A holey night for Vikings' defense

A holey night for Vikings' defense

There are 26 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Dec 21, 2009, titled A holey night for Vikings' defense. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Vikings cornerback Antoine Winfield wasn't the only player who missed tackles at Carolina on Sunday night.

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Mike 89

Gresham, OR

#1 Dec 22, 2009
first of all we're missing E.J. The rook is a liability at this point

2-Sapp needs to shut up and hit not antagonize STEVE SMITH-anyone remember when the late, great Fred Smoot did that? OMG...

3- that field had something to do with this. Winfiled and Favre were sliding around all game. How ironic is is that the VIKINGS dont know how to play on a hard slippery field? Breaks your heart.

lastly-if the press doesn't shut up about Favre and Childress I'm gonna somebody. He said he might pull him when they were up 7-6. THATS STUPID BRAD. and come on, high school kids get pissed when the coach says they're gonna get pulled-how about Hall Of Famers? duh.
muakratbob

Beckley, WV

#2 Dec 22, 2009
The whole viking team didn't have a good game. It was like a different team no offense,defense or special teams even ryan longwell missed a easy field goal. IF THE VIKING'S WANT IT THEY HAD BETTER GET WITH IT OR THEY'LL BE WATCHING THE PLAYOFF'S FROM THEIR TV. GO VIKINGS.
Monkeybot

United States

#3 Dec 22, 2009
muakratbob wrote:
The whole viking team didn't have a good game. It was like a different team no offense,defense or special teams even ryan longwell missed a easy field goal. IF THE VIKING'S WANT IT THEY HAD BETTER GET WITH IT OR THEY'LL BE WATCHING THE PLAYOFF'S FROM THEIR TV. GO VIKINGS.
You mean watching from their TV after they play in at least one game. They have clinched the division FYI.

The Vikings missed some prime scoring chances also. A missed FG and a chance to return a fumble for a TD. They couldn't wrap that up either. Three fumbles by the Panthers, and not one of them was recovered by the Vikings. They could have been up 17-6 at the half. Steve Smith clearly pulled on Winfield's arm on the TD which turned the tide in favor of Carolina. Should have been a penalty, but wasn't called. Oh well. Hopefully, this one will fire the Vikings up for the rest of the season.
vikesfan

Marshall, MN

#4 Dec 22, 2009
Winfield has to be the most overrated cb in football. he is a great tackler but cannot cover good recievers. he needs to be moved to safety and asher allen should be starting cb
foldenfan

Fergus Falls, MN

#5 Dec 22, 2009
Yes, tackling was sloppy overall. But I wonder if the key to the game was Childress not putting #40 in to help #74 control Peppers. A child could see that Peppers alone was totally disrupting our offense. I think the Wilf's extended Chili's contract when they should have been waiting to see how the entire season went. Terrible coaching!!
RRR in Mpls

Willmar, MN

#6 Dec 22, 2009
My take was that it was the defense that let this one get away--they were on the field and could not stop the panthers. Offense might have sputtered some, but pulling Brett for Tavaris or Rose wasn't going to make up for some horrendous coverage on defense.

Since: Sep 09

United States

#7 Dec 22, 2009
Two out of the last three games they've mailed it in. Not fond of that statistic to tell the truth and it wasn't just one person as I'm sure the Packer Backers will be posting here soon enough. This was flat out a team loss. Play calling was uninspiring and predictable, defense had lead in their pants, special teams faltered for the first time in a long time. This game was very similar to the Giants game with Collins at QB a few years ago, it almost looked like they had the had the Vikings playbook (Like Collins admitted a year after the game). Everything was getting sniffed out. I think it's time for Childress to put in a few poison pill plays in each players book and call it during the game to see who's getting a take under the table. That whole game the Panthers played like they had insider information.

I wasn't impressed to say the least and I hope this trend ends with that game.
TheMaster

United States

#8 Dec 22, 2009
The offensive line's play is offensive. They don't open holes for Peterson and they don't give Favre time. That needs to change. Letting Birk walk was a huge error.

“Vikings Rock”

Since: Jun 08

Smallville, SD

#9 Dec 22, 2009
Pencils Down Class wrote:
Two out of the last three games they've mailed it in. Not fond of that statistic to tell the truth and it wasn't just one person as I'm sure the Packer Backers will be posting here soon enough. This was flat out a team loss. Play calling was uninspiring and predictable, defense had lead in their pants, special teams faltered for the first time in a long time. This game was very similar to the Giants game with Collins at QB a few years ago, it almost looked like they had the had the Vikings playbook (Like Collins admitted a year after the game). Everything was getting sniffed out. I think it's time for Childress to put in a few poison pill plays in each players book and call it during the game to see who's getting a take under the table. That whole game the Panthers played like they had insider information.
I wasn't impressed to say the least and I hope this trend ends with that game.
Not sure you'll see much from Packer trolls, they have there own issues, like being the most penalized team in the league, giving up 503 yds passing alone with that "great D", and potentially losing a wildcard spot to the Giants/Cowboys. Just saying, they seem to only like to rain on someone else's parade when it's sunny there. Got to disagree with you, it was nothing like the Giants game, in which it was over by the first quarter AND a playoff game, since we were still leading in this game going in to the 4th quarter, but I can see some points why you made the analogy since the play calling and tackling was horrible and not accounting for Peppers by rolling protection or away from him was another major coaching flaw.
Gary H

United States

#10 Dec 22, 2009
It seemed to me like we kept trying to tackle the ball intead of taking the ball carrier to the ground.
Justice

Mankato, MN

#11 Dec 22, 2009
sodakviking wrote:
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Not sure you'll see much from Packer trolls, they have there own issues, like being the most penalized team in the league, giving up 503 yds passing alone with that "great D", and potentially losing a wildcard spot to the Giants/Cowboys. Just saying, they seem to only like to rain on someone else's parade when it's sunny there. Got to disagree with you, it was nothing like the Giants game, in which it was over by the first quarter AND a playoff game, since we were still leading in this game going in to the 4th quarter, but I can see some points why you made the analogy since the play calling and tackling was horrible and not accounting for Peppers by rolling protection or away from him was another major coaching flaw.
That is a great looking Black Lab Sodakviking! I'm looking for a pup that will look just like that.
jeb

Albany, CA

#12 Dec 22, 2009
Monkeybot wrote:
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You mean watching from their TV after they play in at least one game. They have clinched the division FYI.
The Vikings missed some prime scoring chances also. A missed FG and a chance to return a fumble for a TD. They couldn't wrap that up either. Three fumbles by the Panthers, and not one of them was recovered by the Vikings. They could have been up 17-6 at the half. Steve Smith clearly pulled on Winfield's arm on the TD which turned the tide in favor of Carolina. Should have been a penalty, but wasn't called. Oh well. Hopefully, this one will fire the Vikings up for the rest of the season.
it is such one of my pet peeves when defenders don't fall on the ball and i don't think vikings ever do it...makes me want to stab things! also you are totally accurate in saying that steve smith pass interfered on his first TD. antoine was going up for the ball and smith pretty much grabbed his arm and shoved him down. it was such an unnatural and obvious movement that winfield made there is no way the ref didn't see it. i hope these games are good for the vikings, they are better when they play with an edge and not one of cockiness.
ezg357d

AOL

#13 Dec 22, 2009
FACT is FACT packrat fans your team has been EXPOSED! And it doesn't matter what you say to me about it . Ive played the game & you can trust that everyone will play the packers the same way as the Steelers did last sunday,over 500 yards was put up on the packers & you cant FIX that (A FACT) GO VIKINGS
Deek

United States

#14 Dec 22, 2009
RRR in Mpls wrote:
My take was that it was the defense that let this one get away--they were on the field and could not stop the panthers. Offense might have sputtered some, but pulling Brett for Tavaris or Rose wasn't going to make up for some horrendous coverage on defense.
I can not see why you would criticize the defense when they were out on the field most of the time. They held the Panthers to 6 up until the 4th quarter. They also had a blocked field goal for the extra point. Allen forced a fumble, which was never recovered by our own team. There were a lot of 3 & Outs for the Panthers (Vikings were in the same boat.) It looked like it was going to be a defensive game, with crappy field conditions at first. Was it that the O-line was not getting protection?
I sometimes wonder about our O-line. How can we play the Pack twice and Favre not even get sacked, let alone really ever touched, or go up against the Bengals and have both AP And C. Taylor run the ball all over the place. It confuses me, since I know that our team has much more talent.... Were they playing 50% out there? Were they starting to try & relax early? Maybe now that the pressure is on, they'll go out & play great for the remainder of the season.
Notanostrich

De Soto, WI

#15 Dec 22, 2009
Benny Sapp, trash talking? Who's Benny Sapp. Was he recently picked up by the Vikings? Guy's gotta have a serious rep to trash talk. Just do your job, you sap. Leave the trash talking to the media.
ezg357d

AOL

#16 Dec 22, 2009
Childress should have had some help on McKinnie side, Someone to chip the Def. player. & on loadholt side hes giveing way the play before it happen he leads with his right foot on running plays so the D knows want is going to happen. I hate to keep saying this same thing over, But im hopeing someone from the VIKINGS will see this & make some changes. GO VIKINGS
Anonymous

Fergus Falls, MN

#17 Dec 22, 2009
Defense was not the main cause of the beating the Vikes received. Though they had their faults they still were okay until they got tired from being on the field so much. The offense never got into any rythm because of Peppers. Mount McKinney is not up to someone like Peppers. If the coach wasn't so stubborn he would have put in Kleinsasser to help out. That failure alone cost the Vikes the game. What was ownership thinking when they extended Childress' contract?
Raier

Decorah, IA

#18 Dec 22, 2009
We have problems on both sides of the ball. The offense has lost its grasp on the running game. The O-line has had two bad games in the last 3 played. That is not just a bad game. Winners battle and find a way to win. It didn't happen on either side of the ball. Say what you want about the coaching, but players play the game.

“Vikings Rock”

Since: Jun 08

Smallville, SD

#19 Dec 22, 2009
Justice wrote:
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That is a great looking Black Lab Sodakviking! I'm looking for a pup that will look just like that.
Believe it or not but we got him from the pound. I've paid a lot over the years for a good hunting dog, but this year my wife pursuaded me to go this route. The pup's got some nose on him, a little bull headed, but I would rather have an aggressive than a shy one. First pheasant hunt this year, he did well once he figured out what we were after. Was going to get him out one more time over Christmas, but we are getting hit with snow so I'll leave the birds alone for their survival. Always next year.
Justice

Mankato, MN

#20 Dec 22, 2009
sodakviking wrote:
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Believe it or not but we got him from the pound. I've paid a lot over the years for a good hunting dog, but this year my wife pursuaded me to go this route. The pup's got some nose on him, a little bull headed, but I would rather have an aggressive than a shy one. First pheasant hunt this year, he did well once he figured out what we were after. Was going to get him out one more time over Christmas, but we are getting hit with snow so I'll leave the birds alone for their survival. Always next year.
The best Lab I ever had didn't come with a pedigree and the worst one cost me over a grand, so you never know!
I am a firm believer that as long as you get a healthy retriever that it's performance is determined more by the time you put in with it than the money you spend for it.
I like those long legged big bodied labs that plow through the grass rather than jump through it like a Spaniel. Yours looks like it has a lot of size. I hope you have many good years of hunting together.

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