APNewsBreak: Iowa plant drops horse-slaughter plan

Aug 13, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Miami Herald

An Iowa company is dropping plans to slaughter horses in the wake of a federal judge's ruling that temporarily banned the practice as part of a lawsuit filed by animal welfare groups, a company executive said Tuesday.

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Whew.
That was close one for Michelle.

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Whew.
That was close one for Michelle.
Too bad. Now you'll starve.
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What's the big deal? Canada and all of Europe eat horsemeat. Just don't eat it if it's an emotional strain for you.
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@reality check : here's a reality check for
you : Canada and "all of Europe" (?!) don't eat
horsemeat because it is laced with cancer-causing
substances already banned for human consumption.
That's why they were so irate when they found
horse meat mixed in with their Burger King. It's
kind of like finding plutonium in the loco weed
you must be smoking down there on the range !
In order to get a reality check you must first
know what reality is, right ? Hard to do when you're
smoking that loco weed, huh? The pro slaughter types
can stop pretending that "it's just a cultural issue"
that Americans should "get over". It's a health
and medical issue because banned drugs are
used in horses that aren't in cattle because horses
aren't raised for food ! Maybe by your logic
we should all "just get past the cultural taboo"
about serving up Soylent Green. After all, cannibalism used to be common too, right ? No,
it's time to evolve beyond needless slaughter in
order to profit a handful of commercial horse
breeders.
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Shane wrote:
@reality check : here's a reality check for
you : Canada and "all of Europe" (?!) don't eat
horsemeat because it is laced with cancer-causing
substances already banned for human consumption.
That's why they were so irate when they found
horse meat mixed in with their Burger King. It's
kind of like finding plutonium in the loco weed
you must be smoking down there on the range !
In order to get a reality check you must first
know what reality is, right ? Hard to do when you're
smoking that loco weed, huh? The pro slaughter types
can stop pretending that "it's just a cultural issue"
that Americans should "get over". It's a health
and medical issue because banned drugs are
used in horses that aren't in cattle because horses
aren't raised for food ! Maybe by your logic
we should all "just get past the cultural taboo"
about serving up Soylent Green. After all, cannibalism used to be common too, right ? No,
it's time to evolve beyond needless slaughter in
order to profit a handful of commercial horse
breeders.
Um... not all horses are laden with chemicals and yes, some are raised for consumption. Get over your drivel. Cannibalism? So you're another douchenozzle who conflates animals and humans. Sorry Clementine, you lose me there.
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@ reality check - yes, all horses are loaded with
chemicals every horse who ever got Bute from the
vet is, along with 18 other common drugs routinely
used to treat horses - all banned for human consumption as cancer-causing. Horses aren't raised
in the U.S. Canada or Mexico for consumption which
is why there is no market for horsemeat from those
countries. Europe has banned it. The point about
cannibalism, dimbulb, is that human beings have
evolved beyond it (except in Texas I guess)just as
the 80 per cent of Americans who oppose horse slaughter have evolved beyond slaughtering horses
for foood. As for being a Clementine, Petunia, this
Vietnam vet could could still kick your insolent
butt any day of the week ! Grow up junior !
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Shane wrote:
@ reality check - yes, all horses are loaded with
chemicals every horse who ever got Bute from the
vet is, along with 18 other common drugs routinely
used to treat horses - all banned for human consumption as cancer-causing. Horses aren't raised
in the U.S. Canada or Mexico for consumption which
is why there is no market for horsemeat from those
countries. Europe has banned it. The point about
cannibalism, dimbulb, is that human beings have
evolved beyond it (except in Texas I guess)just as
the 80 per cent of Americans who oppose horse slaughter have evolved beyond slaughtering horses
for foood. As for being a Clementine, Petunia, this
Vietnam vet could could still kick your insolent
butt any day of the week ! Grow up junior !
Sorry Clementine, you're just another purveyor of paranoia. Another control freak who knows what's best for everyone else. Try minding your own business. Oh, and your John Wayne impersonation is pretty lame... I fart in your general direction.

And Europe has not banned horsemeat...

http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-busine...
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Shane wrote:
@ reality check - yes, all horses are loaded with
chemicals every horse who ever got Bute from the
vet is, along with 18 other common drugs routinely
used to treat horses - all banned for human consumption as cancer-causing. Horses aren't raised
in the U.S. Canada or Mexico for consumption which
is why there is no market for horsemeat from those
countries. Europe has banned it. The point about
cannibalism, dimbulb, is that human beings have
evolved beyond it (except in Texas I guess)just as
the 80 per cent of Americans who oppose horse slaughter have evolved beyond slaughtering horses
for foood. As for being a Clementine, Petunia, this
Vietnam vet could could still kick your insolent
butt any day of the week ! Grow up junior !
The fact that you combine eating horse meat with cannibalism shows your disconnect with reality.
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@ one more time boys ( I fart in your direction?
you've made my point for me Junior):
1. horse meat imported from the United States
Canada and Mexico is banned from Europe as it cannot
verify what drugs were used in raising them. That
is fact. Therefore there is no market for horse meat
so why would any fool be investing in horse slaughter
plants ?
2. It is every tax payer's business since they pay
for the $400,000 a year to have federal inspectors
at each horse plant. Therefore it is their business,
tumbleweed.
3. since the drugs commonly used in horses are already banned for human consumption, the entire
F.D.A. and European Common Market who just banned
horse meat from this continent must be purveyors
of paranoia as well, right ?
4. the greatest disconnect from reality, boys,
are those who ignore the fact that Americans
reject paying taxes for practices they find
morally unsupportable. It is as foolish as you
to swim against the tide of public opinion as it
would be to legislate for the return of prohibition
on booze.
5. Since you don't seem to grasp the analogy, we'll
try a different one. Eating a horse, like a cat or
dog is for many people pretty close to cannibalism,
especially if they are a family pet, not anonymous
livestock. Try this one then: human beings used to
be morally primitive enough to howl at the sight
of the moon's eclipse, thinking it would cause it
to stop. Now we are morally evolved enough not to
believe that will work. Now we are morally evolved
enough not to mindlessly slaughter horses thinking
this will magically reverse unemployment in Roswell. I suspect though, based on reality check's
statements, they still howl at the moon in Midland,
Texas !
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Shane wrote:
Therefore there is no market for horse meat
so why would any fool be investing in horse slaughter
plants ?
Dogs have to eat too.
Shane wrote:
the greatest disconnect from reality, boys,
are those who ignore the fact that Americans
reject paying taxes for practices they find
morally unsupportable.
Like Obamacare?
Shane wrote:
Eating a horse, like a cat or
dog is for many people pretty close to cannibalism,
especially if they are a family pet, not anonymous
livestock.
Who is eating their pets? Oh, I get it, theater of the absurd. Nice touch!
Shane wrote:
I suspect though, based on reality check's
statements, they still howl at the moon in Midland,
Texas !
I kill wild hogs by moonlight but I have been known to howl afterwards.

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I don't understand why eating cat/dog is illegal either. Most people don't eat lamb. Should that be illegal too? Most people don't eat caviar. should that be illegal too?
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F.Y.I. "dogs have to eat too" ? Guess what horse
meat isn't used in dog food anymore, get with the
times. Dog food companies didn't want to be sued
for poisoning people's pets. But you think it's
allright to serve it to human beings without telling
them the toxic chemicals in it ? "like Obamacare" ?
Well, 80 % of the American people aren't opposed
to Obamacare but 80% of the American people
consistently poll being against eating horsemeat
and using their federal tax dollars to subsidize
horse slaughter plants. Yet you wish to force them
to spend their tax money on it ? Whose the control
freak here, reality check ? If someone forced you
to pay taxes to subsidize a tofu factory in Midland
Texas you'd be howling like a coyote about "government oppression" ! "who is eating their pets"? Well apparently USA Rocks would be quite
happy too since he can't understand why there are
laws against stealing pets and turning them into
canned food for consumption somewhere (China ?)
Horse theft soars around horse slaughter plants
which is why horse owners don't want it in their
states. Unlike you, when they picture horses being
slaughtered, they see their own horses winding
up there. When California outlawed horse slaughter,
horse theft virtually disappeared. USA Rocks,
you are still missing the boat. It isn't because
most people don't eat horsemeat that slaughtering
them for food is illegal. It's because they contain
toxins, as horses are not raised for food. But if
you don't understand moral objections to eating
the family dog or cat, then you are a hopeless case.
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Yyyaaawwwnnn. It is NOT illegal to slaughter and eat horses in the USA or Europe or Canada or Asia. It is only illegal to sell it in the USA. What that means is that I can slaughter and eat all the horses I can obtain if I so choose. And my federal tax dollars are already subsidizing many, many things I don't approve of and I'm not howling about "government oppression", but thanks for more embellishment and theater.

Control freak: Someone who goes out of his way to thwart, control and/or forcibly deny the decisions and behaviors of others.-- That would be YOU considering I don't care if folks eat horsemeat. That's their business, not yours.
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USA R0CKS wrote:
I don't understand why eating cat/dog is illegal either. Most people don't eat lamb. Should that be illegal too? Most people don't eat caviar. should that be illegal too?
Actually, it is legal in numerous states to slaughter and consume cats and dogs. Only the sale of slaughtered meat is prohibited. It is also legal on most Indian reservations.
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Snake head still alive after chopped off made me laugh. hopefully this will cheer up the vegans here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-23937...
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well this is casting pearls before swine in the
case of two commentors but this is for the sake
of others in New Mexico or Texas who don't want
horse slaughter in their states.

Fact: it is not legal in the United States or
Europe now to sell horse meat which can't document
its use of drugs during raising. It has always
been illegal by federal law to sell wildhorses to
slaughter.

Opinion: that you don't care whether or not people
don't eat horse meat is quite irrelevant since you
wish to force them to pay taxes to play for USDA
inspectors at each horse plant to enable the
slaughterhorse industry to begin again. Here's your
argument: "I don't care if other people eat horse
meat but I do wish to force them to pay for the
slaughtering of it." So your forcing them to abide
by your decision, against the majority of public
opinion, but you're not a control freak ?

Fact check: name the states in which it is legal
to consume cats and dogs! You could slaughter and
eat your own dog or cat and not run afoul of
cruelty laws as long as you didn't sell the meat
to others ? Where ? In Midland Texas ? Only in
your own diseased imagination ! Name the states
reality check and prove it !

Opinion: this sounds like one of Slaughterhouse
Sue's arguments, as I've seen it many times before.
"My federal tax money supports many things I don't
approve of so I might as well add one more voluntarily ?" Why ? Are you a fool or have you
just given up and want everyone else to become
a slave like yourself ? If the federal government
decides to tax churches would you just go along
with that too ? One thing that will never be
overtaxed in Midland Texas (if that's where you are
really from) is moral imagination that's for
certain. Moral imagination means seeing the effect
of your tax dollars on causing other people's
hardships: like horse owners who would have to
invest a fortune in new security against horse
thieves if slaughter plants resume operations.
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Shane wrote:
Fact check: name the states in which it is legal to consume cats and dogs! You could slaughter and
eat your own dog or cat and not run afoul of
cruelty laws as long as you didn't sell the meat
to others ? Where ? In Midland Texas ? Only in
your own diseased imagination ! Name the states
reality check and prove it !
"Few states have specific laws barring the use of pets for food."
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politi...
Better yet, you show me the statutes in all 50 states that prohibit the use of cats or dogs as food. Save your time, you can't do it because these laws don't exist in most states.
Shane wrote:
If the federal government decides to tax churches would you just go alongwith that too ?
Yes, because I see churches as a business. Why should they get a pass ?
Shane wrote:
One thing that will never be overtaxed in Midland Texas (if that's where you are
really from) is moral imagination that's for certain.
So I should just accept and adopt your subjective morality as my own ? Don't hold your breath, comrade.
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to reality check : you failed the fact check. I
asked for specific states in which a person can
kill and eat their own cat or dog without soon having
the Sheriff's deputy at their door - if their
neighbors didn't lynch them first! Instead you give
me a link to a heresay opinion about law. Name the
specific states in which a person, without violating
animal cruelty laws, can slaughter a dog cat or horse
for that matter in their own back yard and eat it.
The fact that you seem to believe people have an
absolute right to behave in this manner, Hannibal
Lecter, makes you suspiciously akin to Slaughter
House Sue Wallis herself (this isn't really you is
it Sue ?) Don't dodge the argument by saying I
have to prove a negative that a law doesn't exist.
You said confidently that in many states there
are laws permitting this. You must have some in
mind when you said it, unless you were pulling the
argument out of your own rear end. What are they?
You began this argument posing as if you were
supporting local rights against federal but now
it would appear you are a poser supreme. Any
federal tax which is imposed upon people against
their will you will knuckle under and then seek
to rationalize it. You are a slave, not a free
person. As for subjective morality, since 80 % of
people oppose horse slaughter for human consumption, my opinion is hardly subjective as
it is shared by many millions - yours by a small
minority. Congress has already voted to defund
federal money for horse meat inspection. They can't
even afford inspections for beef, pork, poultry
which most Americans do eat why on earth should they pay for inspections of horse meat which they
don't eat ? Explain how an opinion is "subjective"
if it also held by 80 % of the American public.
This fact creation on the spot which you are then
unable to prove is another hallmark of Slaughterhouse Sue. Are you perhaps the unnatural
offspring of her and Hannibal Lecter ? That would
explain your strange believe that animals can be
tortured without legal recourse because they are
"property". Ask your lawyer in Midland Texas if that's true. It ain't. Name the states or admit you
made that factoid up yourself, reality check.
Checkmate. Game over.
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Shane wrote:
Don't dodge the argument by saying I
have to prove a negative that a law doesn't exist.
You're the doofus saying eating cat and/or dog is illegal. Now all you have to do is give us a link to the state statutes that prohibit this practice. You will find some but not many. So you are incorrect in asserting it is illegal in all states. That's the long and short of the matter and your wishful thinking isn't going to change the facts.

The rest of your diatribe is, well... more horseshit.

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