Backup QB Tarvaris Jackson says he's ...

Backup QB Tarvaris Jackson says he's ready to step in, if needed, for Vikings

There are 41 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Oct 25, 2010, titled Backup QB Tarvaris Jackson says he's ready to step in, if needed, for Vikings. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Should Brett Favre sit for the first time in 18 years Sunday when the Vikings travel to New England, Tarvaris Jackson says he provides a different element to the offense.

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eric_113

“Blue collar in paradise”

Since: Mar 10

I did NOT miss a spot

#22 Oct 26, 2010
jeb wrote:
tyrell was terrible in this game...notice that we have faced other good passing offenses this year and done just fine, yet this game we get scorched through the air. some of the blame can go to Chris cook, but at least one of the big plays against him he had good coverage and the receiver just made a great catch...also tyrell was not there giving him any over the top help. i saw many plays, just like last year, where tyrell was a least a second behind which, in the NFL is an eternity.
What's even more of a concern to me- the D- line is looking more than a year older. What happened to the dominating unit we are so used to seeing, stuffing the run and planting QB's?

If the secondary is struggling the guys up front need to get to the QB pronto. No sacks of ShAaron?? If ShAaron hadn't have been so off with his throws (he had a bad game throwing far away from his guys time and again) the Vikes could have been lit up badly.

I figured the Vikes offense to be different from last year's version because of the loss of Rice, but if the defense is going to struggle against the likes of Green Bay the Vikes may be in some real trouble. I hope Frazier has a few tricks up his sleeve for New England.
idea

Duluth, MN

#23 Oct 26, 2010
eric_113 wrote:
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What's even more of a concern to me- the D- line is looking more than a year older. What happened to the dominating unit we are so used to seeing, stuffing the run and planting QB's?
If the secondary is struggling the guys up front need to get to the QB pronto. No sacks of ShAaron?? If ShAaron hadn't have been so off with his throws (he had a bad game throwing far away from his guys time and again) the Vikes could have been lit up badly.
I figured the Vikes offense to be different from last year's version because of the loss of Rice, but if the defense is going to struggle against the likes of Green Bay the Vikes may be in some real trouble. I hope Frazier has a few tricks up his sleeve for New England.
it's not that it's just that their being run on more and the secondary is worse so it is more expected to be a pass oh and by the way jared allen needs to pull his own wieght at least
andy g

Chicago, IL

#24 Oct 26, 2010
Bellichek is licking his chops...Moss won't see a ball and AD will have half the Patriot D on his butt the whole game.
We will see 10 in the box for the first time in pro football history.
As I have said many times before, the next safety that TJoke looks off will be the first.
Tell me again the logic in trading Rosenfels to the NY FB Giants??? What, we couldn't get a bag of gatorade powder for Jackson???
Lucky us...the damn Bears get ahead in the standings feeling sorry for themselves...

Since: Sep 08

Farmington, MN

#25 Oct 26, 2010
im thinking the 14-2 season is out of the question, where are the posters with the purple color glasses that were here in august?
Hawkshaw

Saint Paul, MN

#26 Oct 26, 2010
The viking players were so confident that T-jack could lead the team they went to Mississippi before the season started and begged Farve to come back.

“Vikings Rock”

Since: Jun 08

Smallville, SD

#27 Oct 26, 2010
eric_113 wrote:
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What's even more of a concern to me- the D- line is looking more than a year older. What happened to the dominating unit we are so used to seeing, stuffing the run and planting QB's?
If the secondary is struggling the guys up front need to get to the QB pronto. No sacks of ShAaron?? If ShAaron hadn't have been so off with his throws (he had a bad game throwing far away from his guys time and again) the Vikes could have been lit up badly.
I figured the Vikes offense to be different from last year's version because of the loss of Rice, but if the defense is going to struggle against the likes of Green Bay the Vikes may be in some real trouble. I hope Frazier has a few tricks up his sleeve for New England.
You bring up an interesting point. Not sure if you saw the same thing, but since the four man D-Line was not getting pressure, I was wondering why they never started blitzing Leber, Greenway or Henderson. They seemed to eat up a lot of space covering nobody 10 yards deep. Always liked aggressive defenses, and we could have done a lot better job this game, especially since GB basically does not have a run game and throws almost every down.

“Vikings Rock”

Since: Jun 08

Smallville, SD

#28 Oct 26, 2010
oxboro wrote:
im thinking the 14-2 season is out of the question, where are the posters with the purple color glasses that were here in august?
OX, no need for a 14-2 record. Those that posted a projected 14-2 record do not understand how hard it is to win consistently in the NFL with variables like injuries and strength of schedule. I will say that after watching all four teams within the NFC North, a 9-7 or possibly even 8-8 could win it, depending on if Detroit can pull out some division wins, so no team is out of it at this point.

eric_113

“Blue collar in paradise”

Since: Mar 10

I did NOT miss a spot

#29 Oct 26, 2010
sodakviking wrote:
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You bring up an interesting point. Not sure if you saw the same thing, but since the four man D-Line was not getting pressure, I was wondering why they never started blitzing Leber, Greenway or Henderson. They seemed to eat up a lot of space covering nobody 10 yards deep. Always liked aggressive defenses, and we could have done a lot better job this game, especially since GB basically does not have a run game and throws almost every down.
It is too bad an adjustment wasn't made to get some pressure on Rodgers. The game could have come out differently I believe, Rodgers never looked comfortable during the game, as if he was expecting to be ragdolled like last year. A shame the Vikes didn't oblige.
Dick L

Saint Paul, MN

#30 Oct 26, 2010
Your going to have to play TJ sometime, why not now? Hell we're losing anyway. Maybe he has improved? Farve isn't going to get any better anyway.
jeb

United States

#31 Oct 26, 2010
eric_113 wrote:
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What's even more of a concern to me- the D- line is looking more than a year older. What happened to the dominating unit we are so used to seeing, stuffing the run and planting QB's?
If the secondary is struggling the guys up front need to get to the QB pronto. No sacks of ShAaron?? If ShAaron hadn't have been so off with his throws (he had a bad game throwing far away from his guys time and again) the Vikes could have been lit up badly.
I figured the Vikes offense to be different from last year's version because of the loss of Rice, but if the defense is going to struggle against the likes of Green Bay the Vikes may be in some real trouble. I hope Frazier has a few tricks up his sleeve for New England.
that seems to be true but its a tough call because our dline has gotten pretty consistent pressure, just not a lot of sacks. teams have made a lot of adjustments to playing against them this year. lots of max protect out of shotgun, lots of screens and quick 3 step passes. Shaaron is not the only good QB to have a number of 'off/bad' throws because they are trying to constantly get the ball off quickly. we have played a lot of good passing teams and none of them really got much down field. if we want to try more diligently to sack the QB we could bring LBs more often but then we are gonna be more vulnerable on those quick passes and screens. i am very satisfied with our defense overall but our run defense is what does worry me at times. they have not been as stout as i expect them to be.
andy g

Chicago, IL

#32 Oct 28, 2010
sodakviking wrote:
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You bring up an interesting point. Not sure if you saw the same thing, but since the four man D-Line was not getting pressure, I was wondering why they never started blitzing Leber, Greenway or Henderson. They seemed to eat up a lot of space covering nobody 10 yards deep. Always liked aggressive defenses, and we could have done a lot better job this game, especially since GB basically does not have a run game and throws almost every down.
What Green Bay did with lethal results was everytime the Minny LB came up and were in blitz calls, they threw the screen outlet to Jackson..nothing stops overzealous LB like the screen pass...football 101.
Add in the fact that Rodgers has a cannon arm and is getting better on his releases, it was not a decent pressure package situation. If they come with a blitz, it needed to be off the edge and the Viking corners are barely holding their own right now in coverage.
Bullfarts

Houston, TX

#34 Oct 28, 2010
andy g wrote:
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What Green Bay did with lethal results was everytime the Minny LB came up and were in blitz calls, they threw the screen outlet to Jackson..nothing stops overzealous LB like the screen pass...football 101.
Add in the fact that Rodgers has a cannon arm and is getting better on his releases, it was not a decent pressure package situation. If they come with a blitz, it needed to be off the edge and the Viking corners are barely holding their own right now in coverage.
Coach Ditka

“Vikings Rock”

Since: Jun 08

Smallville, SD

#35 Oct 28, 2010
andy g wrote:
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What Green Bay did with lethal results was everytime the Minny LB came up and were in blitz calls, they threw the screen outlet to Jackson..nothing stops overzealous LB like the screen pass...football 101.
Add in the fact that Rodgers has a cannon arm and is getting better on his releases, it was not a decent pressure package situation. If they come with a blitz, it needed to be off the edge and the Viking corners are barely holding their own right now in coverage.
A good defense will throw multiple coverages to confuse the offense. I never saw much on Minny's side that resulted in what you referred too. The screen outlets worked because our LB dropped in coverage, hence no one to stop the screen pass until 10 yards downfield. Also, a cannon arm is best defeated by pressure and to put him on his butt before his WR can get deep, plus a blitz actually helps struggling corners in that they don' have to stay in coverage while he picks them apart. Just saying, would rather have had an aggressive defense this game. Pretty sure Rodgers would have wilted like last year if we would have hit him a couple times.
Times

United States

#36 Oct 28, 2010
But the Vikings suck this year so it never happened.
This

United States

#37 Oct 28, 2010
sodakviking wrote:
<quoted text>
OX, no need for a 14-2 record. Those that posted a projected 14-2 record do not understand how hard it is to win consistently in the NFL with variables like injuries and strength of schedule. I will say that after watching all four teams within the NFC North, a 9-7 or possibly even 8-8 could win it, depending on if Detroit can pull out some division wins, so no team is out of it at this point.
Such lofty goals, suck and finish 8-8 win a weak division and not reach the Super Bowl because you suck and finished 8-8 in a weak division.
andy g

Chicago, IL

#38 Oct 29, 2010
sodakviking wrote:
<quoted text>
A good defense will throw multiple coverages to confuse the offense. I never saw much on Minny's side that resulted in what you referred too. The screen outlets worked because our LB dropped in coverage, hence no one to stop the screen pass until 10 yards downfield. Also, a cannon arm is best defeated by pressure and to put him on his butt before his WR can get deep, plus a blitz actually helps struggling corners in that they don' have to stay in coverage while he picks them apart. Just saying, would rather have had an aggressive defense this game. Pretty sure Rodgers would have wilted like last year if we would have hit him a couple times.
When you live by the T2 you die by the T2 and deep under drops by LB are a hallmark of the the T2. The personnel avaailable to Frazier are not conducive to a zero or C1 packabe which if you are blitzing LB's you have to have. At every level from HS up. It is a system and personnel thing. Withthe T2 you generate pressure from a 7 technique weak DE and the 3 tech tackle. If they fail, it fails and the seam / skinny post guts you like a fish...your zone dies in 3.5 seconds.
Bring back the bump and run!
Dan

Minneapolis, MN

#39 Oct 29, 2010
note to T-JOKE, you still cant read defenses!!! pats will put 9 in the box and make t-joke try to beat them. i damn sure clueless said t-joke read every defense thrown at him, completed every pass and secondary pass attempts in F**KING PRACTICE!!!! t-joke pack your bags and take the stick f**k of a coach/coordinator with your non-reading defense a** on a special busline that the wild coach and GM caught called the SHEEP F**KERS EXPRESS!!! BAHH BAAHHH
Kanfan

United States

#40 Oct 29, 2010
Dick L wrote:
Your going to have to play TJ sometime, why not now? Hell we're losing anyway. Maybe he has improved? Farve isn't going to get any better anyway.
Farve isn't gonna get better because he is a fence post. Also OL doesn't pick up blitz worth a damn. TJ gives us a better chance because he can use a moving pocket with the option to run. But first we need a coach and co-ordinator that know how to make proper use of the people we have.
andy g

Chicago, IL

#41 Oct 29, 2010
Kanfan wrote:
<quoted text>Farve isn't gonna get better because he is a fence post. Also OL doesn't pick up blitz worth a damn. TJ gives us a better chance because he can use a moving pocket with the option to run. But first we need a coach and co-ordinator that know how to make proper use of the people we have.
What good is a rolling pocket to Jackson...he only reads half the field, if that and hasn't looked of a safety in his career.
BTW: Blitz pickups are the work of the RB's...the fat guys are zone blocking mostly.
idea

Duluth, MN

#42 Oct 29, 2010
Backup QB Tavaris Jackson says he's ready to LOSE the next game for the vikings if called upon and said he is willing to show his famous indescion and failure to make accurate throws and inability to throw the ball deep and just plain overall failure to be an nfl caliber quarterback obvious to all but minnesotans and chilly

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