Raw garlic vs Allicin suppliments (Al...

Raw garlic vs Allicin suppliments (Allimax, Alli-C, Allicin-C etc)?????

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Confused

Croatia

#1 May 7, 2012
I have some problems with candida, and decided to give garlic a try. I can eat a clove or two of garlic without any problems (except the smell^^).
Anyways, when reading online about garlic supplements, most sites seems to say the same thing: Garlic powder is pretty much useless, unless they contain a stable amount of bio-available allicin, like Allisure, Allimax, Alliforce, Allitru, Alli-C etc.

My question is, are these supplements actually BETTER than chewing 2 cloves of fresh garlic? I mean, obviously the advantage of supplements is that they dont make you smell. The disadvantage is that they are more expensive than fresh garlic. HOWEVER, if these supplements actually does not only get rid of the smell, but ALSO are better than fresh garlic, than they may very well be worth the price.

It would be great if someone more knowledgeable than me could shine some light on this. Should I continue chewing raw garlic, or should I get my hand on one of these supplements?

THANK YOU!!!!
Raresultshk

United States

#2 May 22, 2012
I have taken Alli C and have gotten great results, with the garlic breath. I highly reccomend it, and always keep it around.

Alli C is a potent antioxidant, a natural antibiotic allicin supplement, an odorless garlic supplement which boosts the immune system to get rid of cold and flu viruses, this allicin supplement is antiviral, antibacterial, antifungal and antimicrobial. Alli-C capsules contain 300mg. of odorless pure Allicin powder, equivalent to eating 30-40 bulbs of garlic - but without getting "garlic breath". Alli-C delivers real Allicin in a naturally effective dose.

to learn more about Alli C visit: http://www.superiornutritionandhealth.com/nat...
Scubatropin

Gilbert, AZ

#3 Aug 23, 2012
I would stick with the Fresh Organic and freshly crushed Garlic. The first answer you received was obviously an advertisement. If you don't have the Garlic smell, its not working, I'm sorry, but that's the Yin of the Yang of Garlic, you can't get something for nothing.

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steve

Hesperia, CA

#4 Jan 31, 2013
I am listening to allicin C guy now and he just said they can make an amazingly amount of capsules with a small amount of garlic because of their efficient process. Didn't sound right to me. I agree. You can't get something for nothing. But if you get creative you can find some pretty tasty ways to use fresh garlic. Put your money into a good garlic press and take good care of it. Get some essential oils or deodorant if your worried about other people. Nothing beats fresh raw garlic. It's the real thing.
Kara

United States

#6 Mar 25, 2013
Raresultshk wrote:
have gotten great results, with the garlic breath.
Unless your primary concern is repelling vampires, I cannot understand why you would consider garlic breath a "great result."
dr fungus says

Kellyville, Australia

#7 Apr 6, 2013
dear all do not see miracle in garlic it is very potent neurotoxin which destroys brain cells.YOU CANT CURE CANDIDA ful stop you can only control it with non candidal diet for life, if you want to avoid early trip to haven.google my post WHY IT IS NO GOOD TO HAVE BRAIN also read carefuly my posts on YEAST CONTAINING FOODS/ALLERGY. there is no cure or operation for wrong diet.

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john lopez

Westfield, MA

#9 Oct 1, 2013
Raw garlic is the way to go
Bill Sardi

Chatsworth, CA

#10 Jan 11, 2014
Raw garlic cloves and most garlic pills contain no allicin, the primary active ingredient. This does not mean garlic cloves and pills deliver no health benefits. Garlic is a good source of sulfur and selenium and even a very absorbable form of vitamin B1 (allithiamine). But allicin is the most studied garlic molecule and is responsible for its anti-blood clotting effects, its germ-killing properties and its cholesterol-control. Allicin is activated by crushing a fresh clove which mixes the enzyme alliinase with alliin to produce allicin. The problem is, now you have a very, very pungent crushed clove of garlic on your hands and it is very difficult to swallow and usually produces stomach pain + garlic odor. A fresh-crushed clove of garlic yields about 2500 micrograms (2.5 milligrams) of allicin.

Most garlic pills contain no allicin and the alliinase enzyme to produce allicin will not be activated in the stomach because stomach acid will destroy it.

However, many garlic pills labeled for "allicin yield" or "allicin potential" are tested in a neutral pH water bath. When garlic powder is placed in vinegar (acetic acid) to simulate the acid stomach, little or no allicin is produced. So the labels on these products are misleading.

Then there are enteric coated garlic tablets that hope to dissolve slowly and their contents open up in the less acidic intestines to produce allicin. But this depends upon transit time and pH. Sometimes enteric coated capsules open up in the stomach or pass all the way through the digestive tract undissolved.

There is "pure allicin powder" that is widely advertised and claims it has found a way to stabilize allicin, which degrades over time once it is formed. The "pure allicin powder" product provides ~250 micrograms of allicin, as evidenced by a test report at their website, which is one-10th of the allicin produced by a fresh-crushed clove of garlic.

A third garlic technology enfolds garlic powder in an alkaline base as the world's first buffered garlic pill ( www.garlizyme.com ). Once the outer capsule shell dissolves the garlic powder remains bathed within an alkaline mineral base, thus buffering the garlic powder from its acid contents and within 9 seconds alliinase will activate allicin. This alkaline buffered garlic capsule has been proven in human tests to yield 2500-2800 micrograms (2.5-2.8 milligrams) of pure allicin. It assuredly produces freshly-made allicin.
Tana

Austin, TX

#11 Apr 5, 2014
Scubatropin wrote:
I would stick with the Fresh Organic and freshly crushed Garlic. The first answer you received was obviously an advertisement. If you don't have the Garlic smell, its not working, I'm sorry, but that's the Yin of the Yang of Garlic, you can't get something for nothing.
Hi

There's a double blinded study to refute what you are stating...

Check out the 2 blog radio podcast by
Donna crow interviewing Peter Josling-- very what he says... And your assumptions
Will change. Raw garlic is too aggressive in the gut... I have use it w good results but the for is offensive emanating from my pores after 3-4 doses...

I'm not a blog troll or paid ad... Just a Mom of 3 in Texas. Check out her two interviews and verify and try their produce.

Thx
:-)
Tim

Los Angeles, CA

#12 May 11, 2014
Tana wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi
There's a double blinded study to refute what you are stating...
Check out the 2 blog radio podcast by
Donna crow interviewing Peter Josling-- very what he says... And your assumptions
Will change. Raw garlic is too aggressive in the gut... I have use it w good results but the for is offensive emanating from my pores after 3-4 doses...
I'm not a blog troll or paid ad... Just a Mom of 3 in Texas. Check out her two interviews and verify and try their produce.
Thx
:-)
Hi tana how long have u been on garlizyme
SlipSlidinAwa

Woking, UK

#13 Jun 25, 2014
steve wrote:
I am listening to allicin C guy now and he just said they can make an amazingly amount of capsules with a small amount of garlic because of their efficient process. Didn't sound right to me. I agree. You can't get something for nothing. But if you get creative you can find some pretty tasty ways to use fresh garlic. Put your money into a good garlic press and take good care of it. Get some essential oils or deodorant if your worried about other people. Nothing beats fresh raw garlic. It's the real thing.
It is the crushing that produces Allicin and it has a very short lifetime of 1 second so I would say chewing and swallowing it quickly is likely to produce the best results. I slice the garlic and wrap in sundried tomatoes to make it palatable and chew. The sundried tomatoes alos contain lyprocene which prevents prosate cancer and is thought to protect against other cancers.
ppearson99

Lewisburg, OH

#14 Jul 10, 2014
Less than a second refers to one aspect of crushed garlic. Please read this article about garlic from the World's Healthiest Foods(second paragraph): http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php... .
don

Long Beach, CA

#15 Sep 5, 2014
raw fresh garlic is the only way to go,,, Allicin dies quickly. you can't improve on mother nature
Tom

New Westminster, Canada

#16 Apr 14, 2015
Bill Sardi wrote:
Raw garlic cloves and most garlic pills contain no allicin, the primary active ingredient. This does not mean garlic cloves and pills deliver no health benefits. Garlic is a good source of sulfur and selenium and even a very absorbable form of vitamin B1 (allithiamine). But allicin is the most studied garlic molecule and is responsible for its anti-blood clotting effects, its germ-killing properties and its cholesterol-control. Allicin is activated by crushing a fresh clove which mixes the enzyme alliinase with alliin to produce allicin. The problem is, now you have a very, very pungent crushed clove of garlic on your hands and it is very difficult to swallow and usually produces stomach pain + garlic odor. A fresh-crushed clove of garlic yields about 2500 micrograms (2.5 milligrams) of allicin.
Most garlic pills contain no allicin and the alliinase enzyme to produce allicin will not be activated in the stomach because stomach acid will destroy it.
However, many garlic pills labeled for "allicin yield" or "allicin potential" are tested in a neutral pH water bath. When garlic powder is placed in vinegar (acetic acid) to simulate the acid stomach, little or no allicin is produced. So the labels on these products are misleading.
Then there are enteric coated garlic tablets that hope to dissolve slowly and their contents open up in the less acidic intestines to produce allicin. But this depends upon transit time and pH. Sometimes enteric coated capsules open up in the stomach or pass all the way through the digestive tract undissolved.
There is "pure allicin powder" that is widely advertised and claims it has found a way to stabilize allicin, which degrades over time once it is formed. The "pure allicin powder" product provides ~250 micrograms of allicin, as evidenced by a test report at their website, which is one-10th of the allicin produced by a fresh-crushed clove of garlic.
A third garlic technology enfolds garlic powder in an alkaline base as the world's first buffered garlic pill ( www.garlizyme.com ). Once the outer capsule shell dissolves the garlic powder remains bathed within an alkaline mineral base, thus buffering the garlic powder from its acid contents and within 9 seconds alliinase will activate allicin. This alkaline buffered garlic capsule has been proven in human tests to yield 2500-2800 micrograms (2.5-2.8 milligrams) of pure allicin. It assuredly produces freshly-made allicin.
Plagiarism.
sp99hml

El Molar, Spain

#17 Jul 2, 2015
Hi, I would be so grateful if anybody knows if Garlinex (Garlizyme) works to clear MRSA, as Allimed does. I can't find any precise info on this anywhere. I need to clear my MRSA and am going to struggle a little to cover the cost for Allimed, however, if this is the only proven formula to work I'd rather know and just save up each month to buy it and regain my health back. Thank you so much for your helpxxx
ninad

Glen Huntly, Australia

#18 Jan 21, 2016
Confused wrote:
I have some problems with candida, and decided to give garlic a try. I can eat a clove or two of garlic without any problems (except the smell^^).
Anyways, when reading online about garlic supplements, most sites seems to say the same thing: Garlic powder is pretty much useless, unless they contain a stable amount of bio-available allicin, like Allisure, Allimax, Alliforce, Allitru, Alli-C etc.
My question is, are these supplements actually BETTER than chewing 2 cloves of fresh garlic? I mean, obviously the advantage of supplements is that they dont make you smell. The disadvantage is that they are more expensive than fresh garlic. HOWEVER, if these supplements actually does not only get rid of the smell, but ALSO are better than fresh garlic, than they may very well be worth the price.
It would be great if someone more knowledgeable than me could shine some light on this. Should I continue chewing raw garlic, or should I get my hand on one of these supplements?
THANK YOU!!!!
I agree that just eating the real thing is much better for you, chew some parsley can help counteract the smell. After checking out all of the Allimax products on line and then to see it cost so much, makes you wonder... it's all about making money for them!

Since: Jan 16

Las Vegas, NV

#19 Jan 22, 2016
One added touch, white wine. Drizzle with olive oil and add some white wine. I found a white wine from one of my friends who is working in Gameworks kitchen and tried. They are trying this kind of things in many items on their menu. It's Awesome!!!!
http://www.gameworks.com/food
candace

Calgary, Canada

#20 Mar 9, 2016
why are people idiots the rule of thumb keep it simple stupid use our land that was made for us to live on if it needs to be processed broken down altered in any way think ummmmmmmmmmmmmm duhhhhhhhhhhhh
Angry Reader

Antioch, CA

#21 Apr 12, 2016
dr fungus says wrote:
dear all do not see miracle in garlic it is very potent neurotoxin which destroys brain cells.YOU CANT CURE CANDIDA ful stop you can only control it with non candidal diet for life, if you want to avoid early trip to haven.google my post WHY IT IS NO GOOD TO HAVE BRAIN also read carefuly my posts on YEAST CONTAINING FOODS/ALLERGY. there is no cure or operation for wrong diet.
As a neurobiologist, I have to call b******t on the response above. A casual search on garlic and brain function on the website of NCBI (National Center for Biotechnology Information, maintained by the National Institutes of Health) yields nothing to even suggest allicin or garlic neurotoxicity. Dr. Fungus is a hack. Read for yourselves:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/
Jlucky

Kissimmee, FL

#22 Jun 11, 2016
Angry Reader wrote:
<quoted text>

As a neurobiologist, I have to call b******t on the response above. A casual search on garlic and brain function on the website of NCBI (National Center for Biotechnology Information, maintained by the National Institutes of Health) yields nothing to even suggest allicin or garlic neurotoxicity. Dr. Fungus is a hack. Read for yourselves:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/
I read that response from "Dr. Fungus." At least you understood what this person was saying. There were so many grammar and syntax errors that I had to read it a few times to undertand it.

Well, it seems that someone had a bit too many neurotoxins!

Back to garlic, it works for me when fighting upper respiratory infections (that's the only infections I've had.) I do a whole bulb, divide it in two doses. While I'm crushing all the cloves, I inhale the smell. After 10 to 15 minutes, after Alliinase and Allin form Allicin, I eat it. It's extremely hot, but I manage to spread it in a sandwish, raw, and a cheese slice. I add probiotics, twice a day, but hours apart from the garlic. And I top the probiotics with bananas, as PREbiotic. This is a combo I came up with after reading about natural antibiotics when I was so sick that I knew if I go to a Dr, I would be sent to the hospital for sure. After fighting with so many upper resp infections and countless of antibiotics (and hospitalizations), I know it has been far superior to antibiotics for me, again FOR ME, not every case, every infection, every person is the same.

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