Colts defense shows it still needs work

Colts defense shows it still needs work

There are 128 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Aug 10, 2007, titled Colts defense shows it still needs work. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

If the Indianapolis Colts' defense is a work in progress, Thursday night's venture into Texas Stadium served a purpose.

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Greg Nichols

Santander, Spain

#1 Aug 10, 2007
Who were those defensive players for the Colts last night??? Is this the defense that is suppose to defend the Super Bowl title??? Does anyone else wish that Pollian had made more of an effort to keep some of the defensive players from last year???
misplaced priorities II

Taylors, SC

#2 Aug 10, 2007
who cares
End of Days

Kenosha, WI

#3 Aug 10, 2007
I think Pollian tried but Indy is a little short of funds to pay for more of his team.
My priorities r football

United States

#4 Aug 10, 2007
misplaced priorities II wrote:
who cares
YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE. Its football season, the best time of the year. Now go take your sour ass somwhere else and bitch to somebody who cares. You probably the same person who gripes about football players making cash and dont gripe about worthless Oprah Winfrey making 260 million or overpaid movie stars making millions.

Once again, its football season, now go back to your hole.
David

Holly Springs, NC

#5 Aug 10, 2007
Think I would feel a whole lot better about the defense if it weren't 3-deep with rookies at some positions. Josh Betts looks a lot more skilled and...well, maybe even ENERGETIC than Sorgi. Have we found a new #2 QB???
Lets go Colts

United States

#6 Aug 10, 2007
I thought there were some excellent signs I took away from the game list night.

1. Ugoh more than held his own against Dallas' formidal pass rushers. Peyton/Sorgi often had plenty of time.
2. The D-Line played pretty well in the first half especially without Raheem in there.
3. TJ Rushing's kick returns were excellent and Shane Andrus was putting our Kickoffs pretty deep.
4. I thought Marlin and Freddy played pretty well. We are going to need them to be solid this year.

I thought Kelvin Hayden looked outmatched against TO. I would have liked to see them put Marlin on him to start the game.
Sorgi wasnt too good, but who cares really.

All and all I thought our first team D played really well for the first time out and missing a few of its big time starters. Only gave up 6 points in the first half and you will take that against Dallas.

Hard to tell with the offense, but I think we can all agree that the offense will be just fine. Good first showing Colts.
kleckoismyhero

Louisville, KY

#7 Aug 10, 2007
Calm down, Greg. This is preseason. The Colts have only 1 win in the last 9 preseason games they have played the past two years. That hasn't stopped them from winning in the regular season going 13-0 in 05 and 9-0 in 06 on their way to the Super Bowl. Why waste your stars and chance them to injury for a game that means nothing. What is important now is that the backups and the rookies get significant playing time to learn the system and be ready to play if needed. They can lose all the preseason games for all I care. It is the regular season where it really counts. Until then, stop whining.
matt in indy

Louisville, KY

#8 Aug 10, 2007
Sorgi sucked donkey balls. he missed Roy Hall about 5 times, and Hall is HUGE! I don't know what the Colts see in him ...
GO COLTS

Marysville, OH

#9 Aug 10, 2007
It's called "PRE-SEASON" and the Colts have lost 10 of their last 11 pre-season games.

Here

Newport, KY

#10 Aug 10, 2007
End of Days wrote:
I think Pollian tried but Indy is a little short of funds to pay for more of his team.
If you lose all of your games during preseason, so what! The preseason record does not mean diddly squat.
Boots

Louisville, KY

#11 Aug 10, 2007
I've been to training camp a couple of times and watched most of the game last night...it seems that Roy Hall has a lot of trouble catching the ball. If he could start catching the passes that come his way, he would be a steal for a 5th round draft pick. Overall I was pleased with Ugoh and the first string run defense. Hayden worries me a little. Marlin looked sharp. Hopefully the ball goes Gonzo's way a little more in the next game. Go Colts!
BS of A

Indianapolis, IN

#12 Aug 10, 2007
Defense looked like it was in midseason form - just like last year in Jacksonville and we all know what happened after that - Super Bowl, baby! I think Dungy has the rest of the league right where he wants them.
Native Hoosier

North Port, FL

#13 Aug 10, 2007
I know one thing...I wouldn't want to pay full price for a preseason game when the regulars show up for just a few plays and call it a day. They shouldn't expect the fans to pay full price to see backups play.
Excuse Me

Louisville, KY

#14 Aug 10, 2007
After the first drive, the offense was for the most part ineffective until the last drive with Josh Betts at Qb. When will the media quit scapegoating the defense? Because Jim Sorgi is not an NFL quarterback the offense did not play effectively. This offensive lack put the defense on the field for most of the game.

Yes, the defense needs improvement. When Bob Sanders plays, the defense gets better. Bob will play at the end of the season and the defense will improve dramatically. The defense also has a hole in the middle without Booger McFarland. The Colts need to find someone to plug the middle of the line and stop the run.

The most glaring defect apparent in the Colts is the lack of depth at the quarterback position. If Rome is out for the Cowboys, they can replace him with Brad Johnson and continue to play at a high level. If Peyton is unable to play, the Colts haven't got a prayer. Of course the media would still blame the defense. Please find a quality back-up Qb. Jim Sorgi may be the nicest guy around, but he is NOT an NFL calibre quarterback. He is just an amiable caddy for Manning.
Brian

Providence, RI

#15 Aug 10, 2007
Lets go Colts wrote:
I thought there were some excellent signs I took away from the game list night.
1. Ugoh more than held his own against Dallas' formidal pass rushers. Peyton/Sorgi often had plenty of time.
2. The D-Line played pretty well in the first half especially without Raheem in there.
3. TJ Rushing's kick returns were excellent and Shane Andrus was putting our Kickoffs pretty deep.
4. I thought Marlin and Freddy played pretty well. We are going to need them to be solid this year.
I thought Kelvin Hayden looked outmatched against TO. I would have liked to see them put Marlin on him to start the game.
Sorgi wasnt too good, but who cares really.
All and all I thought our first team D played really well for the first time out and missing a few of its big time starters. Only gave up 6 points in the first half and you will take that against Dallas.
Hard to tell with the offense, but I think we can all agree that the offense will be just fine. Good first showing Colts.
Ugoh was highlighted on ESPN and was easily beaten by the Cowboys' speed rushers. He showed little ability to move laterally, and Manning had to hurry his throws, with no time to check down to secondary targets. "His" only successful play was when he got help from the tight end. What game were you watching?
IUFan

Palo Alto, CA

#16 Aug 10, 2007
matt in indy wrote:
Sorgi sucked donkey balls. he missed Roy Hall about 5 times, and Hall is HUGE! I don't know what the Colts see in him ...
they see a cheap backup for a guy (manning) who's never missed a game do to injury do you want them to waste millions on a better backup who will never, ever play? instead, they take that money to buy better players at other positions. oh and they won the Super Bowl doing that loser. get a life.
RaleighColtsFan

Wake Forest, NC

#17 Aug 10, 2007
First thought on the first preseason game:

First lets note this is PRE season and really does not mean anything but a few things do stand out. First on offense 1st string looked like the first string no surprise. I did like what I saw from DeDe Dorsey. He looked nervous but I can see why Dungy likes him. Roy Hall is huge! Does he really run a 4.3? He looks like a natural slot reciever. Ugoh looks like a rookie. There was a time that I thought Manning was going to get his head taken off. Ugoh looks like he will be VERY good but probably not until late this year or next which concerns me. I thought Sorgi looked lost and was diffently out played by Betts that looked very good even though he did through that interception in the end zone.

Defense: Wow alot has change! Like we can no longer cover recievers but at least we are no worse in run defense than we were last year. Oh yea, we were the 4th worst in NFL history last year during the regular season.

Now don't get start by saying "Yea, but Bob Sanders did not play." while this is true this completely misses the point. Does anyone really think Bob Sanders can stay healthy if he is the one making the tackles all season? Does any really think for a minute that any safety can stay healthy being the primary tackler on the running back all season. The answer is no that is what LBs are for. Although I love Dungy's cover two he has a MAJOR problem at one position and that is DT. YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT HE PUTS A SMALL LB AT DT!!!! This is just stupid!! We all remember everyone running up the middle on us 3 years ago. They said size was not a problem. Then in the off season they bring in Simon. Problem solved!! Wow novel idea a big DT. Then last year we were told over and over that size was not the problem by Dungy and Polian. Come to find out by their own admission size was a problem at the DT position and they sign "Booger" McFarland. Problem much improved but still far too small at the position over all. So this year to improve the situation Dungy has a GREAT idea to move Keyunta Dawson to DT position. Keep in mind Dawson is only 254lbs!!!! He is a small LB on most teams. Can you say recipe for disaster? Wise up POLIAN and DUNGY you NEED big DTs and more than one.

The 60%+ you spend on the offensive side of the ball will not pay off if your defense is on the field 70% of the time. Just simple math.

I know, I know it is the preseason take a deep breath but we have seen this show before!
RaleighColtsFan

Wake Forest, NC

#18 Aug 10, 2007
Lets go Colts wrote:
I thought there were some excellent signs I took away from the game list night.
1. Ugoh more than held his own against Dallas' formidal pass rushers. Peyton/Sorgi often had plenty of time.
2. The D-Line played pretty well in the first half especially without Raheem in there.
3. TJ Rushing's kick returns were excellent and Shane Andrus was putting our Kickoffs pretty deep.
4. I thought Marlin and Freddy played pretty well. We are going to need them to be solid this year.
I thought Kelvin Hayden looked outmatched against TO. I would have liked to see them put Marlin on him to start the game.
Sorgi wasnt too good, but who cares really.
All and all I thought our first team D played really well for the first time out and missing a few of its big time starters. Only gave up 6 points in the first half and you will take that against Dallas.
Hard to tell with the offense, but I think we can all agree that the offense will be just fine. Good first showing Colts.
Just a question. Is that the same 1st team defense that could not get off the field for 9 minutes on the first drive?

Since: Dec 06

United States

#19 Aug 10, 2007
I agree with many of the postings above. All in all, it was good to see our Colts on the field again. Agree about Sorgi. If Manning gets hurt, we're screwed.

I'm from Orlando but going to the Chicago Game at the RCA Dome. Hopefully they'll let Manning play a little more.

And while it would be nice to see the Colts win the pre-season games, it really doesn't matter. Better for them to try out 4th-string players and find some golden nuggets, then to run the regular offense/defense and never really try out backup players until they are really needed.

And guys, please don't respond to the "who cares" misplaced priorities johnny-jackass. That's all he posts, and then he sits back reading about people telling him to go to hell. Ignore him.
Mary P

United States

#20 Aug 10, 2007
Will be a long season for the Colts. Go Bears!

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