Fast-food workers in NYC stage strikes, rallies

Jul 29, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Republic

Workers at McDonald's, Burger King and Wendy's restaurants across New York walked out Monday in a one-day strike to demand better pay and the right to unionize, calling for minimum wage to more than double from $7.25 to $15 an hour and the end to what activists called "abusive labor practices."

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<quoted text>I wouldn't put too much stock into that liberal think-tank's "findings." But the issue is complex. On the one hand, most fast food workers also receive some sort of welfare ... so it can be argued that we the taxpayers are funding fast food's business model.

On the other hand, mopping the floor at Burger King wasn't intended to be a "career." If you want to tell me that you "can't raise a family on minimum wage," I'd say of course not. But you shouldn't start a family if you're mopping floors at Burger King.

If you earn minimum wage and want to start a family... YOU SHOULD LEARN A SKILL!!! A skill other than demanding hand-outs, ideally. But that is an idea that has been eroded and attacked by liberal think tanks like the one you mentioned. It is why we are broke as a nation and will soon collapse.
Many workers at McDonald's, Wal-Mart receive welfare benefits because their wages are too low. You have billion dollar companies forcing taxpayers to subsidize their workforce because they're too greedy to pay living wages.
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I think you're paid more than you're worth.
That is why you are relegated to poverty wages Joe. Angry at those who are more motivated and successful than you because you are too stupid to figure it out yourself.
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<quoted text>Sorry azz, but I am educated and retired at an early age with a good pension. I've got years to go before collecting SS. It's selfish egotistical freaks, like you, who can care less about humanity and freeload off of others suffering. What goes around will come around in life.
You get what you earn in this life, not what you think that your entitled to.

Funny you equate not wanting to reward the unmotivated with lack of humanity. With your lofty claims gotta wonder ... retired from McD's? HAHAHAHA
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Many workers at McDonald's, Wal-Mart receive welfare benefits because their wages are too low. You have billion dollar companies forcing taxpayers to subsidize their workforce because they're too greedy to pay living wages.
Why are these workers too lazy or unmotivated to seek to improve their situations by furthering their educations? W

What gives them the right to continue to be unskilled yet demand higher wages? Its not like their burger flipping skills or shelf stocking proficiency increased such that the company can justify paying them more just because they think they deserve it.
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<quoted text>That is why you are relegated to poverty wages Joe. Angry at those who are more motivated and successful than you because you are too stupid to figure it out yourself.
McDonald's and Wal-Mart are very motivated to improving their lives with living wages and real benefits. That's why the one-day strikes are happening. Power through collective action.
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<quoted text>Interesting that you mention Natural Selection, because history and anthropology show us that it is the antisocial, selfish animals and people (like you) who get shunned by society, stripped of their status, and kicked out of the tribe to starve on their own. The ones who make themselves valuable to the community by helping out and sharing always have a place in the tribe.
Not to hurt your feelings but the world only needs so many broom pushers and toilet swabbers. I think that you over estimate the importance and social contributions of these individuals. Gotta wonder why that is? HMMMMMM

It is your wishful thinking that those like myself would be shunned, when the reality is mostly likely those like myself would be in charge just like we are now.

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<quoted text>Looks like you didn't motivate yourself and projecting. Pretty obvious your critical thinking skills are zero.
I've already gotten mine in life, through education and hard work. Never whined to my employers, but rather earned my promotions and wages the good ole American way. Hard work. You should try it, but most likely will not and will just continue to demand that which you do not deserve nor have earned.

Always funny when the beggars (those crying for more) attempt to reduce the producers to their level by accusing them of the behaviors that relegated them to beggars to begin with.
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<quoted text>Why are these workers too lazy or unmotivated to seek to improve their situations by furthering their educations? W

What gives them the right to continue to be unskilled yet demand higher wages? Its not like their burger flipping skills or shelf stocking proficiency increased such that the company can justify paying them more just because they think they deserve it.
Have you ever tried going to college while working fast-food or retail? One, it's hard enough to live on poverty wages in addition to paying tuition. Second, the work schedule isn't set. It's always chaotic. You can't plan your life, much less your week. Serious reforms are needed.
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<quoted text>When Wal-Mart comes into a community, they set out to destroy all competition. Within months they are the ONLY clothing store, grocery, hardware store, optical shop, hair and nail salon, tire store, and fast food court in town. That's when they lower everyone's hours to under 20 so they don't have to offer benefits. The workers have no where else to go and can never afford to go to college or trade school on less than $200 a week. Get your selfish head out of your a55 and learn what's happening in America!!! The 1% will NEVER help you and will do everything to keep you out of their exclusive club!!
So you mean to tell me that those who are earning less than 200.00 a week are also too stupid to figure out that they more than qualify for multiple grants for continued education, and could most likely achieve a degree on a free ride from the government? But they are smart enough to insure that they get their share of welfare and food stamps? Then they deserve to perish ignorant and in poverty.
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Have you ever tried going to college while working fast-food or retail? One, it's hard enough to live on poverty wages in addition to paying tuition. Second, the work schedule isn't set. It's always chaotic. You can't plan your life, much less your week. Serious reforms are needed.
Did just that in the 80's when I went to college and worked at the mall to get by. Why is it so different for you now? You are a victim of your own defeatism.
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<quoted text>So you mean to tell me that those who are earning less than 200.00 a week are also too stupid to figure out that they more than qualify for multiple grants for continued education, and could most likely achieve a degree on a free ride from the government? But they are smart enough to insure that they get their share of welfare and food stamps? Then they deserve to perish ignorant and in poverty.
You're such a condescending little jerk. In one post you scold fast food workers for not seeking/continuing higher education. In this post criticize those eligible for federal grants and loans as getting a "free ride from the government."
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McDonald's and Wal-Mart are very motivated to improving their lives with living wages and real benefits. That's why the one-day strikes are happening. Power through collective action.
I hope that these business's fire the lot of them. It would serve the losers right. Funny part is that there is most likely very few places that employ these unskilled idiots, so they will effectively cut off their nose despite their face.

Case in point ... DC attempted to extort higher wages from Walmart who was building 3 stores in the area and planning 3 more. When the DC legislature enacted law that stated that big box stores (they wre directly targeting Walmart by the way)had to pay 12.50hr, Walmart halted all construction and plans for the stores.

No unskilled jobs added, no reduced food and merchandise cost for those already struggling. Yeah that was a good move by DC. HAHAHAHAHA

Wal-Mart Canceling Plans for Three D.C. Stores Over 'Living Wage' Bill
http://dcist.com/2013/07/wal-mart_canceling_p...
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McDonald's and Wal-Mart are very motivated to improving their lives with living wages and real benefits. That's why the one-day strikes are happening. Power through collective action.
Wal-Mart Canceling Plans for Three D.C. Stores Over 'Living Wage' Bill
http://dcist.com/2013/07/wal-mart_canceling_p ...
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If you dont like the pay increase and hate your fellow Americans so much eat peanut butter. Mc Donalds can't afford an increase in pay give me a brake I would rather pay a dollar more for my food and see people treated fairly and I don't know why people eat so much of that crap any way it is truly bad for your blood pressure and heart it is full of chemicals lots of chemicals. 7.25 PER HR THAT IS JUST GREED. People pay more for food in the city so everything is higher so why not more pay. I live in the country you can rent a house for what you pay for a room in N.Y. AND people get 7.25 here and everything on the fast food menu is cheeper then N.Y.? I can keep going all I can say is make them pay. shut them down for a month and again and again spank them good what have you got to lose they already have you down the only place you can go is up get a night job don't give up the fight
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<quoted text>Did just that in the 80's when I went to college and worked at the mall to get by. Why is it so different for you now? You are a victim of your own defeatism.
Inflation. Higher unemployment, underemployment. Weaker unions. A mutated Republican Party.
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You're such a condescending little jerk. In one post you scold fast food workers for not seeking/continuing higher education. In this post criticize those eligible for federal grants and loans as getting a "free ride from the government."
I do encourage them to seek higher education. And yes if they obtain the said education using government funds ... then yes they are "getting a free ride from the government". Not sure where you see the conflict in my statement.

The fact that you are this obtuse is another possibility why you can't get a better job than burger flipper. But then again I already identified that you don't seem to accept any personal responsibility for your situation in life. Poor Victim.
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Inflation. Higher unemployment, underemployment. Weaker unions. A mutated Republican Party.
Poor you. All the cards stacked against you. No one wants to help you. Lots of excuses and redirection of blame. I can see why you are and will most likely always be a failure in life. It appears that you really have "nothing" to look forward to life, best to just quit now.
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If you dont like the pay increase and hate your fellow Americans so much eat peanut butter. Mc Donalds can't afford an increase in pay give me a brake I would rather pay a dollar more for my food and see people treated fairly and I don't know why people eat so much of that crap any way it is truly bad for your blood pressure and heart it is full of chemicals lots of chemicals. 7.25 PER HR THAT IS JUST GREED. People pay more for food in the city so everything is higher so why not more pay. I live in the country you can rent a house for what you pay for a room in N.Y. AND people get 7.25 here and everything on the fast food menu is cheeper then N.Y.? I can keep going all I can say is make them pay. shut them down for a month and again and again spank them good what have you got to lose they already have you down the only place you can go is up get a night job don't give up the fight
Yeah that mentality worked well with Walmart in DC. You folks are not geniuses that's for sure.

Wal-Mart Canceling Plans for Three D.C. Stores Over 'Living Wage' Bill

Wal-Mart is pulling out of two, possibly three, D.C. sites where it planned to build stores, citing the D.C. Council's impending adoption of a bill mandating large retailers pay a "living wage" to employees. The bill, which passed the on its first vote last month, will be put to a final tally Wednesday during the Council's final meeting of the current legislative session.

Representatives from Wal-Mart say the company will no longer build its planned stores at Skyland Town Center and Capitol Gateway, retail sites in Ward 7. "They're not bluffing me," Councilmember Yvette Alexander (D-Ward 7) says, having just left a meeting with the world's largest retailer. "We worked for many years to get this commitment. I really didn't think it would get to this point."

The Large Retailer Accountability Act requires companies that take in at least $1 billion in revenue annually to pay their employees at least $12.50 an hour, well above the District's minimum wage of $8.25. The bill also only applies to stores that are at least 75,000 square feet, thus exempting companies like Apple and Starbucks.

In addition to the two Ward 7 stores, Alexander's chief of staff, Ed Fisher, also says Wal-Mart's move imperils a store planned for New York Avenue and Bladensburg Road NE. Councilmember Kenyan McDuffie (D-Ward 5), who represents that area, was one of eight "yes" votes on the bill's first reading.

"That was without knowing Wal-Mart was going to pull out," says Jeannette Mobley, McDuffie's chief of staff. Mobley says her boss is "going to give this some thought" before tomorrow's Council session.

Fisher says each planned Walmart was going to have at least 300 full- and part-time employees, as well as enhance food shopping options in Ward 7, where there are only four full-service supermarkets. "We're going to have fewer options for groceries and commercial retail," Fisher says. "At least 900 people won't have an opportuntiy whether it's full-time or part-time. Whether it's a student in high school or a senior or a job someone can use as a stepping stone."

http://dcist.com/2013/07/wal-mart_canceling_p...
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<quoted text>I do encourage them to seek higher education. And yes if they obtain the said education using government funds ... then yes they are "getting a free ride from the government". Not sure where you see the conflict in my statement.

The fact that you are this obtuse is another possibility why you can't get a better job than burger flipper. But then again I already identified that you don't seem to accept any personal responsibility for your situation in life. Poor Victim.
You say it with snark. As if there is something wrong with federal grants and loans.
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It seems like a big piece of the pie is missing.

Why do companies pay the wages they do? It is the law of supply and demand. If they can pay less and get adequate workers, that is what they pay. If they have to pay more to get the people to actually do the work, they pay more. When they decide to hire, they have to calculate how much it will cost, for salary, insurance etc; and how much additional revenue that employee will bring in. If the potential employee brings in more than it costs, it makes sense to hire, and collect that additional profit to dispense to the shareholders. If there is no profit in hiring, then don't hire.

It is the law of supply and demand that makes the people willing to perform that work. If the person can get a better paying job, down the street, then it is unlikely that person would continue to work for less.

The problem is the government, in cooperation with the corporations that have been flooding the labor pool. With millions of illegals, wages have fallen. With millions of jobs being shipped overseas, wages have fallen and benefits have disappeared. With government policies of destroying the right to collective bargaining, employees cannot even bargain for their own wages. With government policies of flooding the labor pool, for many the only jobs are min wage jobs. Why would a corporation pay more than they have to?

The complaint that corporations can't find qualified people is just plain nonsense. What they mean is they can't hire people at ridiculously low wages so they want the government to flood the labor pool so they can hire and pay even less.

If you really want to stop the government from subsidizing wages at so many corporations, you have to get the government to stop the elimination of jobs policies, and let the free market take over. Stop the policies of paying corporations millions to ship jobs out of the country. Stop the policies of importing millions of people to destroy the wages of the middle class. The government must stop its collaboration with large corporations to extract the wealth from the populace and start representing the people.

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