As number of Marin markets grows, far...

As number of Marin markets grows, farmers feel the pinch

There are 41 comments on the Marin Independent Journal story from Feb 19, 2010, titled As number of Marin markets grows, farmers feel the pinch. In it, Marin Independent Journal reports that:

After seeing first hand how a farmers market transformed the Oakland neighborhood of Grand Lake, Kelly Smith was determined to bring one to the defunct grocery plaza at Marinwood.

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Phil

San Rafael, CA

#1 Feb 19, 2010
When Peak Oil hits your local farmers market will be the only place to get food that you don't grow yourself. Make friends with a food gardener. Their knowledge is going to be more valuable than anything else out there.
Wood Berry

Alamo, CA

#2 Feb 19, 2010
Marinwood Yes
What

Ross, CA

#3 Feb 19, 2010
What Tuesday market in San Rafael?
Also, "markets grows" really?!
BGHOZ

Hayward, CA

#4 Feb 19, 2010
Yes, I'm being a smart arz....illegal vegies...how bout that? Yikes! How does that work?
wtf

Mill Valley, CA

#5 Feb 20, 2010
They used to have this really good bread place at the Corte Madera Town Center Farmers Market, now they no longer show up there. A lot of the sellers said they do not like the General Manager there because he is rude to them.
Adam Smith

San Rafael, CA

#6 Feb 20, 2010
When Peak Oil hits, the only place you will get food is Safeway - the cost of delivering food to a farmer's market in a little panel truck is vastly higher than delivering it to Safeway in a semi.

On the other hand, Peak Oil is a myth too - there is so much recently discovered natural gas in the United States that no one now alive is going to see anything like "Peak Oil"

Sorry to burst your greenie bubble. Farmer's markets will never feed any significant fraction of the population - they exist only to allow small farmers on the edge of profitability to (partly) feed people with excess disposable income who need to feel good about themselves. I love farmer's markets, but I have no illusions about what they are.
Ovski

AOL

#7 Feb 20, 2010
The more farmers markets the better. Especially when they are located in neighborhoods. When you have just a few exclusive markets it's very difficult for poor and elderly to attend. By bringing the market to the people you save fuel and provide competition. Competition is good. Very good. It keeps businesses on their toes (in this case more and better produce at fair prices. It's far greener to bring the markets to the people too. Saves many trips. I would love to be able to walk to a market instead of driving to the civic center.
Common Progressive

San Rafael, CA

#8 Feb 20, 2010
SAN RAFAEL-Safeway spokesman, Susanna Flores, says that declining food prices are a result of too many supermarkets in Marin. "Too many farmers markets, neighborhood stores and competing supermarkets in the community are watering down our income and making it difficult to bring fresh wholesome food to the community. Adding insult to injury is a farmer's market that has invaded Marinwood Plaza which will further dilute our customer base and reduce prices" Safeway is a another victim of the growing trend of allowing businesses to thrive in the community.

"I have fewer customers than last year for my shriveled 1/2 pound of organic carrots for $5.00 a pound and my heirloom potatoes at $10.00 a pound" complains Sarah & Alex Johnson of Nicasio. " Where will people get their organic food when we can no longer make a living providing for the community".

Safeway, Marin Organic and others have asked for a special resolution from Marin Supervisors to ban future farmers markets and food establishments in Marin until the marketplace returns to normal levels.

Supervisor McGlashan promised to bring the measure for a vote and also add a 1% sales tax to support struggling Marin food providers.

-Business wire, Marin IJ
Pot Smoking Moronite

Pilot Hill, CA

#9 Feb 20, 2010
When will I be able to buy my "medicine" at these markets? After all, it is Moron County!
Liberal Turds

Mill Valley, CA

#10 Feb 20, 2010
I buy my produce from the Illegal Aliens standing on the corners in both the Glenwood and Woodland neighborhoods selling Oranges. Looking more and more like Tiajuana everyday. Liberalism is a Mental Disorder!
Homeless

United States

#11 Feb 20, 2010
I buy my vodka at the only store open at the Marinwood location, SavMore liquor. I need a place to buy my organic celery to garnish my Bloody Mary..Yes, on the farmers market.....
Free Market

Vallejo, CA

#12 Feb 20, 2010
Common Progressive wrote:
SAN RAFAEL-Safeway spokesman, Susanna Flores, says that declining food prices are a result of too many supermarkets in Marin. "Too many farmers markets, neighborhood stores and competing supermarkets in the community are watering down our income and making it difficult to bring fresh wholesome food to the community. Adding insult to injury is a farmer's market that has invaded Marinwood Plaza which will further dilute our customer base and reduce prices" Safeway is a another victim of the growing trend of allowing businesses to thrive in the community.
"I have fewer customers than last year for my shriveled 1/2 pound of organic carrots for $5.00 a pound and my heirloom potatoes at $10.00 a pound" complains Sarah & Alex Johnson of Nicasio. " Where will people get their organic food when we can no longer make a living providing for the community".
Safeway, Marin Organic and others have asked for a special resolution from Marin Supervisors to ban future farmers markets and food establishments in Marin until the marketplace returns to normal levels.
Supervisor McGlashan promised to bring the measure for a vote and also add a 1% sales tax to support struggling Marin food providers.
-Business wire, Marin IJ
You have to hate that capitalism stuff and the onslaught of low prices it produces.

Since: Apr 09

Marin County, CA

#13 Feb 20, 2010
Common Progressive has it EXACTLY right. This is nothing more than a bunch of semi-established businesses whining about competition.

Yes, EVERYBODY who sells ANYTHING in the US would love to have their competition limited. The real worry is that the new market will have someone else selling fresher, tastier, cheaper produce.

The consumer benefits from more choice and less travel to distant markets. Case closed.

Oh, and "When I think of farmers' markets," I think of how much cash revenue is escaping income tax....
Gwen Volkman

San Rafael, CA

#14 Feb 20, 2010
I agree with Ovski. Farmers Markets are where we should be buying our food and the more of them the better. Every neighborhood should have one.
Scarface

Santa Maria, CA

#15 Feb 20, 2010
1. The more markets the better.

2. I only buy if the prices are right though.

3. And usually the prices are a bit too high-
willofthevalley

Cathedral City, CA

#16 Feb 20, 2010
Adam Smith wrote:
When Peak Oil hits, the only place you will get food is Safeway - the cost of delivering food to a farmer's market in a little panel truck is vastly higher than delivering it to Safeway in a semi.
On the other hand, Peak Oil is a myth too - there is so much recently discovered natural gas in the United States that no one now alive is going to see anything like "Peak Oil"
Sorry to burst your greenie bubble. Farmer's markets will never feed any significant fraction of the population - they exist only to allow small farmers on the edge of profitability to (partly) feed people with excess disposable income who need to feel good about themselves. I love farmer's markets, but I have no illusions about what they are.
'When' peak oil hits? It likely already has, but we won't know for sure until long after, due to the highly secretive nature of petroleum reserves held in individual fields/countries. And the "little panel truck" coming to my neighborhood negates the need for me to drive my car to the market.
willofthevalley

Cathedral City, CA

#17 Feb 20, 2010
BTW, "peak oil" has nothing to do with natural gas. Natural gas is not oil.
IPAYMUCHOTAXESFO RMYAMIGOS

United States

#18 Feb 20, 2010
Why don't they just hire some illegal aliens to do the farm work?
They work cheap and keep prices down.
TyVic

AOL

#19 Feb 20, 2010
Only in Marin would they determine that competition is a bad thing.
Pot Smoking Moronite

Pilot Hill, CA

#20 Feb 20, 2010
Definition of a novelty===Farmer's Market. I especially love the Moronite liberals that bring their Cost Plus basket, their Starbucks chai with soy milk, and Range Rover.

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