Area Farmers React to SNAP Being Left Out of Farm Bill

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Kyle Gardiner helps families supported by the SNAP program buy groceries at the Charlottesville Farmer's Market through the non-profit market central.
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Wow angry much! You do realize that SNAP helps veterans and their families along with helping to feed the hungry children of Virginia? BTW they are not "stuffing their faces" on SNAP, they are EATING vital nutrients especially when they buy from local farmers!
there is at least one department of agriculture employee per farm in the united states. yet local counties only have a few working with farmers in covering 4 and 5 counties worth of farms. why is this the case? they are giving out food food stamps [no I am not trying to be politically correct]. While the SNAP program is important it needs to stand on its own entirely separate from the farm bill and that is the approach the house is using. this will also require the farm bill to stand on its own. If the government would stay out of the farming bossiness [I mean business] farmers may actually make a decent profit at an economical price to the consumer. If you really want to reduce your food bill stop burning ethanol in the gas tank!
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there is at least one department of agriculture employee per farm in the united states. yet local counties only have a few working with farmers in covering 4 and 5 counties worth of farms. why is this the case? they are giving out food food stamps [no I am not trying to be politically correct]. While the SNAP program is important it needs to stand on its own entirely separate from the farm bill and that is the approach the house is using. this will also require the farm bill to stand on its own. If the government would stay out of the farming bossiness [I mean business] farmers may actually make a decent profit at an economical price to the consumer. If you really want to reduce your food bill stop burning ethanol in the gas tank!
I agree, end all farm subsidies. Good post.

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The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>The vast majority(97%)of people on food stamps are seniors(8%), minors (41%), or actually work (47%).
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politics/...
Why is it that BigAg, National Association of Convenience Store Operators, and the National Restaurant Association are the biggest lobbies FOR food stamps?
Where are the minors fathers and why are they not providing for their children??
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Why is there a 'farm bill'? Farmers shouldn't get handouts either. Why are MY tax dollars supporting farmers? I should have bought a farm instead of a house so I could get some subsidies too.
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<quoted text>Where are the minors fathers and why are they not providing for their children??
I would imagine their fathers are working at walmart and paying as much child support by percentage as they have to. A quick look appears that it may be as much as 40% of a non-custodial parent's income. I do, however, believe that you are suggesting that there are too few fathers paying child support or not taking an active role in their offspring's life. If that is the case, what do you suggest?
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I would imagine that their custodial parent is working at walmart .(in the morning) and McDonald's (in the evening).

I was just debunking your myth that those who are on food stamps don't work.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/04/news/companie...

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I would imagine their fathers are working at walmart and paying as much child support by percentage as they have to. A quick look appears that it may be as much as 40% of a non-custodial parent's income. I do, however, believe that you are suggesting that there are too few fathers paying child support or not taking an active role in their offspring's life. If that is the case, what do you suggest?
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I would imagine that their custodial parent is working at walmart .(in the morning) and McDonald's (in the evening).
I was just debunking your myth that those who are on food stamps don't work.
http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/04/news/companie...
There are far too many father's not paying child support or taking an active interest in their offspring's life. Look at the link you posted. No where does it cite the father's involvement. The solution is to insist that the child's father be held accountable for his offspring instead of the taxpayer. And you did nothing to debunk the "myth".
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<quoted text>There are far too many father's not paying child support or taking an active interest in their offspring's life. Look at the link you posted. No where does it cite the father's involvement. The solution is to insist that the child's father be held accountable for his offspring instead of the taxpayer. And you did nothing to debunk the "myth".
Outside of the your accusation, you can't prove that they're not, or the other host of factors that may apply, such as; they are working and paying as a percentage of their paycheck but the single mother still qualifies for food stamps, or they're prison, or they're disabled, or a whole host of factors you chose to conveniently ignore.
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Yes I did, 97% are either old, working or are children.
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*in prison
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<quoted text>You really don't get it do you? When you give a man a fish, he eats for the day. When you teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime. The problem with all these food giveaways without a work requirement is that it robs a man of the dignity of providing for his family.
Ahhh yes, the old fish analogy. When it's more convenient to belittle and blame the poor. The GOP has done a nice job of painting this picture of the poor as some lazy bum who doesn't work or want to. Of some 300 pound woman sitting on her couch with 8 kids eating steak, or as one Congressman put it "king lobster". The average person on food stamps gets about $1.50 per meal for the month. I would love to see that person be able to buy fish and something else for that meal with $1.50. You will just be able to a can of tuna for that. That is one of the problems with receiving just a small amount on food stamps. It is usually only unhealthy foods that can be bought with the amount of money to make it last the entire month.

http://feedingamerica.org/how-we-fight-hunger...

Yes it would be wonderful if both parents were in their kids life and supported them, but that is not reality. So should we punish the hungry children? It would also be wonderful if the food stamp recipients could grow their own food in a garden. If the majority of the poor weren't working and had time to tend to a garden. Some have hours of commute time to work. Visit some major cities and walk around. Where could you put a garden when you walk for blocks without seeing any green grass, just buildings?

There is also military families on food stamps. The Department of Agriculture report last year showed that 5,000 families listed their job title as "active military duty". Are they lazy too? Perhaps they should get a real job so they can provide for their family ![sarcasm]

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/07/13...
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There is also military families on food stamps. The Department of Agriculture report last year showed that 5,000 families listed their job title as "active military duty". Are they lazy too? Perhaps they should get a real job so they can provide for their family ![sarcasm]
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/07/13...
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I rarely get infuriated by something that anyone posts on these boards, but you just did it. I could vomit.
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So Huckleberry, while you're thanking us vets and active duty for our service, make sure the families of jr enlisted active service starve.
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I rarely get infuriated by something that anyone posts on these boards, but you just did it. I could vomit.
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So Huckleberry, while you're thanking us vets and active duty for our service, make sure the families of jr enlisted active service starve.
I didn't mean to infuriate you. Just trying to show the GOP that the stereotypical "poor" is not what who like to make it seem.

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So should we punish the hungry children? It would also be wonderful if the food stamp recipients could grow their own food in a garden. If the majority of the poor weren't working and had time to tend to a garden. Some have hours of commute time to work. Visit some major cities and walk around. Where could you put a garden when you walk for blocks without seeing any green grass, just buildings?
There is also military families on food stamps. The Department of Agriculture report last year showed that 5,000 families listed their job title as "active military duty". Are they lazy too? Perhaps they should get a real job so they can provide for their family ![sarcasm]
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/07/13...
No, you don't punish the children by making them go hungry-you punish the parents by making them go hungry or get a job.

As for the military members, "Military members who receive SNAP tend to be made up of members in junior pay grades with larger than average household sizes," said Navy Lt. Cmdr. Nate Christensen, a Defense Department spokesman." If you can't feed em-don't breed em.
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Times change, people don't. Some men just don't know how to keep their zippers up.
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Im Ya Huckleberry wrote:
<quoted text>If you can't feed em-don't breed em.
I would expect nothing less than you to say the same thing people protecting your freedoms.
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Im Ya Huckleberry wrote:
<quoted text> If you can't feed em-don't breed em.
In other words punish the kids for what their parents done to 'em.
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nice one huck
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too bad there are enough wacko hateful voters out there to put wacko hateful congressional 'leaders' in office
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<quoted text>No, you don't punish the children by making them go hungry-you punish the parents by making them go hungry or get a job.
As for the military members, "Military members who receive SNAP tend to be made up of members in junior pay grades with larger than average household sizes," said Navy Lt. Cmdr. Nate Christensen, a Defense Department spokesman." If you can't feed em-don't breed em.
And so a break down of people on SNAP assistance are children (47%), and working (41%), that's 88%, the vast majority of people on assistance work and are children.
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As to not breeding, how do you propose to legislate that?
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Fort Hood will now be 300 miles away from the nearest abortion clinic.
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<quoted text>And so a break down of people on SNAP assistance are children (47%), and working (41%), that's 88%, the vast majority of people on assistance work and are children.
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As to not breeding, how do you propose to legislate that?
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Fort Hood will now be 300 miles away from the nearest abortion clinic.
I love their argument. Abortion should be out of the question. You must have the child. But when it is born, it must be starved.
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What ridiculousness. Farm matters and SNAP should be in SEPARATE BILLS.
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What ridiculousness. Farm matters and SNAP should be in SEPARATE BILLS.
You really believe that with our current Congress? Where both sides can't seem to agree on anything. If the Farm Bill didn't have SNAP attached to it, do you think that there will be support from Congressman that represents states that don't really have agriculture interests? Likewise, it will be hard to find support for SNAP with Congressman who hate the poor. Take the immigration debate right now. The GOP knows that if they don't do something about immigration, they won't be able to win the national election for a long time. But they can't get the support in the House from Tea Party members who live in districts where there really isn't an immigration problem. So instead of doing what is right, they are worried about their next election.
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You really believe that with our current Congress? Where both sides can't seem to agree on anything. If the Farm Bill didn't have SNAP attached to it, do you think that there will be support from Congressman that represents states that don't really have agriculture interests? Likewise, it will be hard to find support for SNAP with Congressman who hate the poor. Take the immigration debate right now. The GOP knows that if they don't do something about immigration, they won't be able to win the national election for a long time. But they can't get the support in the House from Tea Party members who live in districts where there really isn't an immigration problem. So instead of doing what is right, they are worried about their next election.
Well, there's that and there's the fact that that BigAg, National Association of Convenience Store Operators, and the National Restaurant Association are the pro-food stamp biggest lobbies

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