Can Cheese Bridge the Turkey-Armenia ...

Can Cheese Bridge the Turkey-Armenia Divide?

There are 43 comments on the EurasiaNet story from Oct 24, 2012, titled Can Cheese Bridge the Turkey-Armenia Divide?. In it, EurasiaNet reports that:

Sometimes diplomatic breakthroughs can happen through unlikely channels. Although the Turkey-Armenia reconciliation process that resulted in the 2009 signing of protocols to reestablish relations between the two neighbors is now almost completely dead, it's worth recalling that it was "soccer diplomacy" -- mutual visits by the Turkish and Armenian ... (more)

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ASALA ANKARA1982

Epping, Australia

#23 Oct 26, 2012
turkish nationalism is hate everyone accept kemal ataturk .. this is turkish nationalism.. turkey will not fit in EU . its simple.. europeans are my christian brrothers i love them dearly even though they are blinded by curruption and $$$$$ , but with turkey you will be accepting ISLAM the largest disease known to man into your homes nd childrens minds .. i cannot tolerate this .

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

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#24 Oct 27, 2012
EU is not Christian country. Is democratic-liberal-neutral country, and multicultural.

EU will be strong and completely only with Turkey in.
yttila1

Istanbul, Turkey

#25 Oct 28, 2012
we will NEVER GIVE DUE CONSIDERATION to ARMENIANS have you got it?because appearently your spiderwise small brains work a little slow than normal.please shall we not speak ridicilous topics like that they are only trolling and searching some ways to fun!:]LOL
opssw

Istanbul, Turkey

#26 Oct 28, 2012
european2012 wrote:
1.Nationalists-racists-fasists (anti-islamic or those who want obligatory the Saria law or who support terrorism and are against democracy) need to banned.
2.West countries now have the most democracy and freedom from every other country.
3.You are more liberal than West? Bravo! I same!
But you are more liberal or you are against liberalism?
You support democracy?
You support multicultural?
You support the abolish of nationalism?
all those things are avaible inside Turkey.you are only charlatans playing your roles in politics.there is nothing about you in fact.

THAT IS THE POINT :::are you really democrats?you make me soo much laugh hahaha.you were and still you are only remainings of colonial empires.and still you re talking about multi-culturalism RIDICILOUS .colonism has vanished sorry.all the time you use democracy to carry out tasks in your dirty agenda.and now you are leadind a miserable existance because of decreasing the level of economy and prosperity in your CHRISTIAN CLUB EU
you are wrangling each other.that s why you can not exploit anywhere nowadays.EU=ONLY a finished CHRISTIAN COLONIAL CLUB and its TRUMPETER HERE you AVAIBLE.

“Liberalism”

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#27 Oct 28, 2012
Turkey in EU will be equal as Germany, France and every member in EU.

So where you see "colonialism"?
Frrta

Istanbul, Turkey

#28 Oct 28, 2012
european2012 wrote:
Turkey in EU will be equal as Germany, France and every member in EU.
So where you see "colonialism"?
dear EUROPEAN we dont want to be a part of your decadent empire.and will never give even a drop of blood to your hungry bat.so that is the point:
EU is EU all the time. it doesnt change.ok maybe time changes,political figures change,make-up hidding EU's real dirty face may change but MOTTO in EUROPEANS' mind never changes:"THERE MUST BE SOMEWHERE to EXPLOIT STILL,WE SHOULD SEARCH FOR THEM AND DO OUR WELL-KNOWN famous TASK:stripping them"

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

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#29 Oct 28, 2012
If Turkey not join EU, Turkey will dissolve.
ASALA ANKARA1982

Epping, Australia

#30 Oct 28, 2012
se european youre a moron .. these people dont want to join the EU..THEY are forced to .. i canot tolerate a large muslim society that we Christians fought for hundreds of years against in the door steps of Europe .. i believe they are worms , and if you accept them so are all of you ..

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

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#31 Oct 29, 2012
ASALA ANKARA1982 wrote:
we Christians fought for hundreds of years against in the door steps of Europe
We live at 2012. Not at 1012.
Frrta

Istanbul, Turkey

#32 Oct 29, 2012
european2012 wrote:
If Turkey not join EU, Turkey will """DISSOLVE """.
you are babbling and dreaming how does it happen?you will be a group of botards maybe in the next 50 yearsbecause of your population dinamics.so are you really capable of doing this?maybe you have KURDs in your mind but dont worry they are not strong enough to divide TURKEY they have no choice if they live with us in acceptable(not perfect;admitting)democracy otherwise they will find themselves in a herd of wolves containing IRAN IRAQ SYRIA TURKEY...so they have no capacity briefly.again we are not at an excellent level but we are developing our country continously in this regard there will be no reason for a probable Kurd rising .Have you GOT it??

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

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#33 Oct 29, 2012
If one country is not democratic-liberal-neutral and if base on nation, then all minorities want independency.

If one minority want independency, one day will realise this.

And if the country use violence against minority, then minority want more the independency.

Turkey will win only if make Kurds to they not want independency.

And this will happen ONLY if Turkey become democratic-liberal-neutral country as USA, and only if join EU.
Frrta

Istanbul, Turkey

#34 Oct 29, 2012
european2012 wrote:
If one country is not democratic-liberal-neutral and if base on nation, then all minorities want independency.
If one minority want independency, one day will realise this.
And if the country use violence against minority, then minority want more the independency.
Turkey will win only if make Kurds to they not want independency.
And this will happen ONLY if Turkey become democratic-liberal-neutral country as USA, and only if join EU.
we are already democratic-liberal and neutral country .the avaible government on the power is consisted of %30-40 Kurd diplomats.we have lots of high level officer,soldier,police cheff,business man and so on who are Kurds and they put into words proudly that they are Kurds .even we can say easily Kurds are on control the %30 lot of the TURKEYs state economy,although they make up the only %15 of the population inside the complete population.are they not equal us or they have even no Identity cards like in syria iran?so what is your point?before you talk through my hat I say you no waiting you are just making deviations,struggling to spread some artificial fixed political arguments here and you can dare to use EU s flag on your avatar as if you are a authorized European diplomat
Frrta

Istanbul, Turkey

#35 Oct 29, 2012
ASALA ANKARA1982 wrote:
se european youre a moron .. these people dont want to join the EU..THEY are forced to .. i canot tolerate a large muslim society that we Christians fought for hundreds of years against in the door steps of Europe .. i believe they are worms , and if you accept them so are all of you ..
another idiotic statement from ASALA armenian terrorist.you are more loyalist than the king.maybe you deem yourself as a real Christian(probably you re atheist like for most of armenians living abroad) or European or even a Neo-Russian.but reality bites ;they never regard you as one of these definitions.they only consider you a group of flunky,blockedhead,ready for using in due course in any dirty task.it was the same throughout history and still the same.but you still insist on being a sleeping cow it is not my problem.
ASALA ANKARA1982

Epping, Australia

#36 Oct 29, 2012
Frrta wrote:
<quoted text>
another idiotic statement from ASALA armenian terrorist.you are more loyalist than the king.maybe you deem yourself as a real Christian(probably you re atheist like for most of armenians living abroad) or European or even a Neo-Russian.but reality bites ;they never regard you as one of these definitions.they only consider you a group of flunky,blockedhead,ready for using in due course in any dirty task.it was the same throughout history and still the same.but you still insist on being a sleeping cow it is not my problem.
i just know wht type of people you are . thats all ..these europeans are stupid i see . believing a murderous thuggish nation like yours .

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

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#37 Oct 29, 2012
Frrta wrote:
<quoted text>
we are already democratic-liberal and neutral country .the avaible government on the power is consisted of %30-40 Kurd diplomats
Liberal democratic country mean: army to become professional, to abolish obligatory service, army to not mix in politic in economy and in education, stop the nationalist education, not mix the State in education, free economy, open borders, ban of nationalists-racists-nazists(e xample "Grey Woolfs"), open borders with Armenia-G/C, recognize G/C, take army from TRNC, not alliance with dictators and fascist countries(example Iran), recognize of the criminals of the past, help to the victoms, less State, less bureaucracy, etc etc.

And of course to join EU.
ASALA ANKARA1982

Epping, Australia

#38 Oct 29, 2012
european2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
Liberal democratic country mean: army to become professional, to abolish obligatory service, army to not mix in politic in economy and in education, stop the nationalist education, not mix the State in education, free economy, open borders, ban of nationalists-racists-nazists(e xample "Grey Woolfs"), open borders with Armenia-G/C, recognize G/C, take army from TRNC, not alliance with dictators and fascist countries(example Iran), recognize of the criminals of the past, help to the victoms, less State, less bureaucracy, etc etc.
And of course to join EU.
hahahhahhahaha you think turks will do that?????? firstly they not the good turks but the denialist criminals need to wash there hands and face and stop worshiping murderous leaders and ancestors .
Frrta

Istanbul, Turkey

#39 Oct 30, 2012
european2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
Liberal democratic country mean: army to become professional, to abolish obligatory service, army to not mix in politic in economy and in education, stop the nationalist education, not mix the State in education, free economy, open borders, ban of nationalists-racists-nazists(e xample "Grey Woolfs"), open borders with Armenia-G/C, recognize G/C, take army from TRNC, not alliance with dictators and fascist countries(example Iran), recognize of the criminals of the past, help to the victoms, less State, less bureaucracy, etc etc.
And of course to join EU.
.firstly nowadays military do not intervent government policies.in the past it would be the same at that time there were some external interventions to our internal balances caused by US or EU.or again military doesnt mix education system.putting realities like armenian lies,europanean colonism tendency into our books;educating children with historical factuals does not interest you.if you want us to make regulations in our education system that are your wanteds and fixed texts hiding actuals,sorry you will wait for a long time maybe forever.secondly unless armenia withdraw from the invaded Azerbaijansian territories and cancel of insisting their diasphorical fake genocide bunkums ,we never open the borders and armenians will continue to be a half hungry country.thirdly you can not discern the difference between western nationalism(nazizm facism or frequently n us racism) trends and turkish nationalism doctrin I think.suffice it to say this doctrin completely disallows discriminating the people in terms of their colours,beliefs,nations etc like you did and you still do so presently.so you should study this lesson a little bit.they are indispensable units of the modern Turkish Political Life.someehre below you are implying Cyprus.briefly unless greeks accept that Turks are equal to them on power(if an integrated state will be found,this is compulsory for them to change their avable ideas about Turks and being modest),we never withdraw our troops from Cyprus,even we might concatenate the north part of cyprus with Turkish mainland if no logical acceptable solution.also they should pay amends to turks for the financial and emotional one-sided damages during Cyprus Riot between years 1950s-1975.lastly oh my blockedhead friend it is not interested you that which country we should be close or we should improve our friendship.an humble suggestion,you are quoating my sentences particularly you didn not appraised the text as whole part,it doesnt make you cool and intellectual writer vice versa it makes you a spoilsport primary school child ...X(

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

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#40 Oct 30, 2012
1.Democratic State is neutral, not base on nation, and not control the education.

2.Turkey want to belong at West, but any west country have close borders to Armenia.

Close borders to Armenia make Turkey far from West and damage Turkey's economy and diplomacy.

And not help the solve of NK.

3.G/C not want solve of Cyprus. We all understant this. But TRNC will never join EU if Turkish army is there! Because this give excuses to G/C, that this territory is occupied and not independent.

Also, not exist west country who have close borders to G/C or not recognize G/C.

This damage the Turkey.
Frrta

Istanbul, Turkey

#41 Oct 30, 2012
european2012 wrote:
1.Democratic State is neutral, not base on nation, and not control the education.
2.Turkey want to belong at West, but any west country have close borders to Armenia.
Close borders to Armenia make Turkey far from West and damage Turkey's economy and diplomacy.
And not help the solve of NK.
3.G/C not want solve of Cyprus. We all understant this. But TRNC will never join EU if Turkish army is there! Because this give excuses to G/C, that this territory is occupied and not independent.
Also, not exist west country who have close borders to G/C or not recognize G/C.
This damage the Turkey.
you are again talking nonsense .you repeat all the time the same arguments which are not useful and valid for today.you want us to open armenia border.

I said it is impossible unless armenia withdraw its troops from illegaly invaded azerbaijan territories involving lots of humanity criminals with Cooperation with Soviets and thanks to EU an US s silence.and you still talking about opening the borders with armenia.with respect to fake genocide claims they dont (cant because they know very well if it ould they will fe found guilty and provacators) accept to gather a common history committee for investigating the events coming about between the years 1915-1920.on the top it all they can not attempt to open their undeformed archieves -not including some fake documents prepared by armenian historians afterwards- for sciencific collaboration.also closed borders so harmfull for armenia more than us.we have diversified commercial relations with for most part of the world.but armenia not.it is sieged by iran georgia azerbaijan that are not eager to open ways armenia for commerce.

for your second comment:only we aimed to reach the level of developments in EU at the time nothing else.because Eu was better than east but now it has changed we are approximatelly equal to each other in lots of area.we never wanted to belong to EU or to be European.centripetal power is gliding toward East slowly but continously.history is only repeats dear european first it was the best for West from 300 bc to 800 ad in time of Roman Empire then it was the best for east from 900 ad to 1500 ad for 600 years as well. after west preceded it from 1500 ad to starting of the 21th century again.again east will be preceded West.this is an inevitable fact.briefly we Turkey are neither easterns nor westerns we are on the center precisely.

Turkish Army is gonna continue to be in Cyprus as long as greeks doesnt change their attitudes and wake from an old Pontus dream.even this might cause that invading of the main Greeklands in case of an impossed war.so dont you wait Turkish Army o withdraw from Cyprus unless neccesity conditions adjusted.

an important note:If you repeat same things and invalid arguments again in your next entry,I will not answerback you OK?
ASALA ANKARA1982

Epping, Australia

#42 Oct 30, 2012
Frrta wrote:
<quoted text>
you are again talking nonsense .you repeat all the time the same arguments which are not useful and valid for today.you want us to open armenia border.
I said it is impossible unless armenia withdraw its troops from illegaly invaded azerbaijan territories involving lots of humanity criminals with Cooperation with Soviets and thanks to EU an US s silence.and you still talking about opening the borders with armenia.with respect to fake genocide claims they dont (cant because they know very well if it ould they will fe found guilty and provacators) accept to gather a common history committee for investigating the events coming about between the years 1915-1920.on the top it all they can not attempt to open their undeformed archieves -not including some fake documents prepared by armenian historians afterwards- for sciencific collaboration.also closed borders so harmfull for armenia more than us.we have diversified commercial relations with for most part of the world.but armenia not.it is sieged by iran georgia azerbaijan that are not eager to open ways armenia for commerce.
for your second comment:only we aimed to reach the level of developments in EU at the time nothing else.because Eu was better than east but now it has changed we are approximatelly equal to each other in lots of area.we never wanted to belong to EU or to be European.centripetal power is gliding toward East slowly but continously.history is only repeats dear european first it was the best for West from 300 bc to 800 ad in time of Roman Empire then it was the best for east from 900 ad to 1500 ad for 600 years as well. after west preceded it from 1500 ad to starting of the 21th century again.again east will be preceded West.this is an inevitable fact.briefly we Turkey are neither easterns nor westerns we are on the center precisely.
Turkish Army is gonna continue to be in Cyprus as long as greeks doesnt change their attitudes and wake from an old Pontus dream.even this might cause that invading of the main Greeklands in case of an impossed war.so dont you wait Turkish Army o withdraw from Cyprus unless neccesity conditions adjusted.
an important note:If you repeat same things and invalid arguments again in your next entry,I will not answerback you OK?
MR ANTI ARMENIA. who are you to say what armenia can do and cant do .. Artsakh is Armenian land .. all throughout history .. you miuslims think you can take peoples lands and have thousands of babies on them live there for hundreds of years and claim its yours . seriously this i the reason why you should never join the EU .. because europe will be lost to these scumbags .. we will never leave Artsakh .. and we will never forget about or lands that you have got .. they are my ancestral lands .. since when did turkey ever have ARARAT mountain .. the hall world knows its an Armenian mountain .. if turkey join EU , Armenia will never share ties with any European country .. nor will we look at you .. after what hungary did , with safarov release and if Turkey join EU , that means you have no respect towards anyone accept your pockets for the greed of yourselves .. thats all

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