Area Farmers React to SNAP Being Left Out of Farm Bill

Kyle Gardiner helps families supported by the SNAP program buy groceries at the Charlottesville Farmer's Market through the non-profit market central. Full Story
Soledad

Charlottesville, VA

#42 Jul 14, 2013
farmer wrote:
<quoted text>
there is at least one department of agriculture employee per farm in the united states. yet local counties only have a few working with farmers in covering 4 and 5 counties worth of farms. why is this the case? they are giving out food food stamps [no I am not trying to be politically correct]. While the SNAP program is important it needs to stand on its own entirely separate from the farm bill and that is the approach the house is using. this will also require the farm bill to stand on its own. If the government would stay out of the farming bossiness [I mean business] farmers may actually make a decent profit at an economical price to the consumer. If you really want to reduce your food bill stop burning ethanol in the gas tank!
Please do remember that these moves come on top of severe cuts that took place in 2010, when Congress slashed more than $14 billion from SNAP!

The SNAP program is our nation's most effective program in fighting hunger, the Farm Bill also funds programs that supply food banks across the country. These programs include: Emergency Food Assistance Program and the Commodity Supplemental Food Program. Not to sound too political here, but Congress will slash it again, especially if it's taken out of the Farm Bill. We've been funding this program this way for a very long time. The reason the GOP wants to make a change now, is to slash its funding, period!
Soledad

Charlottesville, VA

#43 Jul 14, 2013
Im Ya Huckleberry wrote:
<quoted text>Where are the minors fathers and why are they not providing for their children??
You do realize the funding of SNAP is not only to help feed veterans families, it also provides needed assistance across the country for emergency food banks (storms, tornadoes, hurricanes, natural disasters)and the Commodity Supplemental Food Program. Please check your fact before you spew off hate about the "absent" Fathers Mr.Huckleberry.

“Don't Drink The Obama Kool-Aid”

Since: Aug 09

You don't need to know, Va.

#44 Jul 14, 2013
"Obama administration officials have insisted that their decision to grant states waivers to redefine work requirements for welfare recipients would not “gut” the landmark 1996 welfare reform law. But a new report from the Congressional Research Service obtained by the Washington Examiner suggests that the administration’s suspension of a separate welfare work requirement has already helped explode the number of able-bodied Americans on food stamps.

In addition to the broader work requirement that has become a contentious issue in the presidential race, the 1996 welfare reform law included a separate rule encouraging able-bodied adults without dependents to work by limiting the amount of time they could receive food stamps. President Obama suspended that rule when he signed his economic stimulus legislation into law, and the number of these adults on food stamps doubled, from 1.9 million in 2008 to 3.9 million in 2010, according to the CRS report, issued in the form of a memo to House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va.

“This report once again confirms that President Obama has severely gutted the welfare work requirements that Americans have overwhelmingly supported since President Clinton signed them into law,” Cantor said in an emailed statement.“It’s time to reinstate these common-sense measures, and focus on creating job growth for those in need.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/19/welfare...

Like I said earlier, "The problem with all these food giveaways without a work requirement is that it robs a man of the dignity of providing for his family."

You Democrats could care less about a man's dignity as long as he votes Democratic.
farmer

United States

#45 Jul 14, 2013
questionable wrote:
Why is there a 'farm bill'? Farmers shouldn't get handouts either. Why are MY tax dollars supporting farmers? I should have bought a farm instead of a house so I could get some subsidies too.
Why you ask? So the government can control how much you pay for food. No farm bill no cost control and a truly free market economy. Just watch out for the drought years.
The Dude

Bumpass, VA

#46 Jul 14, 2013
Soledad wrote:
<quoted text>
Please do remember that these moves come on top of severe cuts that took place in 2010, when Congress slashed more than $14 billion from SNAP!
The SNAP program is our nation's most effective program in fighting hunger, the Farm Bill also funds programs that supply food banks across the country. These programs include: Emergency Food Assistance Program and the Commodity Supplemental Food Program. Not to sound too political here, but Congress will slash it again, especially if it's taken out of the Farm Bill. We've been funding this program this way for a very long time. The reason the GOP wants to make a change now, is to slash its funding, period!
His argument appears to be to get the government out of the farm business, period. No price floors on sugar giving competitive advantage to corn, etc.
Kathy Kildea

Rocky Mount, VA

#47 Jul 14, 2013
frmr wrote:
Last year I heard a presentation by a person in charge of a farmer's market in a county close by. She was telling us about the grant they had received that allowed them to have the machines so people with SNAP and EBT cards could have the fresh produce. I agree that is a wonderful idea. However, she was over the moon because their group had figured a way to double whatever the SNAP and EBT card users spent. If they spent $10 in SNAP, they could get another $10 worth of products free. Cash buyers did not get matching amounts. That seems to punish the people who are able to pay for their own food. Didn't seem quite right to me.
ummm... not quite. They didn't 'figure out a way' to do this. They found grant money to do this. There is a private organization, founded by Paul Newman, that funds this program here in Charlottesville, and it's an effort to get fresh, local foods into the kitchens of the people in our community who rely on SNAP benefits to feed their family. The Wholesome Wave Foundation ( http://wholesomewave.org/dvcp/ ) believes that "Implementing an incentive program, such as DVCP, at farm-to-retail venues has the potential to increase the consumption of healthy produce by participating community members and support the viability of small and midsize farms by creating new revenue streams." win. win. win. win.
The Dude

Bumpass, VA

#48 Jul 14, 2013
Im Ya Huckleberry wrote:
"Obama administration officials have insisted that their decision to grant states waivers to redefine work requirements for welfare recipients would not “gut” the landmark 1996 welfare reform law. But a new report from the Congressional Research Service obtained by the Washington Examiner suggests that the administration’s suspension of a separate welfare work requirement has already helped explode the number of able-bodied Americans on food stamps.
In addition to the broader work requirement that has become a contentious issue in the presidential race, the 1996 welfare reform law included a separate rule encouraging able-bodied adults without dependents to work by limiting the amount of time they could receive food stamps. President Obama suspended that rule when he signed his economic stimulus legislation into law, and the number of these adults on food stamps doubled, from 1.9 million in 2008 to 3.9 million in 2010, according to the CRS report, issued in the form of a memo to House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va.
“This report once again confirms that President Obama has severely gutted the welfare work requirements that Americans have overwhelmingly supported since President Clinton signed them into law,” Cantor said in an emailed statement.“It’s time to reinstate these common-sense measures, and focus on creating job growth for those in need.”
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/19/welfare...
Like I said earlier, "The problem with all these food giveaways without a work requirement is that it robs a man of the dignity of providing for his family."
You Democrats could care less about a man's dignity as long as he votes Democratic.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/state...
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PANTS ON FIRE
and the whole work thing... not true
.
The truth is 41% of those who receive food stamps work, and 47% are children comprising 88% of all recipients, add in old people and you get a total 96% of people on food stamps.
.
No matter how many times you tell a lie, it's still a lie...
and this isn't the first time you've posted this lie,
CvilleGordo

Charlottesville, VA

#49 Jul 14, 2013
Bubbles wrote:
This article calls the SNAP program to be costly. It's so costly it's not even mentioned in this article how much it cost? Sounds like selfish Republicans hard at work. I spend $10 a week with my SNAP card at the Farmer's Market. When I have the cash, I will spend that at the Market as well. Using the funds for the local market is better than using a chain grocery store. The grocery chains are after the money generated by using the cards and as a collective it's big bucks, but their food and goods are generally not the best this area has to offer.
Wow. Talk about "low information voters." Annual cost of SNAP? Google that. Here, I did it for you:

http://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/SNAPsummary.htm

As for your astonishing revelation that grocery chains are "after the money" - wow, you think? But wait, if they are not after the money like those evil big chains, what are the farmer's market's after; good cheer? Get back in your tent, you must have a donated tofuburger that needs to be slurped, Occutard.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#51 Jul 14, 2013
CvilleGordo wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow. Talk about "low information voters." Annual cost of SNAP? Google that. Here, I did it for you:
http://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/SNAPsummary.htm
As for your astonishing revelation that grocery chains are "after the money" - wow, you think? But wait, if they are not after the money like those evil big chains, what are the farmer's market's after; good cheer? Get back in your tent, you must have a donated tofuburger that needs to be slurped, Occutard.
another obfuscation
as if farmer's markets influence the GOP (the best polititians money can buy) subsidy giveway to big ag at taxpayer's expense
CvilleGordo

Charlottesville, VA

#52 Jul 14, 2013
huck wrote:
<quoted text>
another obfuscation
as if farmer's markets influence the GOP (the best polititians money can buy) subsidy giveway to big ag at taxpayer's expense
Well, all beclouding aside; my cynicism was primarily targeting the random talking point-dropping demonstrated by the tofu-slurping poster. Where did he/she/it coherently raise any points regarding the GOP, big ag, big chain influence, subsidies, or taxpayers? I missed it perhaps. But I do, I say I do, looove to poke fun at a typical low information, clueless (pick one) BuyLocaltard/Occutard/Wagetard /Libtard - etc.

Slurp!
Soledad

Charlottesville, VA

#53 Jul 14, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/state...
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PANTS ON FIRE
and the whole work thing... not true
.
The truth is 41% of those who receive food stamps work, and 47% are children comprising 88% of all recipients, add in old people and you get a total 96% of people on food stamps.
.
No matter how many times you tell a lie, it's still a lie...
and this isn't the first time you've posted this lie,
Thanks for putting the actual facts from a non-political fact checker. BTW the hotair.com cited by The dude is a highly controversial GOP run web site. SNAP is very beneficial to a wide range of folks in our area. Thank you for clearing up the supposition by the dude's examination of SNAP program.
Soledad

Charlottesville, VA

#54 Jul 14, 2013
CvilleGordo wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, all beclouding aside; my cynicism was primarily targeting the random talking point-dropping demonstrated by the tofu-slurping poster. Where did he/she/it coherently raise any points regarding the GOP, big ag, big chain influence, subsidies, or taxpayers? I missed it perhaps. But I do, I say I do, looove to poke fun at a typical low information, clueless (pick one) BuyLocaltard/Occutard/Wagetard /Libtard - etc.
Slurp!
CLARIFICATION: You are correct & Huck was the one citing the biased analysis of SNAP.
MY BAD :(( Apologies !
vet farmer

United States

#55 Jul 14, 2013
hondacivic wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't mean to infuriate you. Just trying to show the GOP that the stereotypical "poor" is not what who like to make it seem.
Back when I served many enlisted personnel with families received food stamps as a result of President Jimmy Carter's policies as well as extreme inflation. This is not new but yet you point fingers at the GOP. Food stamps do not belong on the farm bill but under its own bill! when will you bleeding heart panty wasted liberal want-a-be do gooder's get that through your dense skulls?
hondacivic

Staunton, VA

#56 Jul 14, 2013
vet farmer wrote:
<quoted text>
Back when I served many enlisted personnel with families received food stamps as a result of President Jimmy Carter's policies as well as extreme inflation. This is not new but yet you point fingers at the GOP. Food stamps do not belong on the farm bill but under its own bill! when will you bleeding heart panty wasted liberal want-a-be do gooder's get that through your dense skulls?
Yes, I will point fingers. It is the GOP that has put a war on the poor and pushed their agenda that all the poor are lazy. If they want to put the military in the "lazy" basket, it is sad. When will you wet dreaming, we hate the poor, black, women, immigrant, self righteous "I got mine" conservatives with no compassion for any human beings get that through your dense skulls?
CvilleGordo

Charlottesville, VA

#57 Jul 14, 2013
hondacivic wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I will point fingers. It is the GOP that has put a war on the poor and pushed their agenda that all the poor are lazy. If they want to put the military in the "lazy" basket, it is sad. When will you wet dreaming, we hate the poor, black, women, immigrant, self righteous "I got mine" conservatives with no compassion for any human beings get that through your dense skulls?
Is it hard to walk in your big clown shoes? What a bunch of ganja-flavored baloney. Your shrill libtard talking points don't work on anyone other than your fellow low information voters, so save your tofu-flavored breath.
Slurp!
hondacivic

Staunton, VA

#58 Jul 14, 2013
CvilleGordo wrote:
<quoted text>
Is it hard to walk in your big clown shoes? What a bunch of ganja-flavored baloney. Your shrill libtard talking points don't work on anyone other than your fellow low information voters, so save your tofu-flavored breath.
Slurp!
All praise your great wisdom! With your "low information" quotes, Rush would be so proud. Sorry to break your heart, but I have never tried tofu and don't intend to. I don't really care if they work on anyone or not. If you hate to open your eyes to see the truth, we shall see who is the low information one.

“Don't Drink The Obama Kool-Aid”

Since: Aug 09

You don't need to know, Va.

#59 Jul 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/state...
.
PANTS ON FIRE
and the whole work thing... not true
.
The truth is 41% of those who receive food stamps work, and 47% are children comprising 88% of all recipients, add in old people and you get a total 96% of people on food stamps.
.
No matter how many times you tell a lie, it's still a lie...
and this isn't the first time you've posted this lie,
So I guess the Library of Congress Congressional Research Service are all a bunch of liars? And no I have never posted the "lie" you accuse me of.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/106346145/CRS-Memo-...
The Dude

Bumpass, VA

#60 Jul 15, 2013
Im Ya Huckleberry wrote:
<quoted text>So I guess the Library of Congress Congressional Research Service are all a bunch of liars? And no I have never posted the "lie" you accuse me of.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/106346145/CRS-Memo-...
I guess you overlooked the statement in that it was a part of ARRA of 2009 and that: "During the requested period of interrest, FY2007-FY2012, this suspension was the only time in which all states could suspend their enforcement of the ABAWD Rule.

Please note: during the ARRA suspension of the ABAWD rule, states were still able to choose to enforce the rule in the entire state or portions of the state..."

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story bro
Rockfish Hiker

Waynesboro, VA

#61 Jul 15, 2013
Sorry, but when I have to buy generic products to make ends meet, I have a real problem with SNAP holders being able to shop at a farmer's market. If the state would adjust the program so that SANP holders would have to pay the difference between generic and anything else they buy I would support the bill.
The Dude

Bumpass, VA

#62 Jul 15, 2013
Rockfish Hiker wrote:
Sorry, but when I have to buy generic products to make ends meet, I have a real problem with SNAP holders being able to shop at a farmer's market. If the state would adjust the program so that SANP holders would have to pay the difference between generic and anything else they buy I would support the bill.
I have less of a problem with them being able to by produce at farmer's markets than I do with them being used to purchase hot pockets at 7/11, or filet mignon, but that's not what the topic is. That is a topic that should be discussed, though.

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