Lafayette Chiropractor Holds Weekly N...

Lafayette Chiropractor Holds Weekly Nutrition and Weight Management Programs for the Public

There are 15 comments on the Freshnews story from Feb 1, 2012, titled Lafayette Chiropractor Holds Weekly Nutrition and Weight Management Programs for the Public. In it, Freshnews reports that:

John Sullivan, a Lafayette chiropractor for 25 years, leads a weekly weight management and nutrition class every Thursday night at 6:00 PM.

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Wisdom

Manhasset, NY

#1 Feb 1, 2012
Oh boy, another activator chiropractor quacker. Activator is a scam technique with basically no research or evidence to support its use.

Not only does this quack use activator, he developed his own technique. Ha ha

Which I'm sure was based on years of legitimate research. Ha ha NOT!

Like I've always said, most chiropractors do whatever they damn well please. There are NO best practices models that these quacks follow.

The scam must end. Valuable tax dollars and insurance premiums are being spent on fraudulent treatments.
Washington Chiro

Buffalo Grove, IL

#2 Feb 1, 2012
Wisdom wrote:
Oh boy, another activator chiropractor quacker. Activator is a scam technique with basically no research or evidence to support its use.
Not only does this quack use activator, he developed his own technique. Ha ha
Which I'm sure was based on years of legitimate research. Ha ha NOT!
Like I've always said, most chiropractors do whatever they damn well please. There are NO best practices models that these quacks follow.
The scam must end. Valuable tax dollars and insurance premiums are being spent on fraudulent treatments.
he he he More jealousy and anger from the fraud, wisdom.
ChiroTruth

Seneca Falls, NY

#3 Feb 1, 2012
Wow the article is not even about activator, yet wisdom chimes in creating his own rant.

BDC

“Want Truth?”

Since: Dec 07

South Carolina

#4 Feb 1, 2012
I guess he will say anything to get a "link".

Wisdom is such a Troll.

Bash anyone with a heart for helping, wake up and see the ones outside of the complaint lists.

For every bad chiro there is at least 50 good ones. Same for any field.
I had a dentist tell me I needed a root canal and a crown. I said ughhh ok later. It was an x-ray of a filling and he called it decay. Isn't decay darker on the film? Oh wait he had it in color image, it was red so it must have been bad.
I had a pain MD prescribe my patient Oxy 30's for the first time and told him to come back for more when he needed them... he said the pain is not that bad and he said just in case.
Just for you wisdom: I had a patient pay 2500 for generic manipulation (from a DC)and only got worse.

What is your problem with specific adjusting??????????
Any technique that is specific you discredit.........

I am wondering

BDC

“Want Truth?”

Since: Dec 07

South Carolina

#5 Feb 1, 2012
Clarification..the patient went to another DC that charged her up front and she was on medicare. I do hate swindlers.....
Wisdom

Manhasset, NY

#6 Feb 2, 2012
"Bash anyone with a heart for helping,..."

I have no problem with this chiropractor educating people about general nutritional facts. However, the fact of the matter is that chiropractors get virtually NO actual clinical experience in nutrition.

If you want nutritional expertise, see a registered dietician. As they have ACTUAL clinical experience.

"For every bad chiro there is at least 50 good ones. Same for any field."

Not true, by any stretch of the imagination. More than 90% of all chiropractors engage in bizarre and fraudulent treatments known as activator, nucca, ak, gonstead etc etc. Many thousands belong to cult like organizations such as maximized living, scientology, and de.

"What is your problem with specific adjusting??????????
Any technique that is specific you discredit........."

The same problem that any reasonable person should have. That there is NO valid evidence to support ANY of those "specific adjusting" treatments. Because you are a chiropractor, you have been trained to believe whatever another chiropractors claims to be true. In the real world of evidenced based practice, treatments are vetted before they are implemented. that is NOT true with chiropractic as I have exposed time and time again.

Remember I have been through chiropractic school and have been to many "technique" seminars and have been to the clinics of many chiropractic schools.

I exposed this quack in the article as being a fraud. He uses activator and his own made up "technique". Much like thousands of other chiropractors.
And that is disgusting.

And you BDC, have failed to renounce or denounce any chiropractic claim, no matter how bizarre or outrageous. Case in point, your chiropractic colleague here, washboy, has claimed that he was expertly trained in wound care. Now you know as well as I do that that clam is outright bull shi t.

But you are a chiropractor with NO back bone. Typical.
Washington Chiro

Buffalo Grove, IL

#7 Feb 2, 2012
Wisdom wrote:
"Bash anyone with a heart for helping,..."
I have no problem with this chiropractor educating people about general nutritional facts. However, the fact of the matter is that chiropractors get virtually NO actual clinical experience in nutrition.
If you want nutritional expertise, see a registered dietician. As they have ACTUAL clinical experience.
"For every bad chiro there is at least 50 good ones. Same for any field."
Not true, by any stretch of the imagination. More than 90% of all chiropractors engage in bizarre and fraudulent treatments known as activator, nucca, ak, gonstead etc etc. Many thousands belong to cult like organizations such as maximized living, scientology, and de.
"What is your problem with specific adjusting??????????
Any technique that is specific you discredit........."
The same problem that any reasonable person should have. That there is NO valid evidence to support ANY of those "specific adjusting" treatments. Because you are a chiropractor, you have been trained to believe whatever another chiropractors claims to be true. In the real world of evidenced based practice, treatments are vetted before they are implemented. that is NOT true with chiropractic as I have exposed time and time again.
Remember I have been through chiropractic school and have been to many "technique" seminars and have been to the clinics of many chiropractic schools.
I exposed this quack in the article as being a fraud. He uses activator and his own made up "technique". Much like thousands of other chiropractors.
And that is disgusting.
And you BDC, have failed to renounce or denounce any chiropractic claim, no matter how bizarre or outrageous. Case in point, your chiropractic colleague here, washboy, has claimed that he was expertly trained in wound care. Now you know as well as I do that that clam is outright bull shi t.
But you are a chiropractor with NO back bone. Typical.
Wow, such anger from the fake, wisdom. This boy, who is a con with NO degrees, needs help. Fast.
ChiroTruth

Seneca Falls, NY

#8 Feb 2, 2012
Wisdom mainstream nutrition is regulated and targeted towards the bare minimum requirements of a person to not be deficient. Did you even ever look at the standards regulated by the government, do you see the works of RDs in schools (its a laughing stalk) Heck there is a lack of scientific studies on food and vitamins, so who actually does know the full extent of proper nutrition. The RD who has been brainwashed to derive their figures from a cookbook?

Please Wisdom you constantly rant about Clinical Experience. The fact is that most chiropractors are more well versed in reading valid literature than MD's, especially when it comes to natural methods of improving ones health. This day and age it is easily possible with the social networking to get better educated through sources than actuality getting CLINICAL experience with the most common disorders you actually see in clinical applications.

And to add to that current chiropractor students are doing rotations through hospitals increasing there personal clinical experience. Not to mention most chiropractic students further their education with an associateship.

The lack of MDs keeping current with literature leads to an immense amount of misdiagnosis. In fact many doctors are misguided in school to treat an abundant population as if there is one treatment for a named disease, although there are many physiologically different mechanisms for a given named disease.
Wisdom

Manhasset, NY

#9 Feb 4, 2012
Chirotruth, truthful you are NOT.

fact, chiropractors get virtually NO, NADA, NONE, ZILCH clinical experience in nutrition.

As opposed to registered dieticians who get extensive actual clinical experience working with real patients.

Stop the baloney mr. chiropractor.

Chiropractors reading "current literature". ha ha You've got to get back on your meds.

The most widely read chiropractic "journals" are dynamic chiropractic, the chiropractic journal and to a far lesser extent jmpt. All rags. All garbage with the exception of an occasional article in jmpt.

Medical journals on the other hand ... well .... far beyond the comprehension of most chiropractors.
Washington Chiro

Buffalo Grove, IL

#10 Feb 5, 2012
Wisdom just lied.

All of the chiropractic journals the liar, wisdom, just mentioned publish peer reviewed articles with each issue.

What the liar fails to mention is that chiropractors have the option of continuing their education after chiropractic college to become board certified in various areas such as orthopedics, nutrition, neurology and dozen of other sub specialties.
The liar wants you to believe that all MD's are qualified to be heart surgeons directly after stepping foot out of medical school--with no further training.
See how stupid and ignorant that sounds. That's the liar and fraud, wisdom, for you.
Even though wisdom is not nor has ever been a chiropractor, he brags about being a failed one. Pathetic.
Wisdom

Manhasset, NY

#11 Feb 5, 2012
"The liar wants you to believe that all MD's are qualified to be heart surgeons directly after stepping foot out of medical school--with no further training. "

Ummmm, no I don't. You seem to have a lot of difficulty with the English language.

Most all chiropractors graduate without ever examining, diagnosing or treating any patients with nutritional deficiencies, psychological disorders, post surgical disabilities and complications, childhood diseases and illnesses, visceral disorders etc etc ..... and yet, they all graduate and claim that they are somehow "qualified" to treat all those conditions. They do not wait until they have "post graduate" experience in those conditions before they accept and pretend to be qualified to treat those conditions.

The clinical chiropractic experience is sorely lacking and many times absolutely pathetic. Remember, I was there. Your baloney don't fly here.
Washington Chiro

Buffalo Grove, IL

#12 Feb 5, 2012
The liar wants you to believe that all MD's are qualified to be heart surgeons directly after stepping foot out of medical school--with no further training. "

Says the fraud, wisdom, "Ummmm, no I don't. You seem to have a lot of difficulty with the English language."
Ummmmmmmmm, yes he does. It's wisdom who does not understand the English language. Thus a repeat.

Wisdom just lied.

All of the chiropractic journals the liar, wisdom, just mentioned publish peer reviewed articles with each issue.

What the liar fails to mention is that chiropractors have the option of continuing their education after chiropractic college to become board certified in various areas such as orthopedics, nutrition, neurology and dozen of other sub specialties.
The liar wants you to believe that all MD's are qualified to be heart surgeons directly after stepping foot out of medical school--with no further training.
See how stupid and ignorant that sounds. That's the liar and fraud, wisdom, for you.
Even though wisdom is not nor has ever been a chiropractor, he brags about being a failed one. Pathetic.
chiroguy

Garden City, NY

#13 May 25, 2012
I'm not quite sure where Wisdom went to chiropractic school, but I'm guessing its was one with more of a philosophical base. It seems his frustration stems from the lack of basic science and clinical education he received. I'm a recent chiropractic graduate, and I know more about advanced imaging, pathology, orthopedic and neurological examinations, and of course the spine and musculoskeletal aberrations than a majority MD's, DO's and etc. My clinical experience was excellent, however, many other chiropractic schools are lacking, and its something as a profession we are finally coming up to speed with other healthcare professions.

I encourage you Wisdom to better your mind with more information, and that negativity never wins arguments nor brings you peace, knowledge does.
Wisdom

Williston Park, NY

#14 May 25, 2012
"knowledge brings you peace"

Well, since I was a chiropractor and am very very familiar with most chiropractic techniques/treatments I AM VERY knowledgeable. And NONE of the most commonly used chiropractic techniques have NO evidence to support their use for ANY particular conditions. The most commonly used "chiropractic" technique is the spring loaded clicker known as activator. Used by more than 60% of ALL chiropractors. Lets be clear, There is NO research or valid evidence that would support using activator for any condition. NONE NADA ZILCH

I could go on and on listing more than 200+ chiropractic techniques which are currently used but have NO evidence to support their use. NONE

And which school I went to does NOT change those facts. But I assure you, the school I went to was "highly regarded" in the chiropractic field.

And you did make me laugh with this statement, " I know more about advanced imaging, pathology, orthopedic and neurological examinations, and of course the spine and musculoskeletal aberrations than a majority MD's, DO's and etc."

That is a classic example of stupidity and frightening ignorance. Remember, I was a chiropractor . I've been to many chiropractic school clinics. Truly sick patients are not seen in chiropractic school clinics and while some chiropractic schools offer some (a semester or two) of "rounding" on some MSK patients, chiropractors DO NOT GET ANY ACTUAL CLINICAL EXPERIENCE IN EXAMINING, DIAGNOSING OR TREATING SERIOUSLY ILL PATIENTS. NONE NADA

MDs on the other hand, get extensive ACTUAL clinical experience in diagnosing, examining and TREATING seriously ill patients. I know. I've been there.

Let's be clear, you know extremely little about neurology, orthopedics, nutrition, pathology and physiology etc etc as compared to MDs.

And you know as well as I do that the quality of chiropractic students is fare below that of medical students. Anyone with the bare minimum prerequisites can get into chiropractic school, anyone. Medical school admissions is very very difficult. Only the top students get into medical school.

And while chiropractors are always quick to label any criticism of chiropractic as being negative, that is an illogical argument. But most chiropractors are not that bright.
Washington Chiro

Buffalo Grove, IL

#15 May 25, 2012
Wisdom,'the troll' continues his angry rants. Wisdom has MAJOR anger issues. Major. That's what happens when you fail in practice and blame others. Simple as that.
Oh, wisdom is no MD. That's clear. I even doubt he was ever a chiropractor, but he brags about being a failed one. Go figure.

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