Colts scour combine for talent that f...

Colts scour combine for talent that fits plan

There are 35 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Feb 20, 2008, titled Colts scour combine for talent that fits plan. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

The Indianapolis Colts' blueprint for success is like most teams': Maximize the NFL draft and the subsequent free agent signing period.

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ohh

United States

#21 Feb 21, 2008
Lucky, you can't be serious. I'M looking for a fight? Your initial post listed almost every previous poster and then nitpicked what they each had to say. Again, get over yourself. And by the way, there are most definitely special teams starters, and many of them are compensated handsomely for it. I really don't think its that big of a deal, but your being a p-rick about it.
duh

Indianapolis, IN

#22 Feb 21, 2008
Mr Obvious wrote:
Did the article reference how no colts player had played a down for another team and then mention Vinatieri and his tenure in New England...
I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I see a bit of a contradiction there.
The article was referring to the 11 starters on offense and the 11 on defense which equals to 22.
nelson

Collierville, TN

#23 Feb 21, 2008
[QUOTE While it is possible, it is not a sure thing or maybe even likely that we would draft someone this year on first round who would play better than Ugoh did last year.
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no 1st rd pix for the Colts. gave it to SF for ugoh pick
Lucky Horseshoe

Fresh Meadows, NY

#24 Feb 22, 2008
Jopa-N I understand but seriously, we are having to risk losing a starter from our OL and a member of the DL rotation, as well as approach Peyton and Marvin about restructuring their contracts just to get under the cap. So who else would you like to let go in order to sign someone? The cap is a zero sum game. You want to bring someone's cap number in, someone else's cap number has to go. As for Chad "look at me" Johnson, do you really think this team would bring in a selfish showboating player like him? And who do you bench to play him? Wayne is our best receiver, Gonzo is up and coming so no sense retarding his proegress and Marvin is a H-o-F player so if he is healthy, they wont insult him. We just made Clark the highest paid TE in history so we arent likely to bench him too often for a 4WR setIt is my opinion, for better or worse, that our offensive strategy has changed and we are not looking to be a quick strike, big stat offense any longer. I think during our super bowl year we intentionally decided to stretch out our time of possession to aid our defense and keep them rested and reduce pressure on them. We have plenty of offensive weapons if they are all back healthy. Also I dont think DUngy, Polian or even Manning care about 18-0, breaking Pats records or anything except winning it all. How many times in Peyton's record setting year did he settle for an Edge TD instead of forcing a throw to up the record? Not better or worse but definitely a different personality from last year's Patriots.
not yet

Newark, OH

#25 Feb 22, 2008
Although pricey free agents may sell tickets or get you on Sportscenter the real backbone of teams are the guys drafted in rounds 2 through 5.The good teams all have stars, but the championship teams have solid players up and down the lineup.Drafting good solid players in the middle rounds of the draft gives teams the ability to let player who become free agents leave if they demand money that does not fit in the teams plans.Champions are built top to bottem not from signing a couple big name overpriced free agents.
Jopa-n

Scipio Center, NY

#26 Feb 22, 2008
not yet wrote:
Although pricey free agents may sell tickets or get you on Sportscenter the real backbone of teams are the guys drafted in rounds 2 through 5.The good teams all have stars, but the championship teams have solid players up and down the lineup.Drafting good solid players in the middle rounds of the draft gives teams the ability to let player who become free agents leave if they demand money that does not fit in the teams plans.Champions are built top to bottem not from signing a couple big name overpriced free agents.
If Peyton and Marvin are in the 1st or 2nd year, I agree, take the time to build a stong base of young talent through the draft. This team though, has some big time players that are coming down the stretch of their careers so to speak. They just need that little push to get them over the top. Draft picks, while a better long term investment, take time to mature into what they need to be. Many times, what happens is a group of players blossom at different times in their careers, so you end up with a team thats stong in one area, only to be weak in another. By the time the other areas are brought up to speed, the strong areas are now weaker. Some Steeler fans for example, think they can go out and draft a stud offensive line. That takes time, it can take up to 5 good drafts before you see the fruits of drafting come together.
not yet

Newark, OH

#27 Feb 22, 2008
One or two veteran free agents would be nice but with the Colts salary structure you have to lose a couple of people to be able to sign even aa mid-level free agent.Keep drafting lineman(offensive and defensive)and linebackers that are good athelets and fit the systems you play.Free agents that will really help are going to be overpaid by the bottom of the NFL teams trying to make drastic improvements.There is though one class of free agents the Colts should be on the look for.The teams with new coaches will be getting rid of players that don't fit the new system.This is where a possible free agent can be had for a reasonable price.
Mr Obvious

Carmel, IN

#28 Feb 22, 2008
mRS oBVIOUS wrote:
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"Not one of their 22 starters in the divisional playoff loss to San Diego had played a single down for another team, the first time a playoff participant could make that claim since the 1990 season."
Read the Star quote again. Emphasis on 22 starters ...
Sorry, i thought Vinatieri started... technicalities
Lucky Horseshoe

United States

#29 Feb 23, 2008
Everyone who has commented on your post agrees that you are off base. Every one else recognized what was being said in the article. Everyone else understood what Chappy was saying. You seem to be able to compose your thoughts well enough to rule out that you are just an idiot so I assume that you were just using sophistry to make up a criticism where there really isnt cause for any. You want to burn Chappy over what you see as a mistake but when folks point out that you are wrong, you call it merely "technicalities". You think you are entitled to nitpick Chappy's work but are incensed that I would nitpick yours. Not very equitable, ya think?

As for my "nitpicking", that is your word. I am entitled to my opinion and I dont need to apologize for offering it as that is what this site and others like it are for. I didnt hate on anyone, I just responded to their opinion with my own.
Lucky Horseshoe

United States

#30 Feb 23, 2008
nelson wrote:
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no 1st rd pix for the Colts. gave it to SF for ugoh pick
Nellson - that was my point. I was responding to a post lamenting that we had no first rounder and I was saying to let that go because we used this years first rounder on Ugoh and he played as well as anyone we would be likely to get this year at that slot.

Since: Jan 07

Indianapolis, IN

#31 Feb 23, 2008
Mr Obvious wrote:
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Sorry, i thought Vinatieri started... technicalities
I have been watching the posts you guys have been putting up about the trivial crap of whether A.V. is a starter or not and what the article meant.

Forget about A.V. being a starter. The article was correct. It SPECIFICALLY referred to 22 starters. You don't have to have a PHD to get that it was referring to the Offense and Defense. If it were to have included special teams in its point it would have done so.

Can we PULHLEEEEEEEZ, quit PICKING NITS and move on? Jeez, some people would just as soon argue with a fence post over totally meaningless crap. Grow up.
Fence Post

Scipio Center, NY

#32 Feb 23, 2008
I heard someone say there are few here looking for a good argument. Any takers?
Doorknob

Arcadia, IN

#33 Feb 25, 2008
Fence Post wrote:
I heard someone say there are few here looking for a good argument. Any takers?
Bring it on, foo.
Fence Post

United States

#34 Feb 25, 2008
You don't want me to bring it all- NOT YET
Mr Obvious

Carmel, IN

#35 Mar 6, 2008
sarcasm... i mean you colts fans are a sensitive bunch...yes, i know what the 22 starters referred to and I am impressed by the efficiency of the draft classes under (Ne)Polian...

The colts have pretty much allowed Jake Scott to hit the bricks, meaning Dylan Gandy and Charlie Johnson (who would move from Tackle to Guard) will have to compete for the starting job...So they may have to draft offensive line with their first pick to solidify depth as Scott backed up at tackle and guard...Oniel Cousins from UTEP has been slotted with the second round pick in some publications...Although I liked Carl Nicks from Nebraska better as he is more of a physical right tackle prospect who could backup Diem and Lilja on the right side...

I see the Colts draft targets as RB, DE, DT, LB, CB, WR, G/T...They will get a handful of supplementary/compensation picks for losing a bunch of free agents last season, so they will have to hit it big on day 2...

My sleeper pick would be Kendal Langford of Hampton...6'6 295lb DE who ran in the 4.8 range who would play DE on running downs and kick inside to the 3 technique on passing downs giving the colts a chance to play Mathis as a pass rush specialist and tighten up the run defense... Should be available in round 2 and maybe an outside shot of him being there in round 3... The Colts have had success with small school products in the past and he would be a nice fit...

Look for a big receiver to get picked up at the end of the draft like JAMES BANKS Carson Newman/Ben Davis, SELWYN LYMON Purdue or D'CODY FAGG from Florida State to replace Moorehead in the offense...All of these guys should be available at the end of the 6th or 7th round where the colts should have a 3 supplemental picks.

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