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There are 49 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Dec 15, 2009, titled Coleman: Rose trip not just sun, fun | BuckeyeXtra. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Kurt Coleman, recently crowned MVP of the 2009 Ohio State football team, wants his reign to end on an up note.

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Duck in Portland

Portland, OR

#1 Dec 15, 2009
Wow...........this reporter doesn't do very good research. Chip Kelly used to coach at New Hampshire, not northeastern. Way to go buckeyes.......you all won't forget the name Chip Kelly or where he came from after the Rose Bowl. Nor will you forget our Offense can't be stopped or that we do play some defense.
DAVEG

Madison, WI

#2 Dec 15, 2009
Tressel shold be talking more offense with the better coaches...it can't hurt.
silverbullet80

Akron, OH

#3 Dec 15, 2009
Wow, I can't believe how arrogant a lot of these Oregon fans are...I really hope we smash em' back down where they belong...
Duck in Portland

Portland, OR

#4 Dec 15, 2009
silverbullet80 wrote:
Wow, I can't believe how arrogant a lot of these Oregon fans are...I really hope we smash em' back down where they belong...
I have heard this comment several times. We aren't any more arrogant than your fan base. I have seen many trash talkers on our newspapers and a sports board I chat on that are buckeyes. Don't even try to say you don't have peeps who think your unbeatable. It is so far from the truth....lol. We get no respect and you get too much. I am ready for the game and the win to show the country the sec isn't the only good conference and the fact that SC isn't the team that can beat you from the Pac ten. We are battle tested and ready for some buck for lunch. I think we win by ten, minimum! 38-20
PAR

Columbus, OH

#5 Dec 15, 2009
Duck in Portland wrote:
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I think we win by ten, minimum! 38-20
I've seen many predictions from Duck fans very similar to yours. You seem to view a top-5 defense as equivalent to the average defense the Ducks played against this year. I've even seen some predict 50+, which the Ducks put up only on a Wash St defense that averages giving up nearly 40.

It'll be fun watching this one. Great pitching can stop great hitting and a great defense can stop a great offense.
BuckinTol

United States

#6 Dec 15, 2009
I find it humorous that a number of postings by fans of other schools tOSU has played seem to measure their success by whether or not they beat the Bucks! tOSU must still have a pretty strong rep outside Ohio! Where's Gator Gary these days???
GETFOOTOUTOFMOUT H

United States

#7 Dec 15, 2009
Great to hear a guy like Coleman isn't just happy playing in the Rose Bowl, but wants to end his college career on a huge win...go bucks!
Just saying

Columbus, OH

#8 Dec 15, 2009
Duck in Portland wrote:
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I have heard this comment several times. We aren't any more arrogant than your fan base. I have seen many trash talkers on our newspapers and a sports board I chat on that are buckeyes. Don't even try to say you don't have peeps who think your unbeatable. It is so far from the truth....lol. We get no respect and you get too much. I am ready for the game and the win to show the country the sec isn't the only good conference and the fact that SC isn't the team that can beat you from the Pac ten. We are battle tested and ready for some buck for lunch. I think we win by ten, minimum! 38-20
Glad to year *you* are ready; this provides an added dimension to an already impressive Oregon squad :-)

Truth be told, neither one of us (nor anyone posting on this comment board) will be suiting up New Year's Day...or ever. Also true: both of our schools, as well as every big-name program in the country you care to name, have more than our share of arrogant fans.

As an OSU alum, I am a big fan of the Buckeyes and look forward to this game; having attended the '85 Rose Bowl I really wish I could make this one. I also have a great deal of respect for Oregon and the strides that program has made the past decade in becoming a consistent power. I don't think those statements are at odds with each other; in fact I think this is just the sort of test both programs need.

If Oregon and Ohio State fans alike have fun anonymously lobbing virtual smack at each other, have at it...but myself, I don't get it. I read things like "We get no respect" and get the impression the commenter takes it personally (on a side note, who - other than people posting in these newspaper forums - is not respecting Oregon...and why would it matter? Aren't the Ducks favored?).

I expect OSU's defense to give up a lot of yards to a potent Oregon offense but to limit points and eventually prevail IF OSU can show a little imagination and execution while burning some clock. A win would be satisfying - nothing more. A loss would be disappointing - nothing more. Whatever the efforts put forth by a bunch of college kids I've never met led by a guy wearing a sweater vest who I've also never met, I will wake up the morning of January 2 the same person I was the day before (though hopefully without the January 1 hangover).

Feel free to taunt each other, or me if you prefer, all you like; I'll get out of your way now.
Fear the Duck

Indio, CA

#9 Dec 15, 2009
Nice comments by Tressel, I think most Duck fans think he is a little stiff, but it sounds like the guy has a good sense of humor.

May the best team win...GO DUCKS!!!
Duck Off

Eugene, OR

#10 Dec 15, 2009
'Just Saying,' that was a considerate and well thought out post. Thank you.

To the writer of this story,'Duck in Portland' Nailed It!, you did not research well. To those who call DiP arrogant, IMO, you missed the point. He wasn't being arrogant, he was being more accurate than the journalist. Kelly also was not named 'coach in waiting' two years ago but rather last fall. He came to Oregon from New Hampshire two years ago. We like him and what he does and how he does it. He has integrity and a roll-up-your-sleeves get it done attitude. His players love him as do his coaching staff.

I intend this information to be informational, not a slam at anyone or any other school or team. We love our coach, and team for what they do both on and off the field of play (go to GoDucks.com and review some of the ways which they help in both the local and world communities.)

I didn't get tickets to the RB game. About that I am most disappointed. I looked forward to meeting some of you in Pasadena. Have a great time.

Go Ducks/Bucks
Duck in Portland

Portland, OR

#11 Dec 15, 2009
PAR wrote:
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I've seen many predictions from Duck fans very similar to yours. You seem to view a top-5 defense as equivalent to the average defense the Ducks played against this year. I've even seen some predict 50+, which the Ducks put up only on a Wash St defense that averages giving up nearly 40.
It'll be fun watching this one. Great pitching can stop great hitting and a great defense can stop a great offense.
We won't score 50 or 40. I think we will score in the mid to high 30's though. You won't keep this offense down forever. You shouldn't drink the defense koolaid so much. It will tear your heart apart when the game is over. You also shouldn't believe all that you hear, you should look up some stats and see that your very very wrong about pac ten defenses. Btw, your defense didn't have to play northwestern or msu who happen to have good offenses. We don't even know who the undisputed champ of the big eleven is. lol.......

Average defenses? The pac ten has 6 defenses in the top 50 like the big eleven does. They don't have any top ten but ASU is 12th. Oregon led that game 31-7 at half. There are several in the top 27, Oregon is 32. All of those defenses didn't skip any pac ten teams.......whom (save wazzu) all have decent to very good offenses which are more dynamic than big ten offenses that produce more points and yards. Combine all the stats and read between the lines. Oregon won't be facing anything new or will be scared. This is why Duck fans aren't worried about this game. We have faced much tougher opponents all year long. We have wins over teams that are better than you. We are battle tested and ready to bring it.
Homer

Ithaca, NY

#12 Dec 15, 2009
PAR wrote:
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I've seen many predictions from Duck fans very similar to yours. You seem to view a top-5 defense as equivalent to the average defense the Ducks played against this year. I've even seen some predict 50+, which the Ducks put up only on a Wash St defense that averages giving up nearly 40.
It'll be fun watching this one. Great pitching can stop great hitting and a great defense can stop a great offense.
Again it must be explained to yet another myopic Buckeye fan that if you want to tout your "top 5" defense, you must consider the competition. I'm sure your defense is good, but your statistical ranking is the result of playing the 59th ranked strength of schedule. There is nothing remotely as potent as Oregon's offense in the Big-10, or in all of college football for that matter.
GETFOOTOUTOFMOUT H

United States

#13 Dec 15, 2009
Duck in Portland wrote:
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We won't score 50 or 40. I think we will score in the mid to high 30's though. You won't keep this offense down forever. You shouldn't drink the defense koolaid so much. It will tear your heart apart when the game is over. You also shouldn't believe all that you hear, you should look up some stats and see that your very very wrong about pac ten defenses. Btw, your defense didn't have to play northwestern or msu who happen to have good offenses. We don't even know who the undisputed champ of the big eleven is. lol.......
Average defenses? The pac ten has 6 defenses in the top 50 like the big eleven does. They don't have any top ten but ASU is 12th. Oregon led that game 31-7 at half. There are several in the top 27, Oregon is 32. All of those defenses didn't skip any pac ten teams.......whom (save wazzu) all have decent to very good offenses which are more dynamic than big ten offenses that produce more points and yards. Combine all the stats and read between the lines. Oregon won't be facing
much tougher opponents all year long. We have wins over teams that are better than you. We are battle tested and ready to bring it.
You are saying we shouldn't buy into the defensive stats and hype, why are you so quick to buy into your offensive stats and hype? OSU could make the same argument that UO fans are about buying into the hype. My suggestion, sit back and let the kids play it out on the field instead of trying to win an irrelevant argument.
specquackular

De Pere, WI

#14 Dec 15, 2009
The Ducks are gonna leave webbed footprints up and down the backs of OSU defense.
OSU lost to USC while the ducks led 41-20 after 3 quarters then called off the dogs. They coasted to a 47-20 win.
The ducks led WSU 42-0 at the half and again called off the dogs winning 52-6.
Oregon led Washington 36-6 after 3 quarters, called off the dogs and coasted 43-19.
Ducks will lead OSU by 21 after 3. Kelly will take off his headset midway through the fourth quarter, and take the gatorade shower a minute later and the ducks coast is clear.
RJBob

Eugene, OR

#15 Dec 15, 2009
You have to hand it to these Duck fans. The way they talk, you'd think the Bucks were Team Vanilla playing in Conference Flintstone. Oh, wait a minute...we are and do.
Iceman44

Jonesborough, TN

#16 Dec 15, 2009
I'm glad to see that Coleman and Company aren't going to Pasadena for a party, but are preparing for a "business" trip. Tress ought to follow Woody's lead from the '69 Rose Bowl and have the team stay in a local monastery. Woody also had the team hit the practice field upon their arrival in Pasadena - if I remember correctly Woody had them putting on the pads on the airplane. It was all business, and they whipped the USC Trojans and won the National Championship.

The last couple of years there has been too much sight-seeing and tourism for the players at Bowl games. Keep the team focused on the game, practice hard and often, and they can tour the town AFTER the game. Call me old-school if you'd like - I take that as a compliment.
buckeye till i die

Orange, CA

#17 Dec 15, 2009
Duck in Portland wrote:
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We won't score 50 or 40. I think we will score in the mid to high 30's though. You won't keep this offense down forever. You shouldn't drink the defense koolaid so much. It will tear your heart apart when the game is over. You also shouldn't believe all that you hear, you should look up some stats and see that your very very wrong about pac ten defenses. Btw, your defense didn't have to play northwestern or msu who happen to have good offenses. We don't even know who the undisputed champ of the big eleven is. lol.......
Average defenses? The pac ten has 6 defenses in the top 50 like the big eleven does. They don't have any top ten but ASU is 12th. Oregon led that game 31-7 at half. There are several in the top 27, Oregon is 32. All of those defenses didn't skip any pac ten teams.......whom (save wazzu) all have decent to very good offenses which are more dynamic than big ten offenses that produce more points and yards. Combine all the stats and read between the lines. Oregon won't be facing anything new or will be scared. This is why Duck fans aren't worried about this game. We have faced much tougher opponents all year long. We have wins over teams that are better than you. We are battle tested and ready to bring it.
gee funny you say we didnt play northwestern or msu we didnt have to we played penn st., and iowa who also have top offenses and defenses in the country 1 year you guys do great and now your the s*&t so what u sound like michigan now. when you do it year in and year out like the bucks do then talk all u want(true the last 3 years have been gut wrenching but....)ill take 5 big ten titles in a row,3 national title apperances a national title includeing bcs bowl victories in 02,03,05....7 heismans 7 national titles, legendary coaches and players to many to mention...but the point being when you have all this or done all this already then you have the right to talk until then u really cant say much but like hey"we got the best offense we can play defense, we beat usc, we won the pac ten big deal. we've beat usc many times before back before you were a top university oops did i say that sorry...but anyway i hope it is a good game and may the best team that day win........GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!
buckmont

Canal Winchester, OH

#18 Dec 15, 2009
I have a lot of respect for Duck Offense. It's very imaginative and potent. Masoli is a beast! That said, I expect them to score, though not as much as they've been accustomed to this year.

In the Civil War they showed a proclivity to turn the ball over--something that if is repeated will play into the hands of Tressel Ball. I think defensively they seemed susceptible to the run, something that has picked up for Ohio State. Oregon's run defense was also suspect against Stanford. That said, I think it will be a competitive--4 qtr game with a Buck win "if" pryor can hit some deep balls (remains to be seen) to keep Duck Defense honest. This is bc i expect Pryor to run, and run often.
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On another note for Buckeye fans I'm concerned with being 27 on recruiting lists. If Tres is looking at 6 or more recruits, can anyone share who of substance is left that we have a good chance for? Go Bucks!
Duck in Portland

Portland, OR

#19 Dec 15, 2009
GETFOOTOUTOFMOUTH wrote:
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You are saying we shouldn't buy into the defensive stats and hype, why are you so quick to buy into your offensive stats and hype? OSU could make the same argument that UO fans are about buying into the hype. My suggestion, sit back and let the kids play it out on the field instead of trying to win an irrelevant argument.
I am not saying you can't buy into any of the hype. Just trying to let you know your defense isn't all that. Considering your opponents and their offenses your defensive rankings are skewed. We know Oregon played every team in the conference, against some good defenses and offenses. Your a decent team but we win and it won't be as close as some of our pac ten competition. We are fast, dynamic, smooth, and damn good. We are very much looking forward to this game. Just think, next year after returning 18 starters (10 on offense, whole o-line returns) we will be a preseason top 5 team looking for a title game. tOSU will be our springboard into the national spotlight on a regular basis. We are at the top but haven't quite cracked national elite status. We want that and your in our way! We get no respect and are underestimated. We don't care about the stats your defense is bringing in, you will see something that will give you nightmares after new years day.....
Duck in Portland

Portland, OR

#20 Dec 15, 2009
buckmont wrote:
I have a lot of respect for Duck Offense. It's very imaginative and potent. Masoli is a beast! That said, I expect them to score, though not as much as they've been accustomed to this year.
In the Civil War they showed a proclivity to turn the ball over--something that if is repeated will play into the hands of Tressel Ball. I think defensively they seemed susceptible to the run, something that has picked up for Ohio State. Oregon's run defense was also suspect against Stanford. That said, I think it will be a competitive--4 qtr game with a Buck win "if" pryor can hit some deep balls (remains to be seen) to keep Duck Defense honest. This is bc i expect Pryor to run, and run often.
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On another note for Buckeye fans I'm concerned with being 27 on recruiting lists. If Tres is looking at 6 or more recruits, can anyone share who of substance is left that we have a good chance for? Go Bucks!
The beavers took full well of our miscues and kept the pressure on constantly. They along with Stanford were able to do that for one reason.......they had a qb who could pass consistently and accurately. Can TP do this? They won't have to be deep balls but they need to pass more than they do. Oregon will force it......

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