Michael Arace commentary: Don't judge...

Michael Arace commentary: Don't judge Holmgren's plan for Brown...

There are 40 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Mar 18, 2010, titled Michael Arace commentary: Don't judge Holmgren's plan for Brown.... In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Mike Holmgren, the new president of the Cleveland Browns, is shaking his constituency with action.

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Jeff

Westerville, OH

#2 Mar 18, 2010
Whatever his plans are I hope they blow-up in his face. Not a Clowns fan so it doesn't really matter.
Rob Crouse

Columbus, OH

#3 Mar 18, 2010
Gee, if they just hadn't hired Holmgren, everything would still be just great...
Get a clue: Holmgren has more knowledge and successful experience than anyone or anything that has been seen in the Browns camp in decades. I wish Quinn good luck; but maybe Holmgren wants somebody who has been a proven leader and can lead the team now, not if and when Quinn develops into a winning quarterback.
We have nothing to lose in trusting Holmgren, because we had nothing when he got here.
Ken

Columbus, OH

#4 Mar 18, 2010
I hate to disagree. You could go into Cleveland and get rid of all kinds of players. Would you be considered a Genius. Cleveland is basically saying we don't want to coach up anyone. If they don't show us anything in 1 year we are going to get rid of them. What quarterback would want to come into that situation? Bad coaching, bad offensive cooridinator, would be my guess as to part of the problems. They signed two quarterbacks that have done nothing in the past 1 1/2 years. One that hasn't shown anything in 7 years. What the Browns are saying is it may take a quarterback 7 years to develop. Holmgren had Seneca for many years and did not use him except when an old quarterback was hurt. Someone explain that? If they just wanted there guys in there then come out and say that. Quit dancing around with double talk. Mangini needs to come up with a different quote for players leaving. "He did everything we asked" (evidently not). he brought in Ratliff as a back up. Why waste that money when you had a back up in Cribbs. I am a season ticket holder and not happy again this year. I am hoping they don't win 5 games this year because my ticket prices will go up.
Ryan

Westerville, OH

#5 Mar 18, 2010
Ken, time to get rid of your tickets Superfan. You are pathetic if you hope they lose so that your ticket prices doesn't go up.
say what

Columbus, OH

#6 Mar 18, 2010
Ken wrote:
I hate to disagree. You could go into Cleveland and get rid of all kinds of players. Would you be considered a Genius. Cleveland is basically saying we don't want to coach up anyone. If they don't show us anything in 1 year we are going to get rid of them. What quarterback would want to come into that situation? Bad coaching, bad offensive cooridinator, would be my guess as to part of the problems. They signed two quarterbacks that have done nothing in the past 1 1/2 years. One that hasn't shown anything in 7 years. What the Browns are saying is it may take a quarterback 7 years to develop. Holmgren had Seneca for many years and did not use him except when an old quarterback was hurt. Someone explain that? If they just wanted there guys in there then come out and say that. Quit dancing around with double talk. Mangini needs to come up with a different quote for players leaving. "He did everything we asked" (evidently not). he brought in Ratliff as a back up. Why waste that money when you had a back up in Cribbs. I am a season ticket holder and not happy again this year. I am hoping they don't win 5 games this year because my ticket prices will go up.
With fans like you, who needs enemies...
If you would rather see your team lose so your ticket prices don't go up, why don't you do us loyal fans a favor and stay home; keep you negativety out of the stadium. You're the type to complain no matter what changes are made. I trust Holmgren's judgement over your sorry ***.
say what

Columbus, OH

#7 Mar 18, 2010
Jeff wrote:
Whatever his plans are I hope they blow-up in his face. Not a Clowns fan so it doesn't really matter.
Thanks for your insightful commentary. You are obviously a genius. pffft
Ken

Columbus, OH

#8 Mar 18, 2010
Ryan wrote:
Ken, time to get rid of your tickets Superfan. You are pathetic if you hope they lose so that your ticket prices doesn't go up.
Why don't you respond to the article. You must be a super fan. Have you enjoyed the last 11 years? Have you counted the quarterbacks that have come and gone? Have you been to any games? Are you into the constant rebuilding? If so you must enjoy the losing.
say what

Columbus, OH

#9 Mar 18, 2010
Ken wrote:
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Why don't you respond to the article. You must be a super fan. Have you enjoyed the last 11 years? Have you counted the quarterbacks that have come and gone? Have you been to any games? Are you into the constant rebuilding? If so you must enjoy the losing.
Why don't YOU respond to the article? We haven't HAD Holmgren for the past 11 years. We haven't had ANYONE with his pedigree. A person doesn't have to go TO the games in order to follow the Browns. Nobody enjoys losing, that's why the owner brought in a proven winner, and all you want to do is condemn the guy before he even gets a chance to implement his strategy.
You seem to imply that because you are a season ticket holder, that you have some special insight. Obviously, you are just a nattering nabob of negativity. Please don't go to anymore games. We don't need your hopeless *** in the seats.
GitRDun

Lucasville, OH

#10 Mar 18, 2010
Everone who thinks Brady Quinn was the answer is wrong, Quinn couldn't hit a open receiver when he had one. I couldn't believe how many times he threw behind open receivers. When he did complete a pass usually the receiver made a nice play. I know he didn't have any star players to throw to, but when guys were wide open he usually threw an incomplete pass. I wish him well in Denver he needs a change of scenery, but there's a reason why he was traded. I just hope the Browns don't trade up and take another Notre Dame quarterback named Clausen. Take Colt McCoy he's your QB of the future..he's a player!
Campo

Wellington, OH

#11 Mar 18, 2010
I agree with all that you said. I'am a little concerned with Delhomme. I never really liked him and thought his success was do more to having a good supporting cast. Right now the Browns dont have that. I've been a die hard browns fan my entire life and it is very nice to see some one like Holmgren come in and not be afraid to shake it up. One thing to Browns fans, we have to be realistic. We wont go to the superbowl next year, but I think most will agree when I say steady improvement will be a welcome site for us. Not to say I dont want the superbowl, I go into every season hopeing for it, but like I said we have to be realistic.
Ken

Columbus, OH

#12 Mar 18, 2010
GitRDun wrote:
Everone who thinks Brady Quinn was the answer is wrong, Quinn couldn't hit a open receiver when he had one. I couldn't believe how many times he threw behind open receivers. When he did complete a pass usually the receiver made a nice play. I know he didn't have any star players to throw to, but when guys were wide open he usually threw an incomplete pass. I wish him well in Denver he needs a change of scenery, but there's a reason why he was traded. I just hope the Browns don't trade up and take another Notre Dame quarterback named Clausen. Take Colt McCoy he's your QB of the future..he's a player!
They should not pick a quarter back until later rounds. Concentrate on defense for the first 2 rounds. Cleveland drafting a quarterback in the first round has always been a disaster in the past decade.
Campo

Wellington, OH

#13 Mar 18, 2010
A real fan comes into every season with hope, not DOUBTS. If all you want to do is be negative then find a new team.
Ken

Columbus, OH

#14 Mar 18, 2010
Campo wrote:
A real fan comes into every season with hope, not DOUBTS. If all you want to do is be negative then find a new team.
I have been very hopeful for the past 10 years. Until we can beat the Bengals (of all teams) the Steelers and the Ravens on a consistent bases there has been little hope. Being just a little competitive will be a most welcome happening. Trust me I want to see them win as much as anybody. Good thing is going to the games you get to see some great players.
TJG

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#15 Mar 18, 2010
Jeff,

If your'e NOT a BROWNS fan than why did you bother to read the article and post anything??? As a non-fan, your opinion DOESN"T matter just like someone who doesn't vote but complains about the government.
goBrowns56

Columbus, OH

#16 Mar 18, 2010
I agree, for the most part. I still think that playing Quinn and bringing in Wallace as backup would have been better, and that you don't just start over with a team that finished the season on a winning streak. Wimbley's trade bothers me, too. Add pieces via free agency and the draft, but don't just tear it all apart when they've been winning.

But we'll see. If Holmgren's Browns win, he's a genius. If they lose, well...
goBrowns56

Columbus, OH

#17 Mar 18, 2010
Jeff wrote:
Whatever his plans are I hope they blow-up in his face. Not a Clowns fan so it doesn't really matter.
You're right, your opinion really doesn't matter. Too bad you chose to post it.
GitRDun

Lucasville, OH

#18 Mar 18, 2010
Ken wrote:
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They should not pick a quarter back until later rounds. Concentrate on defense for the first 2 rounds. Cleveland drafting a quarterback in the first round has always been a disaster in the past decade.
I agree 100%, I guess Holmgren likes Tebow and might make him a project. I personally hope they pick Colt McCoy or the kid from Central Michigan LeFevor in the later rounds if they're available.
Troy brownbacker

Ashland, KY

#19 Mar 18, 2010
GREAT moves, finally Cleveland has a football man in charge. You can put both Quinn and Anderson together and still only have a decent BACKUP at best, period. Go BROWNS ! And oh by the way, I see 9 wins this year.
Steve

United States

#20 Mar 18, 2010
I worry about the Browns putting their chips in the pot and taking a run at Sam Bradford who looked tremendous behind an outstanding line two years ago, but wasn't healthy enough to show us anything behind a less experienced unit. He also put up his completion percentage against Big 12 defenses. They aren't known for their lockdown corners or their ball-hawking safeties.

What I'm saying is that Bradford is a paper tiger. He won't get the same looks in the NFL and he certainly won't have time to wait for people to get open. He'll have to be accurate under diress.

Then you have his durability. Colt McCoy is more of the same, but on a smaller frame.

Jimmy Clausen is a tough read because it's hard to know why the Irish stunk so bad. He might be worth a gamble, but not in the first round.

Tim Tebow is a bust in the making. He's not worth a fourth round pick. The guy isn't big enough or strong enough to be converted to Tight End or H-back and he's not fast enough to be productive. He's a great college player who doesn't have what it takes for the next level.

The Browns probably should have held on to Quinn and seen what he can do. Delhomme is a stupid move. If you want a veteran to come in and provide some leadership, get Jeff Garcia. Delhomme was mediocre at best and is on a downward spiral at an advanced age.
Lou

Aurora, OH

#21 Mar 18, 2010
Josh McDaniels is very successful in his own right. Well I am of the opinion that we should all move on like adults and let the football season and teams take care of themselves.

I wish Brady Quinn, Anderson, the Browns, and the Broncos all success
and encourage all to work hard. The end result won't be known until
the end of 2010. Lets have fun and support our players and teams.

Afterall, they are all getting mucho dollars to perform. Correct?????

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