On the Spectrum -- Farmers' markets should accept 'food stamps'

Assembly Bill 537, authored by State Assemblymember Juan Arambula, would require farmers' markets to accept the electronic benefits transfer card that is commonly referred to as "food stamps." I believe this is an idea worth supporting. Full Story
bass guy

Clearlake, CA

#28 Aug 5, 2010
Poor souls wrote:
So the farmer has to take more time out of his day to go cash in his funny money! NOT! go to safeway where they are set up for them.
Funny money is better than no money, you obviously have never been on the recieving end of WIC, food stamps or commodities, or if you had maybe you forgot what it's like to have to go to some government agency for help.
There are legitimate recipients of these types of help, not everyone is a freeloader. And as one other person commented, they don't want to have to take things back with them.
Take the money and deal with the extra work that might be involved and be thankful that you sold all of your produce.
Provocateur

United States

#29 Aug 5, 2010
Heaven forbid we put some more money into our friends and neighbors pocket.
Guest

San Jose, CA

#30 Aug 5, 2010
Donna Christopher wrote:
High Prices - you mean those cheap peaches picked by illegal workers the entire nation is doing a meltdown over? Make up your mind - immigration reform or cheap produce!
You do a disservice to legal seasonal workers and employers that strive to do the right thing by making such a sweeping and ill-founded accusation. Many, many seasonal workers are legal and generalizing all who work seasonally as 'illegals' is just another negatively contributing symptom which only adds to the emotion of the immigration issue. And 'cheap' peaches?" Do you think that $1.59 price is cheap to people in tough times or that that is the price the growers are getting? Please be fair and informed if you really want to be a part of the solution.
Provocateur

United States

#31 Aug 5, 2010
gdubia wrote:
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So I guess you don't mind that people can use food stamps to buy take and bake pizza (cecil's in clearlake), as well as sandwiches from the safeway deli. If I were on hard times, and concerned for my family's ability to eat, I sure the hell wouldn't be out buying a pizza for $15, but I guess if I was working under the table and the food stamps were free money -why not! There has to be some balance but I do not believe that we need to create laws telling businesses what forms of payment they have to take. I also believe that people need to understand that while the government has agreed to provide sustenance (food in this case) to people that cannot afford it, they are not ENTITLED to the best of the best. There are meals that I cannot afford to eat every day, where's my entitlement!
Telling people what to eat and how to pay for it. Sounds exactly like your namesake.
LTZ

United States

#32 Aug 5, 2010
bass guy wrote:
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Funny money is better than no money, you obviously have never been on the recieving end of WIC, food stamps or commodities, or if you had maybe you forgot what it's like to have to go to some government agency for help.
There are legitimate recipients of these types of help, not everyone is a freeloader. And as one other person commented, they don't want to have to take things back with them.
Take the money and deal with the extra work that might be involved and be thankful that you sold all of your produce.
I can honestly say that I have never been a freeloa...ahem on any form of aid, I worked hard and then harder and then paid for my own education, with no student loans, while working I might add and raising children, and then worked even harder. And again, I am tired of the government sticking their nose into everything/anything possible and trying to control everything!
Blowing your horn

Fort Dodge, IA

#33 Aug 5, 2010
LTZ wrote:
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I can honestly say that I have never been a freeloa...ahem on any form of aid, I worked hard and then harder and then paid for my own education, with no student loans, while working I might add and raising children, and then worked even harder. And again, I am tired of the government sticking their nose into everything/anything possible and trying to control everything!
Pretty close to perfect heh?
Donna Christopher

Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#34 Aug 5, 2010
Calling bull pucky LTZ. Very long time ago had to make use of food stamps for a very brief period. Hard working tax payin' woman who had a complicated pregnancy/delivery for more than the 90 days allowed to recuperate. No insurance at the time and paying that bill, and all the other monthly bills wiped out the savings. Hated doing it, but kept reminding myself how many years I'd already paid into the system and how many more years I'd be doing that. Now, had the disability I'd paid into been paid to me, I wouldn't have had to file for them. It was the first year CA didn't pass a budget (Dukemejian) and they sent out the unemployment checks. And they sent out the welfare checks. But not the disability checks. Heh, go figure.

There is no substitute for hardwork. And there is no absolute guarantee you won't hit a rough patch. Long as you get back up, dust yourself off and get back with it - that is exactly why I don't mind contributing to a safety net. Making a career of entitlements is an entirely different matter and deserves more than broad brush generalities.
Donna Christopher

Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#35 Aug 5, 2010
Guest - reread my post with either your satire on or tongue firmly planted in cheek. Jinkies - haven't you seen the news lately? Or read the tactile version of the RB?
Live in the Present

Clearlake, CA

#36 Aug 6, 2010
Donna Christopher wrote:
Yeah, you're right poor soul. That is to much to ask of the poor farmer - to walk all that way! Probably has to walk by the guy on his way out of the market area but hey, no one forces you to make more money. I'd like to hear from some growers - would you rather walk across the lot to cash in your chips or walk across the lot taking back that which you did not sell?
So Donna what are you a lifelong MOOCH? You pay for me You do for me.
Karma

Fort Dodge, IA

#37 Aug 6, 2010
Live in the Present wrote:
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So Donna what are you a lifelong MOOCH? You pay for me You do for me.
Unnecessary. You missed the point entirely.
Karma Does Not Get It

Clearlake, CA

#38 Aug 7, 2010
Karma wrote:
<quoted text>Unnecessary. You missed the point entirely.
As and individual I can select my source of income and it doesn't have to be a debit card.
Now go work for a living it may be and unusaul concept for you.
Ass ume

Fort Dodge, IA

#39 Aug 7, 2010
Karma Does Not Get It wrote:
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As and individual I can select my source of income and it doesn't have to be a debit card.
Now go work for a living it may be and unusaul concept for you.
"You can select your source of income" >>> What? Do you sell or make drugs/pot or something? How does one 'select' their source of income?

FYI : Been working since I was 15! So no, NOT an unusual concept for me. How about you?

BTW : Smarty pants >>> "unusaul" is spelled 'unusual'

P.S. You do not get it....Assume nothing.
Assume

Fort Dodge, IA

#40 Aug 7, 2010
Assume is a bad word? Geeez.
Donna Christopher

Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#41 Aug 7, 2010
Karma DOESN'T get it - many people us debit cards. They are used by folks to get money from their own accounts, that they worked for a deposited in a bank. But painting with that broad faux colored brush is just so much easier than actual independant thinking.

Remember way back when America was appalled by ignorance. Now, thanks to Ailes 3 million regularly and proudly wallow in it.
Assume nothing

Fort Dodge, IA

#42 Aug 7, 2010
Yes Donna. Most folks KNOW that a debit card is linked to their personal accounts. Like I said before "karma doesn't get it" they missed the point, they are VERY judgemental and too quick to assume....and we all know what that does. LOL.
LTZ

Pacifica, CA

#43 Aug 8, 2010
Blowing your horn wrote:
<quoted text>Pretty close to perfect heh?
Not anywhere close to "perfect", but have enough pride that I would rather fine more work to do than be standing in a line for a handout. Just saying that it can be done, before there was all this social structure, people found a way. This country has grown to rely too much on others to care for them.
Provocateur

United States

#44 Aug 8, 2010
I'd like to see farmers markets every day not just on weekends.
Humanitarian

Fort Dodge, IA

#45 Aug 8, 2010
I know some families that are absolutely struggling finacially. They worked hard all their lives. Now, can barely feed their families, make their bills, losing their homes, and have lost alot due to the economic disaster left by the past Administration. Very sad.
Provocateur

United States

#46 Aug 8, 2010
That's the sad picture of it Humanitarian. And it's only getting worse. How about a centrally located high exposure (hiway 20) rain or shine everyday market for the farmers for yard and garage sale people for everybody.
Humanitarian

Fort Dodge, IA

#47 Aug 8, 2010
Provocateur wrote:
That's the sad picture of it Humanitarian. And it's only getting worse. How about a centrally located high exposure (hiway 20) rain or shine everyday market for the farmers for yard and garage sale people for everybody.
Yes, it's a very sad picture. Your idea....Sounds interesting. Non-profit. It would have to be in doors in the winter. The Fairgrounds would be a excellent location, but those building are in use throught the course of the year. The Bowling Alley in Lakeport has lots of empty buildings (when it used to be a shopping center many moons ago). Need community involvement donations/volunteerism to help with rent/utilities/ maintenance/rest room facilities. It could be run like a co-op of sorts. What about liabilty insurance, would that be required? Also, permits probably be required if located within city limits. Geeez, you never know. But, yes....I like your idea Provo. Could benefit many!

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