Kreig-Rick Mirer-Steve Stenstrom-Moses Moreno-Shane Matthews-Cade McNown-Henry Burris-Kordell Stewart!
You forgot Chris Chandler, Jim Miller, Jonathon Quinn, Erik Kramer, Steve Hutchinson and Jeff George (suited up never played)

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Nov 1, 2008
 
JBS wrote:
Is the season over? Here I thought we only half done, yet guys like Bruno here have already decided that Orton is going to lead the Bears to the Super Bowl, apparently. Just for some perspective on what seven games actually mean for a QB's future, I would direct you to look up articles and statistics concerning Rex Grossman circa October 2006. How'd that all turn out? But wait, a football genius like you would already know the answer to that, right? And, as far "QB discussions," I would think that you'd want a QB as "bad as Rex" to be as far from the huddle as possible, wouldn't you?
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What are you, the little guy's agent or best friend or aunt? As Huey Lewis sang in the 80's, "BAD IS BAD."

I'm not saying Orton is taking us anywhere just yet, but he has shown, slow, steady improvement and is NOT prone to the 3.8% passer rating game that the little guy wallowed in.

Long live TALL QB's!
EBF

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#17
Nov 1, 2008
 
The fact that the Bears are 4-3, tied for 1st place, and fighting to get better is encouraging and welcome, but I just can't shake the visions of what happened in 83, 84, and 85, when I witnessed the phenomenon of a team that became so dominant opposing quaterbacks feared taking the field. Yes, those days are gone, and this current team is an inspiration to Bears fans who have been miserable since the 06 SuperBowl, but Chicago will never forget how powerful Ditka's team was, and hopefully the spirit of that era will flow into the current squad.
P.S. Booker will be in many positions to make game-saving catches as this hot season rolls on. He better not drop 'em.
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#18
Nov 1, 2008
 
Uh, as far as I remember, Kramer and Miller were pretty decent at qb. They should definetly NOT be listed along with the rest of the qb garabge listed along. lol
So IL Bruno wrote:
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You forgot Chris Chandler, Jim Miller, Jonathon Quinn, Erik Kramer, Steve Hutchinson and Jeff George (suited up never played)
Humbled

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#19
Nov 1, 2008
 
I too was a die-hard Grossman supporter. I never thought of Rex as t e second coming, but a dynamic football player that could force a defense to protect against the long ball. Kyle has impressed me this year by making the throws he didn't seem to know how to make in his rookie season. Orton was one of my favorites in the draft coming out of Purdue, and he now reminds me of the QB I saw while he was in college.
Brian in HB Ca

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Nov 1, 2008
 
Papa B wrote:
<quoted text> Grossman was the biggest trainwreck since Mike Tomczak-Jim Harbaugh-Peter Tom Willis-Will Furrer-Steve Walsh-Dave Kreig-Rick Mirer-Steve Stenstrom-Moses Moreno-Shane Matthews-Cade McNown-Henry Burris-Kordell Stewart!
So IL Bruno wrote:
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You forgot Chris Chandler, Jim Miller, Jonathon Quinn, Erik Kramer, Steve Hutchinson and Jeff George (suited up never played)
I don't have a problem with most of these names when talking about trainwrecks but I have a hard time including Jim Harbaugh, Jim Miller and Erik Kramer. Harbaugh did an alright job during the meltdown of the Ditka era and did pretty well when he got into a good system on the Colts. Miller seemed to be doing well when the coaches would let him in between injuries and Kramer has probably been our best QB since McMahon. As it turns out, checking the Bears website, they are some of the top ranked QBs in Bears history which, of course, isn't saying a whole lot. Actually, now that I look at it, Shane Matthews is fourth in the list.

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