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Colts clinch AFC South, first-round bye with win

There are 139 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Dec 16, 2007, titled Colts clinch AFC South, first-round bye with win. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Peyton Manning hit wide receiver Anthony Gonzalez with a 20-yard touchdown pass with 4:49 to play Sunday to give the Indianapolis Colts a 21-14 victory over stubborn Oakland at McAfee Coliseum.

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the NFL is fixed

Cincinnati, OH

#133 Dec 17, 2007
Go Blue wrote:
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Check me if I am wrong, KEITH, but how many pro-bowl players were on the bench for New England against the RAVENS/EAGLES/JETS. Uh-huh...NONE. The Patriots, who really lost against the Ravens, have EVERYONE and they can only get by a team that was beaten by the 0-13 Dolphins because of a bogus pass interference penalty on 4th down.
As for Jacksonville, they had 2 shots to beat us...DENIED. You see Keith, last year taught me and many of our fans it does not matter what you do in a certain game (i.e. Jacksonville's 500 rushing yards in week 13), but only WHO you are playing, and HOW you are playing in January. That is what matters.
Hey KEITH, stick to basketball, you obviously have NO CLUE about FUT'BOL!!
Pro-bowl players are determined by fan voting, nothing more nothing less. useless stat, imho.
Funny you call the PI call against the Ravens bogus, but on Nov 4th, the Colts entire offense, save for one Addai run, was based on bogus PI calls. Without bogus PI calls, the Colts don't even have a superbowl from last year. Save it clown, unless you're willing to acknowledge the help your team has received the last 2 years.

By your logic, the Eagles should be in the playoffs, since they almost beat the Pats, and beat the Cowboys yesterday, huh?
It's the NFL! Teams win & lose some inexplicable games. Luckily for the Pats, their bad games are still W's.

Is Tampa peaking because they smashed Atlanta 34-3, while you guys fell behind 10-0 to the Falcons?
DO you guys suck because you should have lost to KC, who's losing streak is as bad as Baltimore's?
How about that near loss to Oakland, where the Colts got away with some extra contact against the Oakland receiver on 4th down? You were missing player's on defense, but only put up 1 offensive td. Does that mean you suck?

You're not the only team facing injuries, even though the media would have you believe that.

Pats: Colvin (starting lb) out to IR, Morris (starting rb) out to IR, Watson (starting te) bad ankle all season, Adalius Thomas (starting lb) bad ankle, Neal (starting o-line) missed a few games, Wilson (starting safety) missed games, Seymour (starting de) missed games and still recovering from major knee surgery, and that's just off the top of my head.

So cry all you want about your excuses for losing a couple, and playing other teams closer than you should, but don't ignore those very same excuses when they apply to other teams. Especially when the 'other' team is 14-0 and doesn't need any excuses.
the NFL is fixed

Cincinnati, OH

#134 Dec 17, 2007
As far as who's the better running team, check the stats.
Despite being the runaway leader in passing yards, the Pats still average more rushing ypg than the Colts.
Despite being 'old & slow' the Pats defense, still gives up less rushing ypg than the Colts.

Not to mention our hardest running rb, Sammy Morris, was lost for the season in week 6. How smart would it be to pound the ball on the ground every week knowing that all you have is Maroney & pass catching specialist, Faulk as your remaining rb's on the roster?

Despite all that, the Pats are statistically better at running the ball than the beloved Colts.

“Just sorting it out.”

Since: Mar 07

Indianapolis

#135 Dec 17, 2007
the NFL is fixed wrote:
As far as who's the better running team, check the stats.
Despite being the runaway leader in passing yards, the Pats still average more rushing ypg than the Colts.
Despite being 'old & slow' the Pats defense, still gives up less rushing ypg than the Colts.
Not to mention our hardest running rb, Sammy Morris, was lost for the season in week 6. How smart would it be to pound the ball on the ground every week knowing that all you have is Maroney & pass catching specialist, Faulk as your remaining rb's on the roster?
Despite all that, the Pats are statistically better at running the ball than the beloved Colts.
...better at running the ball by four yards per game. That's not really much of an advantage. The Pats are WAY out in front in terms of passing offense, which is why a bad weather re-match (which is too far down the road to consider) would probably help the Colts more than hurt them, since NE would have to pound the ball more. I'm not saying the Pats can't find success running the ball, but their passing game is the bread-and-butter of the offense.

In terms of stopping the run, true, NE is better. But it's worth noting the Colts have played five of the top six AFC rushing teams (Jags twice), while the Pats have only played two of those top six.

My only point there is the Colts have had to face stiffer rushing teams than New England, thus far.

Nevertheless, the Pats are without a doubt the best team in football by a mile. They could very well go 19-0.
Maxx

Pineville, LA

#136 Dec 17, 2007
Our Time wrote:
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Wouldn't it be funny if there was another freak weather day come January 19/20 when the Colts visit MA. It happened last year when the Colts went to Baltimore. And I think it happened one year when they went to Arrowhead Stadium, too.
It would be great to see the Colts beat the Pats under such conditions.
That would end the argument from some people that the Colts can't win when playing in that type of weather.
Kreacher

Worcester, MA

#137 Dec 17, 2007
Our Time wrote:
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Yer all mixed up. I'm a Hoosier, and I root for the Colts.
Unless the 6 seed upsets the 3 seed in the wild card round, the 3 seed (currently Pittsburgh) will play Indy in the divisional round, and the winner of the other wild card game between the 4 & 5 seeds will go to NE.
Steelers have dropped to #4 from what I am seeing, no?
Kreacher

Worcester, MA

#138 Dec 17, 2007
Go Blue wrote:
Remember 2 years ago?
Colts this, Colts that...Colts will win it all. Peyton breaks Marino's record, CROWN THEIR ***. Stokley/Reggie/Marvin/Edge/Man ning....1st round bye...everyone healthy....OOOOOPS! Lost in the first round...the 'under the radar' Steelers go on to win it all.
Remeber last year?
Chargers this, Chargers that...Chargers will win it all, LT breaks records, CROWN THEIR *** OOPS...Lost in the first round...the 'under the radar' worst rushing defense in the NFL, Colts win it all.
Hmmmmm...this year?
Patriots this, Patriots that Brady breaks a record?? Moss breaks a recors?? How about other records being broken? Brady/Moss/Stallworth/Welker/M aroney Everyone healthy....could it be another...OOOOOOOOOOPS?
If I were a Patriots fan, I would sure hope that the #3 seed goes down, because the Jags look pretty darn good. I actually hope (if Indy can get by whoever we will play) the Patriots beat the Jags. I would rather play the Pats than the Jags...
You'd rather play on the road than at home? That's a lie.

Since: Oct 07

Camby

#139 Dec 17, 2007
the NFL is fixed wrote:
Pro-bowl players are determined by fan voting, nothing more nothing less. useless stat, imho.
Ok...agreed. Useless stat. Then, my statement STANDS if I would say, how many STAR players were out. FACT still remains that NONE of the Patriots were injured during this year. If you want to count Seymour, well, fine...but would you rather have Seymour or Freeney? Enough said.
the NFL is fixed wrote:
Funny you call the PI call against the Ravens bogus, but on Nov 4th, the Colts entire offense, save for one Addai run, was based on bogus PI calls. Without bogus PI calls, the Colts don't even have a superbowl from last year. Save it clown, unless you're willing to acknowledge the help your team has received the last 2 years.
Here we see again, the Kool-Aid drinking Pats fan. In your mind, the only reason the Colts win is based on favorable calls, and the Patriots have NEVER had ANY favorable calls. The Patriots are the ONLY team that has won despite calls ALWAYS going against them, and FOR their opponents. Look, A**-Clown, were there some VERY questionable Pass Interference calls during the November 4th game? Yes there were. I have never disputed that. you see, I don't drink Kool-Aid, I call them as I see them. But it is interesting you mention NOTHING of the multiple holding calls the Patriots offensive line was NEVER called for during that game as well. Of course, in your slanted view, those were not holds, legitimate.
And by the way, the colts won a Super Bowl by coming back from the LARGEST deficit in championship HISTORY. If your defense last year could have stopped Peyton on the last drive, or if Brady could have completed that 3rd down pass with 2 minutes and change left, you could still be saying that Peyton is a choker...instead, Peyton lead his team 80 yards in just over 1 minute to score a TD. Of course, if that would have been Brady, you would be singing the praises of a QB that is poised and is the best ever...but since it was Manning, it was all due to the refs. Your cherry kool-aid mustache is showing...
the NFL is fixed wrote:
By your logic, the Eagles should be in the playoffs, since they almost beat the Pats, and beat the Cowboys yesterday, huh?
Uh...NO. Again, wipe the kool-aid mustache off and have a conversation that people can understand. If you would read, I said it only matters HOW you play in January...not who you beat, or get beat by in November.
the NFL is fixed wrote:
It's the NFL! Teams win & lose some inexplicable games. Luckily for the Pats, their bad games are still W's.
Is Tampa peaking because they smashed Atlanta 34-3, while you guys fell behind 10-0 to the Falcons?
DO you guys suck because you should have lost to KC, who's losing streak is as bad as Baltimore's?
How about that near loss to Oakland, where the Colts got away with some extra contact against the Oakland receiver on 4th down? You were missing player's on defense, but only put up 1 offensive td. Does that mean you suck?
Wait, you just say that the tough games the Pats won 'are still W's' and then you go on to rail against the Colts because they have won some close games, JUST LIKE THE PATRIOTS. Just like you said...Philadelphia...how much were the Pats behind them in the 2nd and 3rd quarter? Does that mean they suck? How were you behind the Ravens most of the game? Does that mean YOU suck? Again...napkin would be good here.

Since: Oct 07

Camby

#140 Dec 17, 2007
the NFL is fixed wrote:
You're not the only team facing injuries, even though the media would have you believe that.
Pats: Colvin (starting lb) out to IR, Morris (starting rb) out to IR, Watson (starting te) bad ankle all season, Adalius Thomas (starting lb) bad ankle, Neal (starting o-line) missed a few games, Wilson (starting safety) missed games, Seymour (starting de) missed games and still recovering from major knee surgery, and that's just off the top of my head.
Touche! A very good point. But how good would New England be without Moss? We don't know, we will never know, but I will take our record of 12-2 with Freeney, Morris and Harrison on the bench!
the NFL is fixed wrote:
So cry all you want about your excuses for losing a couple, and playing other teams closer than you should, but don't ignore those very same excuses when they apply to other teams. Especially when the 'other' team is 14-0 and doesn't need any excuses.
I am not sure where you get the crying, but that is exactly what YOU are doing. Again, if you could read, or at least remove the crab from your eyes, you may see that I have been saying, ALL ALONG, it does not matter until January. The Pats are 14-0 and they are the best in the NFL, PERIOD. Until someone beats them, if that happens, they will be the team to beat.
Instead of being a kool-aid drinking leming, have an intelligent conversation and quit toeing the line of Patriot talking points. Are the pats the best in the nfl? Yes. Will they be the best ever? Very possible...and if they win the Super Bowl and go 19-0, I will be able to tell my children and grandchildren someday that I watched all of this happen at the RCA Dome during that year...same holds true if the Colts would happen to upset them in Foxborough in January and ruin their perfect season. This has been some of the best football any of us have ever witnessed, and instead of whining about calls during any game, from you or I, we should call this what it is, history in the making.

Since: Oct 07

Camby

#141 Dec 17, 2007
Kreacher wrote:
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Steelers have dropped to #4 from what I am seeing, no?
After yesterday...that is correct!

Since: Oct 07

Camby

#142 Dec 17, 2007
Kreacher wrote:
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You'd rather play on the road than at home? That's a lie.
Nope...I would not RATHER play on the road...but the Colts have beaten the Pats the past 2 times we have been at your house. Rather be here, but want a win, no matter where it is played.
jessie

United States

#143 Dec 17, 2007
I have to take note with running back Keith. Now you may remember the play in question. It was a pass play and keith should have stayed on the left side but for some reason he moved over to the right , in the meantime a defensive player untouched came thru on the left where Keith had been. I dont remember , I think manning took a sack , at least he was pressured into incomplete. If Keith is in there on a pass play he has to at least do his job and if he cant block at least get in the way. I saw manning talking to Keith after the play and I dont think he was inviting him to dinner.

Since: Oct 07

Indianapolis

#144 Dec 17, 2007
missing wrote:
OK, it's been over a week...where's Mike Chappell? He hasn't written anything since before last week's game. We miss him!
Read the last line in Peter King's MMQB. Thoughts and prayers go out to Mr. Chappell and his family.
Kreacher

Lowell, MA

#145 Dec 17, 2007
Go Blue wrote:
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Nope...I would not RATHER play on the road...but the Colts have beaten the Pats the past 2 times we have been at your house. Rather be here, but want a win, no matter where it is played.
Understood! However your previous post said you would rather play the Pats than the Jags. If you play the Pats, you are on the road. If you play the Jags you are at home. So my question is would you really rather play the Pats than the Jags?

If you would rather play the Pats then that says a lot about the Jags. Which I just don't see frankly. I understand they are playing what seems to be great ball right now but look who they've defeated and look who they've lost to. I am not that impressed. Trust me, you want the Pats to lose so you can play them at home. I don't think it's going to happen, but that's what I would want if I were a Colts' fan.

Good luck.

“Just sorting it out.”

Since: Mar 07

Indianapolis

#146 Dec 17, 2007
Kreacher wrote:
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Understood! However your previous post said you would rather play the Pats than the Jags. If you play the Pats, you are on the road. If you play the Jags you are at home. So my question is would you really rather play the Pats than the Jags?
If you would rather play the Pats then that says a lot about the Jags. Which I just don't see frankly. I understand they are playing what seems to be great ball right now but look who they've defeated and look who they've lost to. I am not that impressed. Trust me, you want the Pats to lose so you can play them at home. I don't think it's going to happen, but that's what I would want if I were a Colts' fan.
Good luck.
Home is always better than on the road. But I can understand the logic behind wanting to avoid the Jags at this point in the season. They're team that is out for BLOOD whenever they play the Colts. And they've got a running game that absolutely torches Indy's defense.

It's hard enough to beat a team twice in one season. But three times? You're just asking for trouble there.

Of course, choosing between going against either the Pats or the Jags is like choosing between contracting syph or gonorrhea. Neither experience will be very pleasant.:-)
Kreacher

Worcester, MA

#147 Dec 17, 2007
K-Mac wrote:
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Home is always better than on the road. But I can understand the logic behind wanting to avoid the Jags at this point in the season. They're team that is out for BLOOD whenever they play the Colts. And they've got a running game that absolutely torches Indy's defense.
It's hard enough to beat a team twice in one season. But three times? You're just asking for trouble there.
Of course, choosing between going against either the Pats or the Jags is like choosing between contracting syph or gonorrhea. Neither experience will be very pleasant.:-)
I like it!!:)
Our Time

Warwick, MA

#148 Dec 17, 2007
Kreacher wrote:
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Steelers have dropped to #4 from what I am seeing, no?
Yeah, it looks like SD, which now has the same W-L record as Pitt, would get the #3 seed on the best record in the conference tie-breaker.

So, with two weeks left to play,#1, 2, & 5 are all locked in, while SD, Pitt, and Cleveland still have a lot of jockeying left to do. SD will either have the #3 or the #4 seed. But Pitt and Cleve could finish #3,#4, or #6, or fall out completely, in the unlikely event one of them loses both of their remaining games, while TN wins out.

skidrow wilson

Glendale, CA

#149 Dec 17, 2007
K-Mac wrote:
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Of course, choosing between going against either the Pats or the Jags is like choosing between contracting syph or gonorrhea. Neither experience will be very pleasant.:-)
...you do sound like the typical hoosier...btw...hoosier daddy?

“Just sorting it out.”

Since: Mar 07

Indianapolis

#150 Dec 18, 2007
skidrow wilson wrote:
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...you do sound like the typical hoosier...btw...hoosier daddy?
I'm not sure what you even mean. I was paraphrasing a line from former NHL coach (and current CBC hockey analyst) Don Cherry, who's from Canada, by the way.

So much for you're "typical Hoosier" reference.
the NFL is fixed

Cincinnati, OH

#151 Dec 19, 2007
Go Blue wrote:
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Ok...agreed. Useless stat. Then, my statement STANDS if I would say, how many STAR players were out. FACT still remains that NONE of the Patriots were injured during this year. If you want to count Seymour, well, fine...but would you rather have Seymour or Freeney? Enough said.
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Here we see again, the Kool-Aid drinking Pats fan. In your mind, the only reason the Colts win is based on favorable calls, and the Patriots have NEVER had ANY favorable calls. The Patriots are the ONLY team that has won despite calls ALWAYS going against them, and FOR their opponents. Look, A**-Clown, were there some VERY questionable Pass Interference calls during the November 4th game? Yes there were. I have never disputed that. you see, I don't drink Kool-Aid, I call them as I see them. But it is interesting you mention NOTHING of the multiple holding calls the Patriots offensive line was NEVER called for during that game as well. Of course, in your slanted view, those were not holds, legitimate.
And by the way, the colts won a Super Bowl by coming back from the LARGEST deficit in championship HISTORY. If your defense last year could have stopped Peyton on the last drive, or if Brady could have completed that 3rd down pass with 2 minutes and change left, you could still be saying that Peyton is a choker...instead, Peyton lead his team 80 yards in just over 1 minute to score a TD. Of course, if that would have been Brady, you would be singing the praises of a QB that is poised and is the best ever...but since it was Manning, it was all due to the refs. Your cherry kool-aid mustache is showing...
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Uh...NO. Again, wipe the kool-aid mustache off and have a conversation that people can understand. If you would read, I said it only matters HOW you play in January...not who you beat, or get beat by in November.
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Wait, you just say that the tough games the Pats won 'are still W's' and then you go on to rail against the Colts because they have won some close games, JUST LIKE THE PATRIOTS. Just like you said...Philadelphia...how much were the Pats behind them in the 2nd and 3rd quarter? Does that mean they suck? How were you behind the Ravens most of the game? Does that mean YOU suck? Again...napkin would be good here.
I'll take Seymour over Freeney 7 days a week, and twice on Sunday. Keep your 1 dimensional 4-3 DE, pass rushing specialist. I'll take our 3-4, pass and run stopping, multi dimensional DL.

Funny, you mention holding calls against the Pats. The Colts o-line was called for 1 holding call in the 11/4 game. Seriously, I don't need to even mention how often they hold pass rushers. Hell, there's holding on every snap in the NFL, but the Colts are the least penalized team in the NFL when it comes to holding. Gimme a break.
I listed a slew of vital Patriot players, and the best you can come up with is Harrison & Seymour? Not the best counterpoint in all honesty. The Pats w/o Moss, Welker, Stallworth, Morris went to the AFCCG. I think we know how good they are w/o that many weapons.

Keep enjoying the blatant, bogus officiating that always seems to go the Colts way lately. You must still be mad the Colts managed to screw up the 2005 playoff game the refs tried to give you guys as well.

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