Fast-food workers in NYC stage strike...

Fast-food workers in NYC stage strikes, rallies

There are 570 comments on the The Republic story from Jul 29, 2013, titled Fast-food workers in NYC stage strikes, rallies. In it, The Republic reports that:

Workers at McDonald's, Burger King and Wendy's restaurants across New York walked out Monday in a one-day strike to demand better pay and the right to unionize, calling for minimum wage to more than double from $7.25 to $15 an hour and the end to what activists called "abusive labor practices."

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Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#230 Aug 1, 2013
It is actually humorous reading these posts .... many of you when reading your words justify why you are paid so little.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#231 Aug 1, 2013
Why are people poor?

— Some jobs have higher rates of poverty than others. The largest group of working poor were in the service industry — 3.3 million, or 13.1 percent of all service workers. Other jobs with particularly high rates of poverty include farming, fishing, and forestry (17.1 percent) and construction and extraction (10.6 percent).

— Education levels make a huge difference. Just 2.4 percent of college-educated workers fell below the poverty line. By contrast, 9.2 percent of high-school graduates in the labor force were classified as working poor, while 20.1 of those who never finished high school fell below the line.

Since: Oct 12

Fitzgerald, GA

#232 Aug 1, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>I am a Libertarin moron....And yes the tops wages have got out of hand and are dragging this nation down.....SIMPLE FACT...Economy is like a tree...the roots and trunk are the workers and the leafs and upper bracnhes the top paided....Problem is in USA the roots and trunk have become like little saplings and the top become a sequoia.....WE THE WORKERS CAN NO LONGER SUPPORT EVERY MORE FOR THE RICH WHY WE GET LESS.....GOT IT. REVOLUTION AND WRA WILL COME IF THIS DOES NOT CHANGE....
lol

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#233 Aug 1, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure standing at the bottom of the business ladder looking up your backyard economics seem to work, however if that were true you morons would already be making 15.00 an hour for your lack of skills. The reality is "YOUR NOT".
BTW idiot, you could not even quote the statistics listed on your reference doc correctly:
"This estimate from Fast Food Nation assumes a 700,000 domestic workforce with 150% turnover rate.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/facts-about-mc...
Far from the 300% you attempt to mislead everyone with.
Would this be your high level math skills that you were professing? Would this also be why you are begging for a higher minimum wage ... flipping those burgers tiring your arm. HAHAHAHA
Sorry for you moron, but I make far more than you could dream of, and have no issues regarding fairness in the workplace.

The link provided was specifically for MCDONALDS workers - 150% turnover is horrendous regardless of what you think.

Then again, you are one in a long line of "Welfare States", taking $1.39 for every $1.00 you contribute. You're in no position to preach economics when you don't even pay your own fair share. A state tax should be in Florida's future.
sinic

United States

#235 Aug 1, 2013
"The weakness of human nature prevents men from being good judges of their own deservings." (Lewis Brandeis)

Should YOU be paid more?

Since: Oct 12

Fitzgerald, GA

#238 Aug 1, 2013
I think it's funny that if I go down to the Bottom with my pickup and say work five dollars an hour they start fighting over who loads up!!! But you get what you pay for!!! If someone is worth there salt there not going to be working for min wages but if you have a choice would you hire someone with experience for the same wage or give someone a chance with no experience? I think capitalism is the best way!!! Ive been on both side of the fence.
lame a$$ America

Owensboro, KY

#239 Aug 1, 2013
Only in Obamas America can fast food workers expect to get paid what a lot of college kids get paid for actually getting an education. You're not privileged as an American to just get decent pay. You have to Earn it. You have to work for it. You knew what they paid when you signed up. If you didn't like the pay you should've looked elsewhere. They're not gonna pay you that no matter how much you picket. So stfu and get back to work making my Big Mac morons!:)

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#240 Aug 1, 2013
[QUOTE who="lame a$$ America"]Only in Obamas America can fast food workers expect to get paid what a lot of college kids get paid for actually getting an education. You're not privileged as an American to just get decent pay. You have to Earn it. You have to work for it. You knew what they paid when you signed up. If you didn't like the pay you should've looked elsewhere. They're not gonna pay you that no matter how much you picket. So stfu and get back to work making my Big Mac morons!:)[/QUOTE]

Tell ya what tough internet guy - instead of running your mouth off here, anonymously, why don't you say that chit out loud in a McDonalds when you're ordering, how's that tough guy?

Got a big f'in mouth here - what kind of balls do you really have.

Pathetic f'in moron!!!!!!
lame a$$ America

Owensboro, KY

#241 Aug 1, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
[QUOTE who="lame a$$ America"]Only in Obamas America can fast food workers expect to get paid what a lot of college kids get paid for actually getting an education. You're not privileged as an American to just get decent pay. You have to Earn it. You have to work for it. You knew what they paid when you signed up. If you didn't like the pay you should've looked elsewhere. They're not gonna pay you that no matter how much you picket. So stfu and get back to work making my Big Mac morons!:)"

Tell ya what tough internet guy - instead of running your mouth off here, anonymously, why don't you say that chit out loud in a McDonalds when you're ordering, how's that tough guy?

Got a big f'in mouth here - what kind of balls do you really have.

Pathetic f'in moron!!!!!!
Lmao! Easy fry boy! I'm sure you do a swell job on the fryer! But you're still not getting $15 an hour. Sorry :)
lame a$$ America

Owensboro, KY

#242 Aug 1, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
[QUOTE who="lame a$$ America"]Only in Obamas America can fast food workers expect to get paid what a lot of college kids get paid for actually getting an education. You're not privileged as an American to just get decent pay. You have to Earn it. You have to work for it. You knew what they paid when you signed up. If you didn't like the pay you should've looked elsewhere. They're not gonna pay you that no matter how much you picket. So stfu and get back to work making my Big Mac morons!:)"

Tell ya what tough internet guy - instead of running your mouth off here, anonymously, why don't you say that chit out loud in a McDonalds when you're ordering, how's that tough guy?

Got a big f'in mouth here - what kind of balls do you really have.

Pathetic f'in moron!!!!!!
Oh I see. You're a liberal. Yeah you're what's wrong with America. Now you're sore because your tard of a president sucks monkey balls. So let it out if you want. Let it out on me. I can take it. We're used to packing you liberals through the shit you created anyway.
Rambeaux

Coatesville, PA

#244 Aug 1, 2013
I suppose the next time I visit NYC I will "brown bag" it.
what a nerve

New York, NY

#245 Aug 1, 2013
Rambeaux wrote:
<quoted text>I can see automation taking over in the fast-food industry. Perhaps a return to the Horn & Hardart's-style restaurant.
Yeah, bring back Horn and Hardarts, loved going to them back in the mid 50s.
what a nerve

New York, NY

#246 Aug 1, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
NYC also takes City taxes out of an employees paycheck every week, did you know this?
The price for any fast food in NYC on average is 25% higher than surrounding suburbs.
At least $10.00 per hour would be in line.$15.00 is a bit steep, I agree, but $7,25 is really crap slave wages.
My friend, Of course I know that, I've been working since 1960, in NYC, I know all about taxes being withheld here.
what a nerve

New York, NY

#247 Aug 1, 2013
Anybody else have ads by Zinc popping out on the left side of all the Topix threads? Anyone know how to get rid of it?
Joe

United States

#248 Aug 2, 2013
I will concede that the fast food worker movement has to be practical. If their pressure tactics can force McDonald's and other fast food restaurants into raising wages by 2-3 dollars it will be a victory. But why focus on just one industry when you can use your organizing power to pressure municipalities to enact living wage ordinances. The ideal route is through federal legislation in raising the minimum wage. But the GOP-controlled House presents a problem, hence the need for municipal campaigns at the moment.

Since: Jul 10

Long Beach, NY

#249 Aug 2, 2013
McDonald's is one of the largest international corporations in the world. They've innovated their way there, coming up with unique ways of dealing with supply chain issues, franchising issues, etc. I've slipped on my boots and walked down to a McDonald's in Istanbul and gotten the same food I've enjoyed on the side of the Jersey Turnpike.

I'm sure robotics companies have approached Mickey Dee's with proposals that, so far, haven't been enticing enough for McD's to make the switch. But if this unionization (more on that in a second) takes place, those robots will probably be on the way post-haste. It certainly is technically feasible to have robots take over many tasks currently executed by humans. McD's has probably resisted it due to the risk associated with being an early adopter - they would have to trust the robots and so would their customers. What's hilarious about this is, if the wages of the humans are raised to a certain point, the adoption of the robots becomes a no-brainer. This will shift the beneficiaries of the labor costs from unskilled labor to skilled labor. Manufacturers, installers, programmers, basically everyone involved with robotics, will now be receiving the money that previously would have been available the unskilled labor that currently works at McD's. These protestors are putting their currently secure positions at permanent risk by forcing the hands of their employers to innovate.

Also, it should be asked and investigated as to who is behind this sudden push to ask for a 100% raise. Who stands to gain from the unionization of these workers? I bet you'll find some people who make quite a bit more than minimum wage who are looking to further augment their earnings.

Some have brought morality into this. Would it be moral for McD's to put shareholders at significant risk to give in to these workers? Its an arbitrary choice, to screw one group in favor of another. The shareholders did nothing wrong, why should they have their investment ruined? Morality, in its true form, is not arbitrary.

Which brings me to my final point: some have been tossing accusations of being greedy in this thread.

It is the height and definition of greed to demand something that does not belong to you. And that's what these workers (and those puppeteers behind the scenes) are asking. To be paid as if they are skilled when they are not, for no other reason than they "believe" that they are worth it. That's greed. Wanting to pay a market rate for the labor being provided is not greedy, its good business sense. Something these workers clearly lack.
Joe

United States

#251 Aug 2, 2013
The Real Jimmy Crack Corn wrote:
McDonald's is one of the largest international corporations in the world. They've innovated their way there, coming up with unique ways of dealing with supply chain issues, franchising issues, etc. I've slipped on my boots and walked down to a McDonald's in Istanbul and gotten the same food I've enjoyed on the side of the Jersey Turnpike.

I'm sure robotics companies have approached Mickey Dee's with proposals that, so far, haven't been enticing enough for McD's to make the switch. But if this unionization (more on that in a second) takes place, those robots will probably be on the way post-haste. It certainly is technically feasible to have robots take over many tasks currently executed by humans. McD's has probably resisted it due to the risk associated with being an early adopter - they would have to trust the robots and so would their customers. What's hilarious about this is, if the wages of the humans are raised to a certain point, the adoption of the robots becomes a no-brainer. This will shift the beneficiaries of the labor costs from unskilled labor to skilled labor. Manufacturers, installers, programmers, basically everyone involved with robotics, will now be receiving the money that previously would have been available the unskilled labor that currently works at McD's. These protestors are putting their currently secure positions at permanent risk by forcing the hands of their employers to innovate.

Also, it should be asked and investigated as to who is behind this sudden push to ask for a 100% raise. Who stands to gain from the unionization of these workers? I bet you'll find some people who make quite a bit more than minimum wage who are looking to further augment their earnings.

Some have brought morality into this. Would it be moral for McD's to put shareholders at significant risk to give in to these workers? Its an arbitrary choice, to screw one group in favor of another. The shareholders did nothing wrong, why should they have their investment ruined? Morality, in its true form, is not arbitrary.

Which brings me to my final point: some have been tossing accusations of being greedy in this thread.

It is the height and definition of greed to demand something that does not belong to you. And that's what these workers (and those puppeteers behind the scenes) are asking. To be paid as if they are skilled when they are not, for no other reason than they "believe" that they are worth it. That's greed. Wanting to pay a market rate for the labor being provided is not greedy, its good business sense. Something these workers clearly lack.
Talk about spinning from the 1%!!!!

This guy is worried about well-to-do shareholders but doesn't give a damn about low-wage workers struggling to survive.

And once again, I will ask --- who generates the profits for McDonald's? Not the CEO. Not the shareholders? The restaurant workers. The people who cook and serve the meals. The people who offer customer service and fix any problems that may arise. The people who the restaurant clean to meet health laws and ensure customers return. It takes communication, cooking and sanitation skills to run a McDonald's.
Triumphant

Temple City, CA

#252 Aug 2, 2013
lolol wrote:
coming soon, all striking fast food workers will be replaced by amnestied illegals
That's who is doing it now genius.
Don Joe

Saint Paul, MN

#253 Aug 2, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>
No that is why I got an education. Why don't you. Let the excuses loose.
??? You paid for an education??? You should get your money back.90
devildog

Chicago, IL

#254 Aug 2, 2013
The Real Jimmy Crack Corn wrote:
McDonald's is one of the largest international corporations in the world. They've innovated their way there, coming up with unique ways of dealing with supply chain issues, franchising issues, etc. I've slipped on my boots and walked down to a McDonald's in Istanbul and gotten the same food I've enjoyed on the side of the Jersey Turnpike.

I'm sure robotics companies have approached Mickey Dee's with proposals that, so far, haven't been enticing enough for McD's to make the switch. But if this unionization (more on that in a second) takes place, those robots will probably be on the way post-haste. It certainly is technically feasible to have robots take over many tasks currently executed by humans. McD's has probably resisted it due to the risk associated with being an early adopter - they would have to trust the robots and so would their customers. What's hilarious about this is, if the wages of the humans are raised to a certain point, the adoption of the robots becomes a no-brainer. This will shift the beneficiaries of the labor costs from unskilled labor to skilled labor. Manufacturers, installers, programmers, basically everyone involved with robotics, will now be receiving the money that previously would have been available the unskilled labor that currently works at McD's. These protestors are putting their currently secure positions at permanent risk by forcing the hands of their employers to innovate.

Also, it should be asked and investigated as to who is behind this sudden push to ask for a 100% raise. Who stands to gain from the unionization of these workers? I bet you'll find some people who make quite a bit more than minimum wage who are looking to further augment their earnings.

Some have brought morality into this. Would it be moral for McD's to put shareholders at significant risk to give in to these workers? Its an arbitrary choice, to screw one group in favor of another. The shareholders did nothing wrong, why should they have their investment ruined? Morality, in its true form, is not arbitrary.

Which brings me to my final point: some have been tossing accusations of being greedy in this thread.

It is the height and definition of greed to demand something that does not belong to you. And that's what these workers (and those puppeteers behind the scenes) are asking. To be paid as if they are skilled when they are not, for no other reason than they "believe" that they are worth it. That's greed. Wanting to pay a market rate for the labor being provided is not greedy, its good business sense. Something these workers clearly lack.
Right on. These Libs hate you right now. Please stop making sense!:)

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