2014 Mock Draft: SBNation Projects Gr...

2014 Mock Draft: SBNation Projects Green Bay Packers to Pick ILB Ryan Shazier

There are 43 comments on the Acme Packing Company story from Jan 13, 2014, titled 2014 Mock Draft: SBNation Projects Green Bay Packers to Pick ILB Ryan Shazier. In it, Acme Packing Company reports that:

The Packers are projected to take a 4-3 linebacker prospect in SBNation's latest mock draft, as most of the players who would be ideal fits for the defense are off the board by the 21st pick.

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normallylikeyell ow

Altoona, PA

#1 Jan 13, 2014
First off, if 118 tackles and 5 sacks is "ordinary" (AJ Hawk), then most of the league is ordinary or worse. I'll take 3 more guys that can do that. And why is every draft pick suggestion these guys make not projected to play his best position (see Nick Perry--who said he didn't want to play LB)? There are good ILBs in rounds 2-4, we don't need to take a guy at 21 and shift himself inside and then ask him to gain weight. Somebody looked at the draft rankings, knew we needed an ILB and Shazier was the closest LB to 21. We could take a FS, maybe even Dix, who he rates too high, or if he is truly gone then Calvin Pryor is a steal at 21.
Second, I don't think the Pack will be able to resist Jace Amaro at 21 if he's there. You could make an argument that he would be the best available if still on the board.

eric

Verona, WI

#2 Jan 13, 2014
Can we see TT trade up for LB Mosley or Alabama Safety HaHa Clinton Dix?
I can actually see Ted doing that..
I read that Perry didnt want to play LB but on the same token, Mike Neal dropped that weight from 295 or so to 270 to play LB and for a 1st year,he didnt do to bad,,if he ( a gym rat from what was written) takes care of himself this offseason,he should improve next year and if they can land another OLB ( not just Robert F.) they can get away with trading Perry OR maybe he gains a few lbs he may make it on the Dline
Jeremy

Mooreton, ND

#3 Jan 13, 2014
The Defense starts up front and Raji was basically non existent all season. Jolly was an excellent boost to the line, and Daniels showed some solid progress along with Neal, but its not enough. I really think Green Bay needs a big athletic body on the line who can collapse the pocket and allow our linebackers to make plays. We NEED another Cullen Jenkins type player on the line, maybe they can search free agency also.
eric

Verona, WI

#4 Jan 13, 2014
We certainly could use another Cullen Jenkins..Thats why they drafted Jarel Worthy and Datone Jones.Who knows Jones is going into his 2nd season and Worthy basically is as well ( because of missing most of the season this year with the injury) so maybe one or both will develop that year 1 to year 2 type thing but i agree, maybe we can land one in FAcy. I hope Jolly gets cleared from the neck injury and comes back..Developing the front 7 will help the secondary for sure

Since: Feb 13

Appleton, WI

#5 Jan 14, 2014
I'm curious to see how free agency goes. I wouldn't be surprised if Ted actually changes his stripes for this year and lands a big one if it's a good fit. In fact, I have money riding on a signing with my son, and I'm not going to spill it here because everyone will say it won't happen (which it probably won't). But, if I am right, it will be the biggest FA signing in Packers history. Yes, bigger than Reggie White. That big.

Having said all that... as far as the draft goes, best player available at their first round slot, regardless of position. It's foolish to target a position at that point in the draft. That's how you end up with Christian Ponder (ouch, did I just say that?). Teams that draft for positional need in the first round are teams that end up with high picks year after year...
eric

Verona, WI

#6 Jan 14, 2014
Let us know who it is after he signs somewhere..I am interested,especially if its bigger the Reggie White ( by FAR, the biggest FA signing in Packer history).
I do agree with you 100% that Ted will go out this off season and sign a big FA. I have said many times here lately,there seems to be a lot more chatter about Ted going into FAcy and signing a FA or 2 from guys who cover the team,,there just seems to be more optimism and i think Ted knows the obvious.THey came very close to beating SF with 5 missing defensive starters and he knows the Safeties had no INTs,an upgrade at safety and an ILB who can cover can really make a nice difference and a few of the young guys like Mike Neal ( 1st year at OLB) will improve,you can see it as the year went on.Reading Neal would like to come back,,he lost 20Lbs or so to play OLB last year and is confident he can lose another 10-15 this offseason,( down to 260 or so)..He was a bit small for DE but seems to be a nice fit and maybe Datone Jones can go the same way..( lose 20 lbs from 285 to 265) to play OLB as well since Nick Perry stated he didnt want to play there ( although he has for 2 season,,missing much his rookie year due to injury,so it was really his 1st playing season as well) If they have confidence in Perry that hes ok with playing OLB,then hopefully Datone Jones makes that next step,,bulks up a bit..
MY QUESTION or worry is who is playing NT? Raji hasnt proved much the last few seasons but he falls in the Cutler category, there isnt alot of options out there,so,maybe Raji gets paid big from someone
normallylikeyell ow

Altoona, PA

#7 Jan 14, 2014
That's a legit worry, eric. I agree Neal did admirably at OLB. My point was why move a guy to a new position when there are good ILBs in the draft rds 1-4? It concerns me that Datone Jones is a first round pick and 3rd on the depth chart.
Im going to guess answerman is referring to Greg Hardy (referencing RW). He'd be a good addition. SB contenders? Eh... It'll certainly help. Jimmy Graham would be the other big name. I don't think we're meeting his price. Captain Munnerlyn? Now who wouldn't him on your team?
Linvall Joseph would be a decent pickup. Jason Worilds of PIT could start for us at OLB. Or if you are going the leadership route, Karlos Dansby is 32--while you draft and develop. He and Hawks would quite a combo on the inside.
eric

Verona, WI

#8 Jan 14, 2014
Id love to sign Byrd from Buffalo.I wonder if Kevin WIlliams has any miles left on him,theres a wide body who can play a year or 2 if Raji leaves.
Now realistically,,,,
Is there a chance that Mike Daniels 6 ft 300 or so
Jarel Worthy,,,302lb
or Josh Boyd 310
Can any of them bulk up 10-15 lbs of muscle to play NT
Ryan Pickett played some NT at 330-340 or so but in his mid 30s or so,do you want him starting at NT and the way they run subs,they need another one anyway.
I share your concern with Datone Jones but if you beleive in the year 1 to year 2 bulking up,maybe Jones can show up close to 300 OR would you rather him maybe drop to 265 and challenge Mike Neal at OLB.
We do need another DE ( or hope one of the guess above come in bulked up a bit) We def. need an ILB ( trade up for Mosley,,Alabama)
We need another safety and we could us another NT..Hopefully Jolly passes with the neck injury and can come back,he did a nice job although he did seem to flatten out later in the season,but, he has been out of football for 3 years, I have to admit, i love reading Mock drafts,although you really cant put a whole lot of stock in it but its still interesting to see who picks who,where and see in the end where folks end up.
normallylikeyell ow

State College, PA

#9 Jan 15, 2014
I can see Pickett accepting any reasonable offer, if they want him back. Josh Boyd looks the part (NT). I think Daniels plays better at this weight, personally. Quickness is his best asset. Worthy was drafted to play end. And Datone is a pass rusher, so yes, 3 months of steroids (let's be honest) will help, but something tells me strength isn't the only thing holding him back. DT is pretty deep in this draft. We got a guy here at Penn State who is very good: DaQuan Jones. He's projected third round. We'll know more after the all star games. I think we can get a NT later than round 1.
eric

Verona, WI

#10 Jan 15, 2014
If Pitts grabs The NT from Notre Dame,yea, we have a decent shot( although being in the late 3rd),they would have to reach a bit for Jones ( late 2nd,which is fine).
I do think the only way Pickett comes back is the vet. minimum ( which should be around 1M somewhere i would think,so still a very nice living).I thought originally they could sign Pickett for a million or 2 less and save a few million on his 5-6M cap number as he still draws double teams ( unlike Raji) but considering other things ( like they predict the market will be slower as the cap remains basically the same) so i can see Pickett taking 1M-2M to stay in GB rather then a few dollars more somewhere else,its been written more then a few times that Pickett,wife and kids love GB and he can be a nice depth play. I do wonder if they looked at Datone Jones at another KGB ( although KGB didnt produce as a FT DE but a 3rd down specialist, I cant not remember the kids name but hes a defensive end from Harvard,,he was 6 4 around 300 and the announcers kissed this guys ass big time and the few times i saw him on ESPN ( one of the off shoots station type thing) and Granted its the IVY league so the competition is lacking a bit but you cant teach quickness,speed and intelligence and or instinct and this kid seemed to have all of these and im sure he would go later in the draft ( of course we drafted Tretter Center/guard from an IVY league school as well,so its not unheard of). Just a thought, another 6 4 or so 300 lb DE and we have a few of them on the roster already but if it works out where TT just didnt have that shot at another DE in FA or the draft,the kid may be worth a look.
eric

Verona, WI

#11 Jan 15, 2014
I just ( in the past Minute ) found NFL Mock Draft Central ( again,how much stock do you or anyone put in to mock drafts but its fun to read anyway)..anyway
One guy as GB taking Haha Clinton-Dix and the other guy had them choosing Louis Nix NT Notre Dame,,
2 names that we chatted about ..
again,not that it means anything but still.

Since: Feb 13

Appleton, WI

#12 Jan 15, 2014
Of course a lot can change between now and the draft, but if Clinton-Dix is available I don't see the Packers passing on him. I don't think he will drop that far though.

I might have gone a little overboard with the Reggie White comparison, but I still think that my FA signing will be huge if it happens. NLY hit it... it is Jimmy Graham. Can you imagine adding him to the Packers offense? Hear me out as to how this works. the issue is that New Orleans will probably want to franchise him, but he is going to try everything in his power to get classified as a WR, not a TE. And the franchise number is completely different... something like $10.5 million for WR vs $6 million for TE. If he wins his battle to be classified as a WR, I don't see the Saints franchising him at that number. Hence, the open market, and an answer for the Jermichael Finley question.
eric

Verona, WI

#13 Jan 15, 2014
Thats ironic,,Finley did the same thing to GB..Finley complained hes more WR then TE,hence his 9-9,5M cap instead of maybe 6M,so yea if we signed him
I dont know if C-D would fall that far,but, if the Packers had to trade up for him,id prefer Mosley the LB instead.A stronger front 7 helps the secondary ( although our safeties suck from lack of experience and they overpaid bigtime for Burnett)
The only problem i can see with your Graham signing is,,if he does want WR money instead of TE money ( franchise wise) then he will want Finley money and im not sure if TT would go that way again with the defense needing some FA back there ( unless hes going back to the status quo of filling holes with draft picks like the past) then i can see him trying it out..Ron Wolf's biggest regret is not giving Favre enough weapons so maybe Ted will take a cue from that and load up weapons for the franchise qb. Its obvious you need a great defense to win the NFC title ( look at the SF/SEA matchup) You need defense to get out of the NFC.
Jeremy

Mooreton, ND

#14 Jan 15, 2014
Nelson, Cobb, Boykin, Quarless, and Jones are a great receiver core, better than Favre could imagine. Lacy has been a nice added weapon to open up the passing game, don't think we any weapons for Rodgers. Instead i would like Dietrich-Smith back, and get Bulaga healthy. The Lions front four absolutely dominated our line, not to mention Rodgers has been at the top or near the top for QB sacks. I wanna see Green Bay become a more physical team, were too soft. That starts on both sides of the lines IMO.
Laughing bear Fan

Denver, CO

#15 Jan 16, 2014
The thought of Rodgers running for his life behind a porous O-line fearing another broken collar-bone makes me laugh
normallylikeyell ow

Altoona, PA

#16 Jan 18, 2014
eric, were you referring to Caraun Reid of Princeton, maybe? I can't think of a Harvard NT. It would be off my draft radar. Reid's a mid-rounder. Probably not the size for the job. A good late round grab would Shamar Stephens of CT. I think he has a 5th round grade at the moment.
As tempting as Jimmy Graham sounds, I don't see it happening. He didn't help himself by disappearing in that playoff game either.
I agree that HaHa's a no-brainer if available. Calvin Pryor is also a good FS pick. I was serious about Jace Amaro (TE). The Pats will take him if we don't. Stephon Tuitt (DT) of ND is another option. And I think Shazier is posssibility too--I just don't think they're going to move him inside.
eric

Verona, WI

#17 Jan 18, 2014
I think your right..In fact I looked at the Harvard Roster and nothing rang a bell. I know he was a DE,so Yea, i think you were right on that one.
Actually, Since Graham disappeared, he may have dropped in value to a range TT would be willing to pay.
I do agree with you the Pats have to replace Gronk,so Amaro would do it for them nad i cant see Nix ( NT N.D.) getting past Pittsburgh and HaHa may just move up.
Tuitt is an interesting option. I think a real help would be if Boyd bulks up a few lbs and they resign Pickett as a depth play..Pick played NT last year and if Josh Boyd ( with his year under his belt) can bulk up a few lbs,then MAYBE they can concentrate on LB,Secondary TE or best available and worrry about NT later on.( huge gamble as we dont know how much Boyd at 310 can bulk up and really how big do you have to be to play NT,,is there really a fixed lb number?_) If the S and C staff are confident he can hit 320,,is a 6 3 320 NT a good thing? I believe so.( and most important,we can use the 6M cap ( or so) number that was BJ Raji and use the cash somewhere else).
normallylikeyell ow

Altoona, PA

#18 Jan 19, 2014
I think NT is about weight and anchor. Not getting moved out. It's a plus if you can get up field like Raji on occasion. That's what makes Wilfork so good.
This is mid to late round stuff, but I was impressed with two LBs in yesterday's all star games: Jeremiah George of Iowa St. and Shaun Lewis of Oklahoma St. George currently is rated 6-7 round and Lewis is FA, though yesterday might have changed that. I also thought Kyree Thornton of S. Miss. and Beau Allen (both DT) from Wisconsin played well. Neither is projected to be drafted, but again, yesterday might have changed that. Booboo Gates looks like a playmaker (S Bowling Green). Jimmy Garoppolo (QB) really looked good. He's gonna move up big time.
eric

Verona, WI

#19 Jan 19, 2014
I like Beau Allen,,I watched the Badgers many times and i dont remember Beau missing a game and at 6 3 325lb he seems a good size for NT.Wilfork is a great NT.I missed the game yesterday and i wished i watched it so i could be that much more informed and add that much more to the but conversation but watching a player over a season is a better judge,but, again,there are plenty of great players who play in these schools that not many people have even heard of and these type games are great for them to get some recognition
normallylikeyell ow

Altoona, PA

#20 Jan 20, 2014
It makes you appreciate how good and thorough scouts are. I guess in another life, I'd like to be one.
I like to watch the defensive guys because they basically have to play vanilla d--no stunts, blitzes, press--can't even cover 2! So if you make a play it means you made a play. Senior Bowl Saturday. Garoppolo plays in that too. It will be interesting to see how he does against better competition. I was impressed with him. Ball comes out quick and zip. Oakland and Cleveland ought to have a look.

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