Giants' MVP: Could it be... Tiki?

Giants' MVP: Could it be... Tiki?

There are 36 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 15, 2008, titled Giants' MVP: Could it be... Tiki?. In it, Newsday reports that:

Tiki, take a bow. If the Giants and their fans - this includes the ones in the stands and the ones disguised as media members - are inclined to blame Tiki Barber for the team's woes last season, they have no ...

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Chatsworth, CA

#23 Jan 15, 2008
Enough with the Big Ben comparisons too. If you think we'd have a super bowl by now with Ben you'd be kidding yourselves. He came into a much better situation than Eli did. In 2005, Eli's first full year as a starter he averaged nearly 35 passes a game. Ben averaged 22 passes per game. Unlike the Giants in 05 the Steelers never abandoned the run and didn't put it all on Ben to win games. The Steelers had to win 3 games on the road to make it to the super bowl that year. Look at Bens numbers from the wild card and divisional games. Eerily similar to Eli's. Yet Ben was celebrated for it. There weren't many articles about the steelers oc begging Ben not to lose them the game. By the way...the Steelers won despite Ben in the Superbowl. He had the worst stats of an SB winning QB ever. 9/21 123 yards 42.9% comp. 0 td and 2 picks. He ran for td but he got lucky on that review. I think Ben is a terrific QB don't get me wrong but we've now made the playoffs for 3 straight seasons with Eli as our QB. His numbers have improved each game. Look it up. We could have won last year in Philly if our Tim Lewis led D doesn't lay down and let philly drive down the field while milking 5 minutes off the clock and kicking the game winner as time expired. Eli led the Gmen on an 80 yard drive culminating in an 11 yd td pass to Burress for the tie with 5 minutes to go. He never got the chance to go for the win because our D couldn't get him the ball back. This year has been different. How did Ben at home against Jacksonville?

Muskegon, MI

#24 Jan 15, 2008
Honestly, I think the giants play better without Barber and Shockey. Though as much as I like Strahan ... i believe if he was gone all the bull**** would be forgoten and lost. Just stick to football.

Montvale, NJ

#25 Jan 15, 2008
tiki is a know it all big mouth who doesnt like being told what to do, just shut your big teeth and listen to the coach

“Only in America...”

Since: Aug 07

United States

#26 Jan 15, 2008
Wally, again you show you ineptitude for writing a column that has any insight.

You talk about how ridiculous it was to blame the Giants poor showing last season on the circus YOU (the media) helped create and sustain surrounding Tiki's retirement announcement. But then you say that if you do believe that is the case, then you must believe that Tiki's Giant bashing from the preseason gave them a lift. Which do you actually believe Wally? Was Tiki the problem last year or not?

Anyway, the most obvious reason for a better season,(of which you didn't touch upon) is NOT Tiki's preseason comments, but the LACK of Tiki's attitude and negative energy that he brought to the locker room last year.
Remove the cancer...begin healing. That's what G-Men did this year.

Say what you will about Tiki, but he is not stupid. He was in the center of the circus that he and his future colleges in the media created, and he used that to not only increase his name recognition, but also prove to anyone looking to give him an analyst job, that he would not pull punches when speaking about the Giants, or any other team... Two pretty important things when you are trying to get a job on TV.
Yank Fan

Chesterfield, MO

#27 Jan 15, 2008
Phil in NJ wrote:
You say that nothing has changed from last year to this year, then write 4 paragraphs about things that have changed.
But the biggest thing that has changed has been the team chemistry. I don't believe that Tiki's comments in the media were responsible for the chemistry to develop; I believe it developed because the guys on the team didn't want a repeat of the chitchat from last year...chitchat that was led by none-other than Tiki Barber.
I agree I was a big Tiki fan until the mouth realy revved up.
He did the team a big favor by leaving. The Giants now play as a team.
Dr Gregg in Denver

Aurora, CO

#28 Jan 15, 2008
A few obvious reasons. IMO, the #1 reasons for the turnaround is Steve Spagnuolo. New defensive coordinator who is aggressive and turned basically trhe same personel that they had last year and in which their D was porous, to a pretty solid defense and one of the best pass rushing teams.

2. Coughlin seemed to lighten up a bit this year and it seems the players are responding. ANd just recently the offensive coordinator Gilbride has changed tactics to better fit the team. Run first, shorter passing routes for Eli, not expecting him to throw for 300+ yards every game. Just let him manage it.

3. Another year for Eli to mature.

United States

#29 Jan 15, 2008
Aren't we all sick of Tiki and his brother. Glad he's gone. We never one anything with him. He's doing the best thing sitting in the booth. Remember when he was crying on the sideline when he fumbled twn times against Philly. He's a crybaby and a joke.

Trezevant, TN

#30 Jan 15, 2008
Gotta agree with you Giant fans. What the hell does Tiki have to do with anything? His comments were an eon ago (even longer than week 2). Pointless column.
Rambo J


#31 Jan 18, 2008
Exactly right, little bald bed wetter can go straight to hell.
Smitty wrote:
Aren't we all sick of Tiki and his brother. Glad he's gone. We never one anything with him. He's doing the best thing sitting in the booth. Remember when he was crying on the sideline when he fumbled twn times against Philly. He's a crybaby and a joke.

Scottsdale, AZ

#32 Jan 21, 2008
There is no doubt in my mind Tiki was praying for Giant losses in every game of the season, playoffs, and now the superbowl. NBC ought to fire him. I am sure most change the channel once he start blabbering his "expertise." I sure do.

Dunellen, NJ

#33 Jan 21, 2008
Eli has outplayed Jeff Garcia, Mr. Jessica Simpson, and Old Man Favre.

The guy has become an elite QB in the playoffs. Zach is an idiot.
Hotty Toddy

Pinola, MS

#34 Jan 21, 2008
Eli is here...respect him and his teammates...they have accomplished something none of you will...they are in the freakin Super Bowl...and as far as Tiki and Shockley (whatever) are not and they suck!
Hotty Toddy!...GO GIANTS

Stafford, VA

#35 Jan 22, 2008
these statistics you refer to are pointless . 10-6 is better than 8-8 . therefore it is not the SAME team . tiki was basically a distraction from the time he announced his retirement plans . this team is far better off without his selfishness . i mean even in 2000 kerry collins , the defense and the special teams were primarily responsible for their playoff run .

United States

#36 Feb 4, 2008
TIKI now looks like a fool for having "retired" without obtaining winning the Superbowl prize.
What do you want to bet that he may come out of "retirement" next year ?
He looked Green with Envy when he was doing interviews. Manny Seau will be with NE next year, you can count on it...

Pacifica, CA

#37 Feb 6, 2008
Oh, of COURSE the Giants' resurgence had been motivated only by the great Tiki Barber's words. Let's all forget other factors, like, say, the Patriots' invitations to their victory parties before the game, Boston Herald's plans to release a "19-0" book before the Super Bowl, Shockey's absence, 17th week near-victory against the Pats, etc.
You seriously give this Tiki Barber person too much credit, methinks.
Phil L

Clifton, NJ

#38 Feb 7, 2008
zach - fl wrote:
In truth Amoni Toomer is their MVP and in a way Shockey since he left. It certainly is not Eli. If Accorsi feels good today, he is dreaming. Eli still is an average at best QB and in no way worth what he gave up. Ben already won a superbowl and Rivers is a great passer and has a chance for a superbowl - not to mention Shaun Merriman is also in the running for a superbowl. The last 2 games Eli had a chance to put the game away by getting a 1st down at the end and he failed each time. He could have easily run for a 1st down twice but did not. If not for their defense, they would have lost.

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