Vikings coach Brad Childress not happ...

Vikings coach Brad Childress not happy with roughing call on Ra...

There are 55 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Nov 15, 2009, titled Vikings coach Brad Childress not happy with roughing call on Ra.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Vikings coach Brad Childress said he spoke to the NFL head of officiating immediately after Sunday's game about the controversial roughing-the-passer penalty on defensive end Ray Edwards.

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Chief

Accokeek, MD

#42 Nov 16, 2009
Nimrod wrote:
helmet to helmet on the QB will always get a call, inadvertant or not. And it wasn't a horse collar on Peterson. Go vikes.
But the point is that it wasn't a helmet to helmet. If you watch the replay Edward's helmet didn't even touch Stafford. The refs are trying to protect quarterbacks, but in the process they are taking the aggressiveness away from the defense. It's crippling.
GHT

Portland, OR

#43 Nov 16, 2009
Chief wrote:
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But the point is that it wasn't a helmet to helmet. If you watch the replay Edward's helmet didn't even touch Stafford. The refs are trying to protect quarterbacks, but in the process they are taking the aggressiveness away from the defense. It's crippling.
the rules are desgined in such a way that the refs will always fail. Now you have to determine angle, where and if it was during or after the play. No ref will call every play correctly or the same. It's ludicrous. Thjey can't even get simple things like placing the ball where the runner ended last, let alone deterimine where on the QB the defender hit him.
Reality

Wichita, KS

#44 Nov 16, 2009
Here is the real problem, that nobody wants to address, Peterson has a fumbling problem if he didn't fumble the ball nobody would even remember this play in the game. The fumble was not caused by the officials, it was caused by Peterson not securing the ball when when defenders are around and not swithing to hand that's on the sideline side.
Whatever

Chambersburg, PA

#45 Nov 16, 2009
No, here's the real problem; that the Minnesota Vikings best player could have easily suffered a season ending injury or worse, due to an illegal tackle. Our best player being injured is the bigger deal, rather than the fumble.
LOL

Saint Paul, MN

#46 Nov 16, 2009
oxboro wrote:
you can blame the Williams boys for the calls going against the Vikes, they fought the suspensions and the team is going to pay for it, a directive was sent down from the league office to the officials..
You can't be serious!
travrosty

Urbandale, IA

#47 Nov 16, 2009
he hit the helmet, thats illegal, not a difficult call for the refs to make.
LOL

Saint Paul, MN

#48 Nov 16, 2009
teresa wrote:
He launched...it was a helmet to helmet....Edwards was having a
good game until he made a huge mental error....it is what the
ref sees not how player tries to justify his action....big mistake.....
dumb plays like this could cost his team in a much bigger game.....
there were too many mistakes and penalties all around by Vikings....
don't expect to go to SB with sloppy play like this....there are NO EXCUSES
for it.....wake up!!
Even Childress says it was just a good play. it was NOT head to head. Wake up yourself and go back and look. The officiating completely sucked yesterday
Frank

Spartanburg, SC

#49 Nov 16, 2009
It looked to me like Madeiu Williams hit Stafford before Edwards did, and Stafford was actually being pushed backwards by the time Edwards got there. I don't think Edwards' helmet ever touched Stafford's, but Stafford's head jerked backwards because Williams hit him.

As for the tackle on Peterson's fumble, the Buchanan grabbed Peterson by the pads, punched the ball out, and then pulled him to the ground by using his hand on the shoulder pads. That's a horse collar, and my guess is the refs missed it because the ball had been knocked loose.

Truth is, I'm still more ticked about the phantom tripping call on Dugan from the Pittsburgh game. Whether it was that call or the call on Edwards yesterday, the refs need to make sure about such calls before they mistakenly change the course of the game.
Jim

Ravenna, MI

#50 Nov 16, 2009
Oh come on! Ray's shot on Stafford wasn't a cheap shot by any means, but it was still a blow to the head.
Jolly Green

Saint Helens, OR

#51 Nov 16, 2009
Love me some Pat Williams sound-bytes. That dude is hilarious.
the dude

North Sioux City, SD

#52 Nov 16, 2009
just to clarify what Pat is saying - he's not saying Stafford is the problem with Detroit. He's saying that he doesn't care about anything not related to the Vikings and that Stafford is for Detroit to worry about. It's "their problem" to figure out. Not 'the' problem as the article interprets. Pat just plays nose tackle and he is really good at it - on top of it he is smart with his words. Please use critical thinking before you write something that doesn't fit the spoken facts.
ERIE-PA FAN

Erie, PA

#53 Nov 16, 2009
Vikes_fan wrote:
Sidney Rice is a class act. After the best game of his career he walks over to thank those that have served. I'm proud to have him on the team not only for his play on the field but for the person he is off the field. Well done Sidney!
Very good observation sir, good post.
ERIE-PA FAN

Erie, PA

#54 Nov 16, 2009
Frank wrote:
It looked to me like Madeiu Williams hit Stafford before Edwards did, and Stafford was actually being pushed backwards by the time Edwards got there. I don't think Edwards' helmet ever touched Stafford's, but Stafford's head jerked backwards because Williams hit him.
As for the tackle on Peterson's fumble, the Buchanan grabbed Peterson by the pads, punched the ball out, and then pulled him to the ground by using his hand on the shoulder pads. That's a horse collar, and my guess is the refs missed it because the ball had been knocked loose.
Truth is, I'm still more ticked about the phantom tripping call on Dugan from the Pittsburgh game. Whether it was that call or the call on Edwards yesterday, the refs need to make sure about such calls before they mistakenly change the course of the game.
I really try not to blame the refs for games but I was outspoken on that tripping call because it was such a huge swing in momentum, still talking about that call, got into it today with a Steeler fan about that call while I was getting my oil changed lol.

Since: Sep 08

Saint Paul, MN

#55 Nov 17, 2009
Pat Williams is not hooked on phonics..this guy actually went to college?
VikesTwins

Jamestown, ND

#56 Nov 27, 2009
So many ways a ref can protect the quarterback.. Well, let me say this. The quarterback, the most payed position knows that they're gonna have 300 pound men bent on hitting him the hardest he can so he can jar the ball loose. What's wrong with that? Nothing. It's called the game of football, not to mention the highest league there is. Now, a little shoulderpad to facemask blow? That's nothing. Edwards didn't even give him the hardest hit. The safety did. The litte, 200 pound safety. I don't know why the refs protect them like that when they have a helmet already.

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