Don't say nay to horsemeat - French eaters

Feb 12, 2013 Full story: Reuters 11

In a dingy Parisian back street, diners at a one-of-a-kind bistro tuck lustily into breaded horse brain, pan fried heart of horse and broiled cheek, along with prime rump steaks the chef cuts from the bone himself.

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Kathleen Bauer

AOL

#1 Feb 14, 2013
ALL animals suffer when hauled to slaughter. Horses die a particularly brutal death sometimes being stabbed over and over until they succumb. Perhaps the French have finally become aware of the pain and terror endured by these animals as they are turned into bloody steaks. Perhaps those Frendhmen who support this atrocity for any reason should join the civilized world and reject this exotic "treat."
rio

London, UK

#2 Feb 14, 2013
Kathleen Bauer wrote:
Horses die a particularly brutal death sometimes being stabbed over and over until they succumb.
Explain how horses are treated differently in slaughterhouses.
How are they "stabbed over and over"?
As far as we know, all animals are stunned, with different success results. I have never heard that horses and bovines are killed with different methods.
It's a messy business in any case, which cannot fail to affect the laymen who witness it.

Since: Mar 12

France

#3 Feb 15, 2013
rio wrote:
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Explain how horses are treated differently in slaughterhouses.
How are they "stabbed over and over"?
As far as we know, all animals are stunned, with different success results. I have never heard that horses and bovines are killed with different methods.
It's a messy business in any case, which cannot fail to affect the laymen who witness it.
Whatever the species, you can be sure on one thing : your steak's last hour has been an uncomfortable one. A sentimental view is that horses are cuter than oxes or pigs so their suffering is more valuable.. the not so cute pigs has by far the worse death and nobody commiserates. Modern agriculture also means that farm animals lead miserable lives too. Last Christmas in Morrocco... seing cattle grazing on the hills I was reflecting that I would have less scruples eating those since they at least would have had a good life ....
Kathleen Bauer

AOL

#4 Feb 15, 2013
Many of the horses sold at auction in the U.S. are slaughtered in Mexico. An investigation by the San Antonio News-Express revealed that slaughterhouses in that country "use a "puntilla" knife to severe the spines of horses prior to slaughter. Footage obtained by the paper shows horses being stabbed repeatedly in the neck with these knives This paralyzes the animal, but it is fully conscious during the slaughter process until "bled out."

Gunshot is the most common method to render horses unconscious in most slaughterhouses in Canada Even though some are shot several times they showed signs of returning to consciousness during the butchering process.

The captive bolt was designed to kill cattle and was not intended for horses. Horses have longer necks than cattle, throw their heads around in fright in an attempt to avoid the captive bolt causing workers to make "hurried and repeated blows" sometimes 8 to 10 as discovered on the heads of butchered horses. Even those stunned "properly" often regain consciousness within minutes able to feel pain and terror, but unable to repond physically.
Transportation of these animals is horrendous in itelf. NO ANIMAL DIES HUMANELY IN A SLAUGHTER HOUSE.

Since: Nov 12

Romania

#5 Feb 16, 2013
Be serious Kathleen ! Unfortunately for me mental health, I've seen how hoses, bulls, kangaroos and pigs are slaughtered, in a industrial way and in private from Norway to New Zealand and especialy Australia . Peep's use a big sledge hammer to... well... be able to cut a big animal throat, when in private, no shotguns are used. Into factories they just stund 'em before cut their neck with some sort of moving blade, its like you cut wood, so what you've said is just BS, sorry !
rio

UK

#7 Feb 16, 2013
-Piper- wrote:
Be serious Kathleen ! Unfortunately for me mental health, I've seen how hoses, bulls, kangaroos and pigs are slaughtered, in a industrial way and in private from Norway to New Zealand and especialy Australia . Peep's use a big sledge hammer to... well... be able to cut a big animal throat, when in private, no shotguns are used. Into factories they just stund 'em before cut their neck with some sort of moving blade, its like you cut wood, so what you've said is just BS, sorry !
Do not understimate the cruaulty involved in killing animals in many slaughterhouses all over the world. There is enough documented evidences that the facts cannot be denied or ignored like you try to do.

As human society become more civilised, people are increasingly more sensitive on this issue, to the point that they campaign for better treatment of animals in herding, transport, in killing methods. Somew people forfeit eating meat alltogether.

I think that if some footage of the work inside slaughterhouses was broadcasted at peak time, many people would stop eating meat completely, not wanting to have on their plate, the result of such obvious cruaulty to animal, from cramped living conditionws, to ill-treatment, and horrendous killing practices.

As humans, we have completely abused nature, animals included.
paul SHYKORA arts

Calgary, Canada

#8 Feb 16, 2013
...HORSE Meat on it's own..is Okay...eh..(+)...yada u u..shalom

Since: Nov 12

Romania

#9 Feb 18, 2013
@rio
I don't underestimate anything, look better at my "using a sledgehammer.." (they smash the big animal into the forehead so ter animal throat can be cut easily).

But if we don't eat we'll die, cos ye can't eat rocks. And me defo can't eat only plants , mate.

How can we kill animals we ate, cos we must kill it, in a more humane way?! How can you kill, humane way-ish ???!

I've seen how this job is done and I stil eat meal.

And yes you're right, we abused of what we have, that's true.

Since: Mar 12

Paris, France

#10 Feb 19, 2013
-Piper- wrote:
@rio
I don't underestimate anything, look better at my "using a sledgehammer.." (they smash the big animal into the forehead so ter animal throat can be cut easily).
But if we don't eat we'll die, cos ye can't eat rocks. And me defo can't eat only plants , mate.
How can we kill animals we ate, cos we must kill it, in a more humane way?! How can you kill, humane way-ish ???!
I've seen how this job is done and I stil eat meal.
And yes you're right, we abused of what we have, that's true.
giving animals enough space and freedom during their lives... I have seen hens pecking at my grandma's farm.. and I have seen distressed animals in an industrial henhouse and it is not the same.(plus my grandma's chickens were healthy and tasty too)

Revise procedures and breeding conditions, accept to pay a few cents more for what will be much better meat and you can improve things a lot for everyone.
rio

Beckenham, UK

#11 Feb 19, 2013
-Piper- wrote:
@rio
I don't underestimate anything, look better at my "using a sledgehammer.." (they smash the big animal into the forehead so ter animal throat can be cut easily).
But if we don't eat we'll die, cos ye can't eat rocks. And me defo can't eat only plants , mate.
How can we kill animals we ate, cos we must kill it, in a more humane way?! How can you kill, humane way-ish ???!
I've seen how this job is done and I stil eat meal.
And yes you're right, we abused of what we have, that's true.
Yes, we can slaughter animals in a more humane way, certainly we can.
We can reduce their pain, minmise their agony, make them unconscious quicker.
We can also reduce their stress to the slaughter by sheltering them from the noise and smell of dying animals.
We could transport them and provide them with food and water, and resting halts.
We could also reduce the amount of meat we eat, which is absolutely unnecessary.
Maybe we could stop eating meat altogether; many have already done so.
I predict the future belongs to vegetarians. With an increasing world population, we cannot continue to eat so much meat per head. Grazing animals waste too much land that can be used to grow crops. We can get our proteines without eating meat.
That will slow down our cancer rate too!
Brit Expat

Sommières, France

#12 Feb 19, 2013
Go to work on an EGG. LOL

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