Fast-food workers in NYC stage strike...

Fast-food workers in NYC stage strikes, rallies

There are 570 comments on the The Republic story from Jul 29, 2013, titled Fast-food workers in NYC stage strikes, rallies. In it, The Republic reports that:

Workers at McDonald's, Burger King and Wendy's restaurants across New York walked out Monday in a one-day strike to demand better pay and the right to unionize, calling for minimum wage to more than double from $7.25 to $15 an hour and the end to what activists called "abusive labor practices."

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Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#189 Aug 1, 2013
Lamer wrote:
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you just got done saying that big macs cost 7 dollars and that the price was going to double.... I believe you have already shown your ignorance on the matter. I guess you also missed all the reports from the last 2 weeks showing that the price of big macs would go up by a whopping 67cents at most and the dollar menu would increase a whole 17 cents....
But like i said, you have already shown what very little you know of the issue.
You may want to recheck your stats regarding the cost increase:

On Monday, The Huffington Post published a story entitled "Doubling McDonald's Salaries Would Cause Your Big Mac To Cost Just 68¢ More." HuffPost has since learned that the research used as the basis of the story contains significant errors that cast doubts on its claims. This story has replaced the one originally published in this space.

The story drew on data presented by Arnobio Morelix, an undergraduate student from The University Of Kansas who identified himself as a researcher for the school. In an interview, Morelix told the HuffPost that only 17.1 percent of McDonald's revenue goes toward salaries and benefits, meaning that for every dollar McDonald's earns, a little more than 17 cents goes toward the income and benefits of its employees.

However, as the Columbia Journalism Review subsequently noted, Morelix's analysis only takes into account the payroll and employee benefits of McDonald's company-operated stores while excluding franchise businesses. Prior to publication, HuffPost asked Morelix if his analysis included franchises and he said it did. He later conceded it did not. McDonald's franchises make up more than 80 percent of McDonald's restaurants worldwide. This means that a majority of the payroll and employee benefits of McDonald's workers are not included in Morelix's findings.

A typical fast-food restaurant spends 30 to 35 percent of its income on labor, according to a recent release from the Employment Policies Institute, a research organization whose work is often cited by those who argue against increasing the minimum wage. The institute estimates that small-business owners who run McDonald's franchises spend about a third of their income on wages, which would mean the price of a Big Mac would go up by $1.28 to $5.27.

A doubling of wages at McDonald's would almost certainly involve some layoffs, asserts Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research and a HuffPost blogger. At the same time, more workers would stay in their jobs longer, Baker added.

Experts generally assume that roughly one-third of the cost of increased wages gets passed on to consumers, with much of the rest of cutting into profits, Baker said. Regardless, McDonald’s is so vast and lucrative that it could easily survive a major wage increase, Baker added.

By the reckoning of Bonnie Riggs, a restaurant industry analyst at market information and advisory firm the NPD Group, a doubling of wages for all McDonald's workers is "not even in the realm of feasibility." With fewer and fewer Americans eating out at restaurants due to factors like the payroll tax hike and increases in gas prices, Riggs said restaurants like McDonald's are trying to discount prices as much as possible to get customers through the door. This means the company's profit margins could not withstand a labor cost increase of this magnitude, she added.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/29/mcdo...
Justin

United States

#191 Aug 1, 2013
You know, they really should pay those Congressional interns more than minimum wage, especially considering all the occasions where they have to work late handling those special requests.

“Valar Morghulis”

Since: Jun 13

All Men Must Die

#192 Aug 1, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
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Did just that in the 80's when I went to college and worked at the mall to get by. Why is it so different for you now? You are a victim of your own defeatism.
Oh, SURE you did. While you were living with Mommy & Daddy, eating their food and having your laundry done by "the help," you took a job at the mall so you could get that YSL purse your girlfriend wanted. Yeah, we get that.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#193 Aug 1, 2013
Lord Stannis wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, SURE you did. While you were living with Mommy & Daddy, eating their food and having your laundry done by "the help," you took a job at the mall so you could get that YSL purse your girlfriend wanted. Yeah, we get that.
And you did nothing and are now begging for a raise to the minimum wage.

Who do you think was looking to the future and who do you think couldn't see past lunch?

Back to the fryer for you.
Lamer

Hopkins, MN

#194 Aug 1, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
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You may want to recheck your stats regarding the cost increase:
On Monday, The Huffington Post published a story entitled "Doubling McDonald's Salaries Would Cause Your Big Mac To Cost Just 68¢ More." HuffPost has since learned that the research used as the basis of the story contains significant errors that cast doubts on its claims. This story has replaced the one originally published in this space.
The story drew on data presented by Arnobio Morelix, an undergraduate student from The University Of Kansas who identified himself as a researcher for the school. In an interview, Morelix told the HuffPost that only 17.1 percent of McDonald's revenue goes toward salaries and benefits, meaning that for every dollar McDonald's earns, a little more than 17 cents goes toward the income and benefits of its employees.
However, as the Columbia Journalism Review subsequently noted, Morelix's analysis only takes into account the payroll and employee benefits of McDonald's company-operated stores while excluding franchise businesses. Prior to publication, HuffPost asked Morelix if his analysis included franchises and he said it did. He later conceded it did not. McDonald's franchises make up more than 80 percent of McDonald's restaurants worldwide. This means that a majority of the payroll and employee benefits of McDonald's workers are not included in Morelix's findings.
A typical fast-food restaurant spends 30 to 35 percent of its income on labor, according to a recent release from the Employment Policies Institute, a research organization whose work is often cited by those who argue against increasing the minimum wage. The institute estimates that small-business owners who run McDonald's franchises spend about a third of their income on wages, which would mean the price of a Big Mac would go up by $1.28 to $5.27.
A doubling of wages at McDonald's would almost certainly involve some layoffs, asserts Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research and a HuffPost blogger. At the same time, more workers would stay in their jobs longer, Baker added.
Experts generally assume that roughly one-third of the cost of increased wages gets passed on to consumers, with much of the rest of cutting into profits, Baker said. Regardless, McDonald’s is so vast and lucrative that it could easily survive a major wage increase, Baker added.
By the reckoning of Bonnie Riggs, a restaurant industry analyst at market information and advisory firm the NPD Group, a doubling of wages for all McDonald's workers is "not even in the realm of feasibility." With fewer and fewer Americans eating out at restaurants due to factors like the payroll tax hike and increases in gas prices, Riggs said restaurants like McDonald's are trying to discount prices as much as possible to get customers through the door. This means the company's profit margins could not withstand a labor cost increase of this magnitude, she added.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/29/mcdo...
i guess if you had read the entire discussion you would have seen i specifially pointed out that those numbers were from Corp McDs and not franchises which make up a large majority of stores.

You can also check the time stamps and see me pointing that fact out before HuffPost decided to update their story. Thanks for trying to keep everyone honest though.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#195 Aug 1, 2013
Lamer wrote:
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i guess if you had read the entire discussion you would have seen i specifially pointed out that those numbers were from Corp McDs and not franchises which make up a large majority of stores.
You can also check the time stamps and see me pointing that fact out before HuffPost decided to update their story. Thanks for trying to keep everyone honest though.
I guess that the hard fact for many to swallow is that life, the government nor your neighbors owe you (not you particularly) anything.

What I keep hearing is that these workers are owed a living wage, however I don't hear of anyone saying McD's isn't paying a living wage so I'm going to to work for X. Problem is that X does not exist in most of their worlds as most of the unskilled work in this country has gone overseas. So instead they attempt to extort the only employment venue that will give them an opportunity. This is ingratitude at it's height.

If they are not willing to even attempt improvement of themselves, and instead partake in blaming the government, corporations and the rest of the world on their lack of skills and earning potential, then they reap what they sow.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#196 Aug 1, 2013
Lamer wrote:
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i guess if you had read the entire discussion you would have seen i specifially pointed out that those numbers were from Corp McDs and not franchises which make up a large majority of stores.
You can also check the time stamps and see me pointing that fact out before HuffPost decided to update their story. Thanks for trying to keep everyone honest though.
My apologies ... I do see your previous posts.
Joe

United States

#197 Aug 1, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>Really? How to you equate equal when one person pays for themselves and another receives aid for all or part? There is nothing wrong with receiving aid ... But then you cannot claim that you are equal. You cant have it both ways, although most of you try.
It's called equal protection under the law. You can't discriminate according to income or lack of income.
spike

Willard, OH

#198 Aug 1, 2013
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry azz, but I am educated and retired at an early age with a good pension. I've got years to go before collecting SS. It's selfish egotistical freaks, like you, who can care less about humanity and freeload off of others suffering. What goes around will come around in life.
you should stop being so selfish and adopt several of these bottom feeders and take care of all their needs for them.
Joe

United States

#199 Aug 1, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>I guess that the hard fact for many to swallow is that life, the government nor your neighbors owe you (not you particularly) anything.

What I keep hearing is that these workers are owed a living wage, however I don't hear of anyone saying McD's isn't paying a living wage so I'm going to to work for X. Problem is that X does not exist in most of their worlds as most of the unskilled work in this country has gone overseas. So instead they attempt to extort the only employment venue that will give them an opportunity. This is ingratitude at it's height.

If they are not willing to even attempt improvement of themselves, and instead partake in blaming the government, corporations and the rest of the world on their lack of skills and earning potential, then they reap what they sow.
Why do you deserve a living wage / salary, but not McDonald's workers? What makes you so special?
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#200 Aug 1, 2013
Joe wrote:
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It's called equal protection under the law. You can't discriminate according to income or lack of income.
Ok ... exactly how am I discriminating against individuals according to their income or lack there of.

Once again Joe, your lack of education shows through. Just so you are aware there are only a select set of classes which are protected against said discrimination in this country.

The idiot that cannot support themselves is not protected a protected class.

Protected classes in America:

Race – Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964

Color – Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964

Religion – Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964

National origin – Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964

Age (40 and over)– Federal: Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967

Sex – Federal: Equal Pay Act of 1963 & Civil Rights Act of 1964

Pregnancy – Federal: Pregnancy Discrimination Act

Citizenship – Federal: Immigration Reform and Control Act

Familial status - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1968 Title VIII (Housing, cannot discriminate for having children, exception for senior housing)

Disability status – Federal: Vocational Rehabilitation and Other Rehabilitation Services of 1973 & Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990

Veteran status – Federal Vietnam Era Veterans Readjustment Assistance Act of 1974; Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act

Genetic information – Federal: Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act

Get an education Joe ... it will save you from making a fool of yourself as often and may just increase your earning potential ... or stay the idiot you apparently are and continue on in poverty ... your choice.
Don Joe

Saint Paul, MN

#201 Aug 1, 2013
Far Away wrote:
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In 2003/04 I took a second job, part time, at a Wal*Mart to make ends meet. They started me at $3.00 above minimum wage, with a $.50/hr raise after a 3-month employee review. Wal*Mart pays what is prevailing and what will attract and keep employees. Wal*Mart is not evil and those people in the D.C. area would have been better off with jobs.
Walmart pays the prevailing wage??? I have heard that in N. Dakota they are even paying $18 per hour; just trying to get employees.

Walmart has also hired lobbyists to write legislation to flood the labor pool so the prevailing wage drops. Can they pay more without raising prices? Sure, you offered the proof yourself. Should the government subsidize Walmart so they can make more profit for the Walton family? I don't think so.

You make the claim that Walmart is not evil. Do you have anything to back that up?

Those people in the DC area would be better off with jobs? We agree here. It is better for the people in DC to keep the higher paying jobs they have now, than work for Walmart, or become unemployed.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#202 Aug 1, 2013
Joe wrote:
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Why do you deserve a living wage / salary, but not McDonald's workers? What makes you so special?
Lets see .... HMMMMMM .... 6 years of college, 25 years experience, drive and motivation,.... shall I go on?
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#203 Aug 1, 2013
It would be the lack of things such as the above which make you soooo un-special Joe. That's why you earn only impoverished wages.
spike

Willard, OH

#204 Aug 1, 2013
Don Joe wrote:
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Let's see. 300 people on food stamps and welfare to make up the difference between what they "earn" at Walmart, and what it takes to obtain food and shelter. Let's say the government gives them an additional $400 dollars per month just to stay alive. That is 300*400 times 3 Walmarts or 360000 per month the government has to pay to subsidize Walmart. How about this? Let the government give me $360,000 per month or $4,320,000 per year and I will open a store and pay a decent wage.
The question becomes; why do you think the Walton family needs the government to pay them an additional $4,320,000 per year? Why don't they go out and earn that money if they think they need that much more? If the Walton family gets the government to pay them that much, why can't my family get paid the same way? I would even pay taxes, which is a lot more than you can say about the Waltons.
Why don't you open a store and show everyone how it's done?
spike

Willard, OH

#205 Aug 1, 2013
Joe wrote:
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Why do you deserve a living wage / salary, but not McDonald's workers? What makes you so special?
Nothing is stopping you from paying the clerk at McDonalds double or triple for a hamburger,,,you should get started today.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#206 Aug 1, 2013
Don Joe wrote:
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Walmart pays the prevailing wage??? I have heard that in N. Dakota they are even paying $18 per hour; just trying to get employees.
Walmart has also hired lobbyists to write legislation to flood the labor pool so the prevailing wage drops. Can they pay more without raising prices? Sure, you offered the proof yourself. Should the government subsidize Walmart so they can make more profit for the Walton family? I don't think so.
You make the claim that Walmart is not evil. Do you have anything to back that up?
Those people in the DC area would be better off with jobs? We agree here. It is better for the people in DC to keep the higher paying jobs they have now, than work for Walmart, or become unemployed.
I sincerely doubt that the Walmarts which were going to be built in DC were inundated with applications from those with jobs already. The reality is more likely that 90% of applicants were unemployed to begin with.

If you think Walmart "is" evil ... do you have anything to back that up?
Colonel Robert Lee

United States

#207 Aug 1, 2013
What does that New York Mayor McCheeze have to say?
"STAND YOUR GROUND" sounds good to me.
All them Florida blacks be moving back up to
New York.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#208 Aug 1, 2013
spike wrote:
<quoted text>Why don't you open a store and show everyone how it's done?
Never stops being funny to hear those who are having trouble acquiring a minimum wage job with the minimal skills that they have, then turn around and state how "they" think that economics and business actually works. There is a reason that they are paid minimum wage, whether they like it or not.
uidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#209 Aug 1, 2013
Catch 22 , Incress in Wages and you get rising food prices, rising rents.... back to square dummies. Unless you all find reachABLE solution

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