Green Bay Packers: The Best First Rou...

Green Bay Packers: The Best First Round Draft Picks Of The Last 50 Years

There are 24 comments on the Bleacher Report story from Apr 10, 2009, titled Green Bay Packers: The Best First Round Draft Picks Of The Last 50 Years. In it, Bleacher Report reports that:

As the 2009 NFL Draft approaches and anticipation builds, Packer fans are hoping the team's first round draft pick will turn out to be our next Hall of Famer.

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GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#1 Apr 12, 2009
What a shock. No Thompson picks on the list!
wal0645

Yorktown, VA

#2 Apr 12, 2009
Rogers will probably make this list eventually. These other players are current guys that have played a few years or former players where you can evaluate clearly what they have done. I believe Hawk will also make the list. TT has only been GM for four years and none of his players have enough experience to say they are sure things. The only guy TT may have missed on is Harrell and even with him it's not too late to say he's a bad pick (although he's got a lot of proving to do).
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#3 Apr 12, 2009
wal0645 wrote:
Rogers will probably make this list eventually. These other players are current guys that have played a few years or former players where you can evaluate clearly what they have done. I believe Hawk will also make the list. TT has only been GM for four years and none of his players have enough experience to say they are sure things. The only guy TT may have missed on is Harrell and even with him it's not too late to say he's a bad pick (although he's got a lot of proving to do).
Ted Thompson has been GM in GB longer than the average lenth of an NFL career. This is long enough to determine whether many players were good, great or lousy picks. It didn't take anywhere near 4 years to assess Adrian Peterson as a great pick or Tony Mandarich as a flop, just to name 2 of many, many examples. The very fact that few, if any, of his picks can be declared successes yet, does not reflect well on TT.
eric

Marshfield, WI

#4 Apr 12, 2009
of course he got Ryan Grant for a 6th,Atari Bigby undrafted and many in the mid rounds,but,of course you giving Ted the credit he deserves for that,well......
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#5 Apr 12, 2009
eric wrote:
of course he got Ryan Grant for a 6th,Atari Bigby undrafted and many in the mid rounds,but,of course you giving Ted the credit he deserves for that,well......
Absolutely! I completely give Ted the credit he deserves. The credit he deserves for his drafts, trades and FAs is the results they have produced.

I am always the first one to give Ted the credit for a "losing" cumulative record, only 2 wins outside our division after 4 years, and one playoff appearance in 4 years. Why do you refuse to give Ted the credit he has earned?
eric

Marshfield, WI

#6 Apr 13, 2009
because Ted took a team that had to be gutted and over the cap started with 32 guys with 2 seasons or less exp and went 4-12 *no surprise there) went to 8-8 which i think we can all agree is a good jump,win increase of 4 wins! then to 13-3, which surprised a few people im sure and we were an ot away from the SB.Up until then he did a spectacular job!
Then
the Brett Favre garbage with a very young team that didn't need the distraction.
a first year qb that i think we can all agree did a more then admirable job in his first year as a starter and im sure MM played abit more conservative with it and he should open it up more this coming up year with a year under AR belt.
Injuries to key players on defense which many if not all teams would struggle to win if had that many.not an excuse,it fact,,the fact of NFL football,the healthiest and luckiest team usually wins it.
so he fell back 1 year after 3 years of progessing and it was injuries that are a contributing factor in all sports,all teams ect.No we didnt have the depth in spots but unf. for us that was the positions we got hit in and every team goes through that,you cant fill every positions with talent,a backup here would start somewhere else and vice versa.
now first round picks
Aaron Rodgers,barring injuries,looks like a darn nice pick so far
AJ Hawk..a nice pick,playing abit under what we thought,but,he is in the middle again like in college so maybe he gets a bit better and turns into a very good LB,not just a good LB.
Justin Harrell,so far a failure and will prob be written off as a loss,but, we need depth a NT so maybe they give him 1 more shot and the kid can actually prove himself,who knows
4th 1 round pick he traded it and we got Brian Brohm and Jordy Nelson who isnt great but not bad.

and it was also Ted who traded the Javon Walker pick,wouldnt take Jackson from Florida( and got a lot of flack for it and Chad Jackson has done nothing to date) and instead he took Greg Jennings in the 2nd round,so i guess that more then worked for us didnt it?
as far records Larry Brown is a HOF coach and has the most loses in HIstory in the NBA or danrn close to it,why because he rebuilds teams and TED THOMPSON had to rebuild the team from a cap strapped team,to a team we have today,so he has done a nice job.
Ryan Pickett FA
Charles Woodson FA
Ryan Grant Trade
Greg Jennings draft froma trade
he hasnt done alot in FA but look at teams that sign big price FA,,,give me a big price FA that worked out and we can find multiples that hadnt worked out,He believes in building thought the draft and that philosophy has worked for years and will continue to do so
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#7 Apr 13, 2009
There was no way I'de read all your crap. So let me guess. It's a list of everything you BELIEVE TT has ever done right.

Guess what? The FACT is that all that stuff amounted to 2 wins outside our division, a losing record and 1 playoff appearance.
wal0645

Yorktown, VA

#8 Apr 13, 2009
Well Eric; I believe in just about anything you have written. I too believe both Rogers and Hawk will go down as pretty good 1st round picks. Rogers just landed in our laps and thank God we are fortunate to have a quality QB for the next 10 plus years.....man, are we spoiled!!!! So in four drafts, there are probably two quality picks. I also believe TT will hit gold this year with the 9th. The drafts, trades, FA's, and money management points you allude are all excellent examples of a guy that knows how to run an organization. TT isn't perfect, but has hit winners more than most GM's.
wal0645

Yorktown, VA

#9 Apr 13, 2009
Well when TT selects Maybin from Penn State with the 9th, that will make possibly three impact players selected with really four opportunities at 1st round picks. I assume Rogers will definitely make the list and there is no reason to believe Hawk will be a solid player for many years. This Maybin kid could be the guy to take this year. He's durable, plays in a rough conference, wants to get better (attitude), is 6-4, 250lbs, runs a 4.59, is only 21, and just so happens fills a big need on defense. This guy has the potential to be another Sean Merriman and would be an excellent book-end with Kampman. TT's only blemish might be Harrell and maybe trading down the 1st from last year. TT resume for 1st round picks so far probably puts him up there with the best GM's in the league and we're not even talkin about the gems selected in rounds 2,3,4....
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#10 Apr 13, 2009
wal0645 wrote:
Well Eric; I believe in just about anything you have written. I too believe both Rogers and Hawk will go down as pretty good 1st round picks. Rogers just landed in our laps and thank God we are fortunate to have a quality QB for the next 10 plus years.....man, are we spoiled!!!! So in four drafts, there are probably two quality picks. I also believe TT will hit gold this year with the 9th. The drafts, trades, FA's, and money management points you allude are all excellent examples of a guy that knows how to run an organization. TT isn't perfect, but has hit winners more than most GM's.
Guess what? The FACT is that all that stuff amounted to 2 wins outside our division, a losing record and 1 playoff appearance.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#11 Apr 13, 2009
Wheeeeeeeeee! Eric and Wal believe in Ted. The 2 of you should buy yourselves crowns to wear. You are both king suck ups. You both really need to start caring more about the Packers and less about your boyfriend, the fudge packer.

Guess what? The FACT is that TT led the Pack to 2 wins outside our division, a losing record and 1 playoff appearance.
eric

Marshfield, WI

#12 Apr 13, 2009
GBPfan talks about what Ted does wrong,but,how about Teds picks in the middle which has done well.
Im not sure where they are going,but,if that failed test drops Raji back,Ted might think on it seriously.Although if Raji is smoking hippy lettuce now in Boston,what will he do in Feb.if hes living in GB and there's nothing to do?
wal0645

Yorktown, VA

#13 Apr 13, 2009
So GBPfan, what would you consider a successful campaign for 2009; 10 wins, 12, winning the SB? Secondly; when is a GM considered in your humble opinion to have had a successful season?
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#14 Apr 14, 2009
wal0645 wrote:
So GBPfan, what would you consider a successful campaign for 2009; 10 wins, 12, winning the SB? Secondly; when is a GM considered in your humble opinion to have had a successful season?
A successful season? Ordinarily, at a minimum a winning record and a playoff appearance. Considering TT's past failure, he would need to, at a minimum, duplicate 2007's accomplishments in order to prove that he had anything to do with that fluke season.

I would ask you the same thing, but I don't need to. It is obvious that you consider a "successful campaign" to be a losing record and missing the playoffs. Just how many losses does it take before you believe a GM has failed? 12? 14?
wal0645

Yorktown, VA

#15 Apr 14, 2009
Thanks GBPfan. I did some checking since the 2006 season, and over 50% of the teams in the league have either made the playoffs only once or not at all (many have not made it at all). Duplicating 2007 and winning 13 games is a reach for any team so that is a bit unrealistic. So, based on your criterion, over half of the GM's in the league suck and should be fired? Can you give me a head count on how many GM's have actually been fired since 2006? What percentage would you estimate? I would wager the percentage is very low for GM's compared with coaches. These other teams mentioned above have owners that invest millions of dollars in their teams; these are very business savvy folks that know what their doing. But, I don't hear many reports of GM's being let go except for obvious idiots like Mac Mullen in Detroit. But you, a mere fan, seem to have greater insight than these owners????
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#16 Apr 14, 2009
Thanks Wal. I knew you would:

1. Distort my answer, and

2. Be too gutless to answer my question.

By the way idiot, TT has been in the league since 2005. Give me the name of even one GM with a record no better than TTs that deserves to still have their job. I'm sure you will be too chicken to do this also.
wal0645

Yorktown, VA

#17 Apr 14, 2009
Not distorting your answers, but just giving you facts that you can look up for yourself. Even if you count 2005 when most everyone admits the Pack was in a mess talent-wise and salary cap wise which led to Sherman being removed from the GM duties by the folks who run the team. I've got news for you mere fan, you don't get to determine who deserves to go or stay, but the owners of these teams do and most haven't pulled the trigger on their GM's. My bad for calling Mac Mullen an idiot because he had to have smarts to get the job in the first place. Do you have any ideal what a GM in the NFL is paid? This is an executive salary mere fan. Basically, you, I, and everyone who post only have opinions and really don't know what being a GM really is. You can write all the silliness you want, but it won't change anything really in Packer management.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#18 Apr 14, 2009
You can write all the silliness and distortions you want to, but until you can come up with the name of at least one other GM, nobody will listen to an ignorant coward like you.

Oh, and again, how many losses does it take until you believe that a GM has failed?

Go ahead, and refuse to answer AGAIN. Every time you do, it says to me that you are admitting that you are nothing but a mindless cheerleader and hypocrit who knows little about professional football.

GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#19 Apr 15, 2009
wal0645 wrote:
So GBPfan, what would you consider a successful campaign for 2009; 10 wins, 12, winning the SB? Secondly; when is a GM considered in your humble opinion to have had a successful season?
I answered these questions for you. How about answering your own questions for me?

You know that the Packers have one of the easiest schedules in the NFL, don't you? Plus even more of the team are TTs players than in 2007. So I'm sure you would agree that TT should easily surpass 2007 accomplishments, right? I'm sure you wouldn't give the credit for 2007 to the Packer players that were in GB prior to TT. TT deserves the credit right? So at least 13 wins and a Superbowl appearance are very reasonable expectations of our genius GM, wouldn't you say?

If not, why not? Not that I expect your ignorant, hypocrital, cowardly ass to answer your own questions!
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#20 Apr 15, 2009
For all the so-called Packer fans that love TT and claim that TT deserves the credit for 2007 and that last year was just a fluke or a hiccup: please explain to the TT haters that the Packers will easily win 13 games and go to the Superbowl, especially since the Packers have one of the easiest schedules in the NFL.

Please don't let me down. If you don't explain this to the haters, they will know that you really don't believe in TT and that you all are just bull shitters. If you can't really defend TT, at least come up with some early excuses about why he is going to fail. Please help!

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