Reports: Kampman Unhappy With Position Change

Green Bay Packers veteran pass rusher Aaron Kampman has repeatedly declined to discuss being shifted to outside linebackerA from defensive end in the team's new 3-4 scheme,A and reports have surfaced thatA Kampman is not happy with the change.

[GBPfan]

This is a symptom of a larger problem. After 4 years of mostly losing and sitting at home watching the playoffs, few if any, Packer players have any faith in Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy and the decisions they are making. You can't blame the players for this. They are human. It is only natural for this kind of thing to happen. Aaron Kampman remembers what it was like BEFORE TT brought a culture of losing to Green Bay.(Before you mindlessly mention 2007, remember the other 3 years that the Packers averaged 6 wins, and which has now become the acceptable norm.) Only an extremely delusional person would not be skeptical of the current management. Aaron Kampman is simply displaying good manners. Apparently he was taught: "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." Rest assured that he is NOT the only player with doubts.

[eric]

Leave it to :The Fraud to bring up yet again bullshit because he/she has nothing to give.Lets all guess what he is thinking.So if he has a probowl season,is he going to bitch o great swami,knowing of all.Bash Ted because he had nothing and lets throw out his 13 win season as it effects his baseless claim and against his anti Ted bs,oh thats right your back to talking to Packer fans,sorry Fraud,we forgot

[Pack Fan in Sea of Purple]

eric wrote:

Leave it to :The Fraud to bring up yet again bullshit because he/she has nothing to give.Lets all guess what he is thinking.So if he has a probowl season,is he going to bitch o great swami,knowing of all.Bash Ted because he had nothing and lets throw out his 13 win season as it effects his baseless claim and against his anti Ted bs,oh thats right your back to talking to Packer fans,sorry Fraud,we forgot

sheesh...what an a-hole. Your a class act Eric. You defend TT like he's a member of your family or something.

If you want to admit it or not, this news about Kampman is troubling. We are moving around our most effective defensive player, and he's not happy with it. Anyway you want to spin it, this is not good news.

[GBPfan]

eric wrote:

Leave it to :The Fraud to bring up yet again bullshit because he/she has nothing to give.Lets all guess what he is thinking.So if he has a probowl season,is he going to bitch o great swami,knowing of all.Bash Ted because he had nothing and lets throw out his 13 win season as it effects his baseless claim and against his anti Ted bs,oh thats right your back to talking to Packer fans,sorry Fraud,we forgot

How am I a fraud? Because I did something you can't do? Because I acknowledged the truth? TT did get named Executive of the Year by the Sporting News, right? I knew that would impress an idiot like 40, just as it impressed an idiot like you.

Wow! TT got an award from some sports writers -- a bunch of guys that never played sports and only have a job because they can write. We see how stupid those people are every day.

P.S. Hey, moron, I don't have to throw out 2007. Even with it, TT is an established loser and failure as a GM. But you can't accept the truth, can you? Again, nothing you whine and cry about will EVER change the fact that TT is a loser and failure as a GM.

[eric]

and the fact you can only come up with the same tired shit only proves what ive been saying

[eric]

Pack Fan in Sea of Purple wrote:

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sheesh...what an a-hole. Your a class act Eric. You defend TT like he's a member of your family or something.
If you want to admit it or not, this news about Kampman is troubling. We are moving around our most effective defensive player, and he's not happy with it. Anyway you want to spin it, this is not good news.

The man hasn't said directly one way or another.he is holding judgment,if he makes the pro bowl and thrives in this defense,is he going to bitch about it?,if he has an off year,im sure he would as it might effect his payday in Free agency,but,we haven't played yet,he might be a big time pro bowler this year,no one knows. So knock off the bs bashing Ted when nothing has happened yet.You bitch along with your partner in crime how the defense sucks and they did last year,so they get a defensive mind ( capers) he inturn grabs the former Carolina defensive coor. as line coach,Kevin Greene as LB coach and they decide with what we have to change to the 3-4 and you guys still bitch about it.

[eric]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/468643...

[GBPfan]

eric wrote:

<quoted text>The man hasn't said directly one way or another.he is holding judgment,if he makes the pro bowl and thrives in this defense,is he going to bitch about it?,if he has an off year,im sure he would as it might effect his payday in Free agency,but,we haven't played yet,he might be a big time pro bowler this year,no one knows. So knock off the bs bashing Ted when nothing has happened yet.You bitch along with your partner in crime how the defense sucks and they did last year,so they get a defensive mind ( capers) he inturn grabs the former Carolina defensive coor. as line coach,Kevin Greene as LB coach and they decide with what we have to change to the 3-4 and you guys still bitch about it.

Yes, as I said, Kampman is choosing (wisely) not to voice his doubts. But he obviously has them. You go stick your head in the sand if that makes you feel better.

Again, your whining and crying doesn't change the fact that Ted Thompson is a loser and failure as a GM.

[Pack Fan in Sea of Purple]

eric wrote:

<quoted text>The man hasn't said directly one way or another.he is holding judgment,if he makes the pro bowl and thrives in this defense,is he going to bitch about it?,if he has an off year,im sure he would as it might effect his payday in Free agency,but,we haven't played yet,he might be a big time pro bowler this year,no one knows. So knock off the bs bashing Ted when nothing has happened yet.You bitch along with your partner in crime how the defense sucks and they did last year,so they get a defensive mind ( capers) he inturn grabs the former Carolina defensive coor. as line coach,Kevin Greene as LB coach and they decide with what we have to change to the 3-4 and you guys still bitch about it.

What the hell are you talking about?!?! I haven't even posted anything about the defense since last year, when deservedly, I said something needed to be done to improve it. I have not once been critical of the 3-4. I want to see what happens first. All I said is that if this story is true about Kampman being unhappy with the switch, it is a major issue.

Quit being such a jackass, you are no better than the people you that you say are bashing you.

[eric]

and it still doesnt change the fact the only thing you have besides TED sucks is unfounded,Let the season progress and see what happens as you are making assumptions.Yes chose your words wisely,if he has a great year,all is well. and it doenst change the fact we have a very good GMwho took a rebuilt team to the NFC title game in 3 years and the experts all seem to think im right,only you are missing the boat here. The man is learning a system,it doesn't mean he has doubts,it means hes going to wait and see how he fits in it before he commments,what is pissing him off is the attention hes getting with it.Leave it alone and we all will see where we end up,He might suck,He might be the Defensive MVP

[eric]

Nothing makes you happy does it GBP?
Last year the defense gave up late scores in way to many games,their defensive play calls were more then predictable,so we lost alot and of course TED SUCKS. if we kept the same system you would be bitching up a storm and you would actually be right to bitch.
NOW
we switch defensive coordinators,coaches.the system to something the div rivals havent seen as much of,something that good defensive minds like Capers ect thinks will fit our personal better and you still bitch,but, you are bitching about something,no one knows for sure! yes i admire the fact you are upset Kampman is upset and PFISOP is pissed also,but,he never said,it could be implied to a point,but,read the article,hes learning the new system,hes one of 11 players,new terminology.position ect and he is saving his opinion for the proper time,after he plays it.So instead of critisizing the team for changing things up( when they had trouble last year,although injuries were a big part as in every team injuries is a big part),like i said you would complain with the same defense as last year,so the Packers changed up adn you still complain.Let it go,until we see them playit,im sure you will agree,Ted,MM,Dom Capers,Kevin Greene ect know abit more then you,I,or anyone else here.

[Pack Fan in Sea of Purple]

eric wrote:

Nothing makes you happy does it GBP?
Last year the defense gave up late scores in way to many games,their defensive play calls were more then predictable,so we lost alot and of course TED SUCKS. if we kept the same system you would be bitching up a storm and you would actually be right to bitch.
NOW
we switch defensive coordinators,coaches.the system to something the div rivals havent seen as much of,something that good defensive minds like Capers ect thinks will fit our personal better and you still bitch,but, you are bitching about something,no one knows for sure! yes i admire the fact you are upset Kampman is upset and PFISOP is pissed also,but,he never said,it could be implied to a point,but,read the article,hes learning the new system,hes one of 11 players,new terminology.position ect and he is saving his opinion for the proper time,after he plays it.So instead of critisizing the team for changing things up( when they had trouble last year,although injuries were a big part as in every team injuries is a big part),like i said you would complain with the same defense as last year,so the Packers changed up adn you still complain.Let it go,until we see them playit,im sure you will agree,Ted,MM,Dom Capers,Kevin Greene ect know abit more then you,I,or anyone else here.

Eric, you have become the biggest piece of crap on this entire board. Now you are pretending to know what I am thinking, and you're putting words in my mouth...real nice.

The only thing I have said about the Packer's defense in the past 6 months was today, when I said IF this article is true, it is troubling. Why you fly off the handle about something this minor, proves that you feel the same way and are covering it up. You are so invested with TT's legacy, that you can't even comment on a legitimate concern when it comes up.

Get over yourself, you've turned yourself into the low rung on the ladder around here.

[jeremy]

eric wrote:

and it still doesnt change the fact the only thing you have besides TED sucks is unfounded,Let the season progress and see what happens as you are making assumptions.Yes chose your words wisely,if he has a great year,all is well. and it doenst change the fact we have a very good GMwho took a rebuilt team to the NFC title game in 3 years and the experts all seem to think im right,only you are missing the boat here. The man is learning a system,it doesn't mean he has doubts,it means hes going to wait and see how he fits in it before he commments,what is pissing him off is the attention hes getting with it.Leave it alone and we all will see where we end up,He might suck,He might be the Defensive MVP

I think AK is just as good a athlete as Jason Taylor and JT got D-MVP under Dom in Miami, so that is something to think about also.

[normallylikeyell ow]

Whoo! Not sure I want to get in the middle of this. Where's there's smoke there's fire. I actually disagree with the commonly held opinion that our defensive scheme was the problem. We we 13-3 running the same "predictable" defense the year before, only with a full compliment of D tackles and fewer key injuries. Ranked 5th in the league. Got better at the end of previous year too. I think this stems back to Jim Bates and Ted Thompson. Saunders was a Bates guy. Anyway, the success Aaron had in the scheme must be in the back of his mind.

[eric]

Pack Fan in Sea of Purple wrote:

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Eric, you have become the biggest piece of crap on this entire board. Now you are pretending to know what I am thinking, and you're putting words in my mouth...real nice.
The only thing I have said about the Packer's defense in the past 6 months was today, when I said IF this article is true, it is troubling. Why you fly off the handle about something this minor, proves that you feel the same way and are covering it up. You are so invested with TT's legacy, that you can't even comment on a legitimate concern when it comes up.
Get over yourself, you've turned yourself into the low rung on the ladder around here.

im not fling off the handle at all,THats my point with GBP,hes all its Teds fault,Kampmans not happy blah blah blah,there was no one that said either way,im the one that said to lets see how it plays out,I was wrong in that you mentioned that,and for that i am sorry,and if Kampman is pissed ,yes it is troubling,but again,there is no indication,read the article,he is learning a new system,terminology ect and is concerened as he should be,and im sure hes nervous if he has a bad year it will efffect him and his freeagentcy and he should be its his livelyhood,but again,hes not saying ect and the dude is fling with his typical ted sucks bs,because he has nothing.so again im sorry i got the things mixed up,that is my mistake or that you took it that way. WHAT was ment is that you were complaining last year about AR not bringing us back,the defense giving up those points at the end which we all were,now that they changed GBP bitches,if they didnt change he would bitch. so its more him,and im sorry i made it sound completely backward

[eric]

jeremy wrote:

<quoted text>I think AK is just as good a athlete as Jason Taylor and JT got D-MVP under Dom in Miami, so that is something to think about also.

exactly,so why is the guy getting all worked up AK is waiting to see how it goes,how he fits ect.there's no reason to get paranoid about Kampman being unhappy,unless he mentions it

[normallylikeyell ow]

I agree we shouldn't get worked up, so chill out yourself. This is not the first story, so I kind of doubt it's fueled by paranoia. Nobody on the team is talking about it, but it appears to be a poorly kept secret, since it leaked out. All Aaron had to say yesterday was "no, I love it," but he dodged the question. His lack of denial constituted affirmation. He's not the type to be openly critical.

[wal0645]

eric wrote:

<quoted text>The man hasn't said directly one way or another.he is holding judgment,if he makes the pro bowl and thrives in this defense,is he going to bitch about it?,if he has an off year,im sure he would as it might effect his payday in Free agency,but,we haven't played yet,he might be a big time pro bowler this year,no one knows. So knock off the bs bashing Ted when nothing has happened yet.You bitch along with your partner in crime how the defense sucks and they did last year,so they get a defensive mind ( capers) he inturn grabs the former Carolina defensive coor. as line coach,Kevin Greene as LB coach and they decide with what we have to change to the 3-4 and you guys still bitch about it.

Kampman may be unhappy, but that's really too bad. It's all about making the defense a more effective unit; it's not about whether Kampman or any other player likes it or not. Last years defense cost us a few games because they couldn't stop people. We had some injuries, but the bottom line was the defense was awful except for the secondary which was ok. The line and linebackers were pathetic so this is what we have; a new defense with better coaching.

[noshville]

Kampman will surely be a very good linebacker in the 3/4 defense! Will he be a probowl player-lets play the season and see. About Kampman's demeanor-in his last contract negoitiation he signed he signed with the Vikings and the Packers countered! He will be playing in Green Bay this year and while we all appreciate his great play over the last few years-Aaron now has a little millionaire complex. He is so right-he is just one of eleven players-now we need a winning attitude.

[eric]

wal0645 wrote:

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Kampman may be unhappy, but that's really too bad. It's all about making the defense a more effective unit; it's not about whether Kampman or any other player likes it or not. Last years defense cost us a few games because they couldn't stop people. We had some injuries, but the bottom line was the defense was awful except for the secondary which was ok. The line and linebackers were pathetic so this is what we have; a new defense with better coaching.

i agree,but,NYL had a good point a few entries above us,its basicallly the same players ad system that played pretty well in 07 before last years collapse.It seemed like most games the defense collapsed in the 4th quarter,so how much of it was predictable calling where offenses adjusted and part physical conditioning where they just tired out in the 4 qt.