Proposed meat processing plant could bring 65 jobs to Herkimer County

Aug 8, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WKTV

Two local men have put together a business plan to form a meat processing company called Full Circle Packing, and some Herkimer County legislators are hoping that company will be the first to break ground at the shovel ready 5S Business Park in Frankfort One of those two men is John Zielinski of Marcy who says the vision is to build a large meat ... (more)

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“Getting To The Meat Of It”

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#23
Aug 29, 2013
 
Might you have any idea where the nearest Slaughter House is and who their neighbors are ?

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No Punchline wrote:
Is this a joke without a punch line? One commenter got it right. It is a slaughterhouse. That's what it should be called. And they want to put this in the Pumpkin Patch??? How many millions has the area spent on this business park? They want to put a slaughterhouse in a business park? Local political leaders are in favor of this??? What about our local economic development office?
Are they nuts or completely incompetent or both? Any legislator or government official on any level advocating for this should be voted out of office in the next election.
A slaughterhouse with abut 65 jobs paying $10 to $15 per hour. That's just great. Never mind the smell, the noise, the acres of cattle corrals, the vermin, the unsanitary conditions. Our local politicians must think that Frankfort residents must be a bunch of saps and that Frankfort will take what others do not want.
Did Moracco actually support this deal in a newspaper article? If he did it just shows, again, how stupid he is. What other politicians are supporting this? Vote the idiots out. We can only hope that they can't raise the needed financing.
This is so stupid I actually laughed when I read about it. Not only will other companies not come to the park we might lose some of the business that are already nearby. And activities at the fairgrounds. There is a local expression: forgetaboudit.
So please tell how any of your allegations could even happen. Contact the U.S.D.A. who are present anytime this place would be operating. Animals are not allowed to be kept outdoors, any odors need to be controlled, you would hear no sounds greater than those produced by Fiberdyne (sp.). The vermin you speak of already exist in the Pumpkin Patch, and all nearby farms and vacant properties. Again the USDA is very strict on this. The fact that this facility could very well bring associated business to the park also seems to have passed you by.(BTW animals being brought to this facility are slaughtered almost immediately, how long do animals stay on a farm ?)
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So please tell how any of your allegations could even happen. Contact the U.S.D.A. who are present anytime this place would be operating. Animals are not allowed to be kept outdoors, any odors need to be controlled, you would hear no sounds greater than those produced by Fiberdyne (sp.). The vermin you speak of already exist in the Pumpkin Patch, and all nearby farms and vacant properties. Again the USDA is very strict on this. The fact that this facility could very well bring associated business to the park also seems to have passed you by.(BTW animals being brought to this facility are slaughtered almost immediately, how long do animals stay on a farm ?)
Did you bother to read subsequent posts Mr. Meat Head? When the proposal for a new business is put forward, regardless of the business, there should be a great dal of information that goes along with it. Now it could be that the Herkimer Co, legislature had to rush through this grant application because of a deadline and that's fine. It does not necessarily mean the project will go forward. But for the legislature to say what a great thing this will be is just stupid. Are we supposed to take their work for it? Do they think that people will not care what moves into their back yards?

My point is the need for information. Perhaps the plant will be cleaner than my first impressions but, again, how clean will it be? Will other businesses consider moving there next to a meat processing plant? I don't know. You say that "associated business" will move in. What associated businesses? Will there be as much concern with these businesses as there are with a slaughterhouse? I don't know. You tell me. But you have not convinced me that a slaughter house bringing in 1,000 live cows (plus other animals) a day on cattle trucks will be such a clean, odor-free environment.

Hell, we had businesses in West Frankfort threaten to move out if they put the jail there.

There needs to be a lot more information about this type of business before anyone should support it. That includes our county representatives also. But it's good to see who the legislators are who jumped on this bandwagon with so little information. And if they have the information they should have supported their decision by offering it to their constituents. Either way, whether it's their arrogance or their stupidity, maybe they should not be voted back into office. They are doing such a good job with the jail issue.

We'll see how this pays out. But without a lot of questions being answered the Pumpkin Patch probably is not the best place for it. If the county wants a slaughter house then find a place where it will be a better fit. I don't think this will happen anyway. I don't think this guy will find the private financing. How was his record at EDGE? I don't see it happening but if they manage to pull it off, find a better place for it.
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Aug 29, 2013
 
I meant "plays out."
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Aug 30, 2013
 
Sorry for the miss quote. It is not 1,000 cows a day. It is 1,000 cows a week plus other animals it intends to slaughter. I don't recall what they were; maybe sheep. In any case they intend to slaughter over 1,000 animals a week.

But it may be a moot point with the Town Board voting it down. The issue....information, or the lack of it. And it seems that the board or at least the Town Supervisor took exception to the proposed owners statement that they tried to reach out to them but did not get return calls.

That's almost funny. With Zalienski involved I don't think it's all that surprising.

Where does Mark Feane get off calling the location "perfect". This was in the Telegram on Thursday the same day the OD reported on the no vote by the Frankfort Town Board.(Good job Telegram). I'll grant that the economy has not really recovered from the Great Recession and many businesses are not investing or expanding, and this is at a time of historically low interest rates. So finding companies to move into a business park in this area will not be easy, especially when the area has to compete with Albany and the greater NY City area. Still, maybe Herkimer County needs to replace him.
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Aug 30, 2013
 
Thank GOD for Joseph Kinney and the Board for looking out for the future of this community. Where do you think our community will be in 3/5/7/10 years? Take a good look around-we are now left with the mess of poor planning/lack of funds to enforce codes and safety policies and each year fewer tax payers: Stick to your guns, Joe and Board members. Someone has to take care of our future. The days of the "free money" and spot planning have cost us and we can no longer afford to not pay attention. What is the IDA thinking? Where is the common sense even?
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Aug 30, 2013
 
Managing Risk wrote:
Thank GOD for Joseph Kinney and the Board for looking out for the future of this community. Where do you think our community will be in 3/5/7/10 years? Take a good look around-we are now left with the mess of poor planning/lack of funds to enforce codes and safety policies and each year fewer tax payers: Stick to your guns, Joe and Board members. Someone has to take care of our future. The days of the "free money" and spot planning have cost us and we can no longer afford to not pay attention. What is the IDA thinking? Where is the common sense even?
How much has the town of Frankfort invested in the PP? Let me think......oh yes, a big fat zero! Jobs that are desperately needed are being shunned by a board that didn't even hear the developers out. Nazi's! It's idiot boards like Frankfort's that don't have a pot to piss in between all of them and don't understand economics that have ruined our valley. Nothing ventured NOTHING GAINED! Remember the jobs and livelihoods lost next time you eat a steak board members
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#30
Aug 30, 2013
 
I was thinking of opening a potato chip plant next door to the meat processing plant BUT, I'm sure the wise leaders in Frankfort don't want all those trucks coming in carrying those dirty, unwashed potatos only to be cruelly BOILED ALIVE then dismembered.

The horror.

Maybe I'll open up a refinery at the PP?

Nah, never mind...the wise leaders in Frankfort wouldn't want to be associated with something as evil as beer...tsk, tsk, tsk.

No wonder Frankfort is a ghost town...it will soon go bankrupt and dissolve its charter.
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Aug 30, 2013
 
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And one of the county dipsh*ts said it was gonna be HUGE - I think his words at the committee meeting were "Not to steal from the commercial but this is going to be HUGE!" You know what would make it huge? You know what would REALLY make it huge? A marijuana dispensary... A place where potheads could go to take massive bong hits until their thinking improves. Ha! Then, and only then would it be HUGE! No coke, no meth, no alcohol, no pills, just weed...
your thinking up at the top if the hill.now there was a true entrepreneur who gave alot of people real decent jobs yet we threw him in prison for 20 yrs..go figure
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#32
Aug 30, 2013
 
Why are you two so anxious to jump on this bandwagon? Do you have information about this type of business that makes you believe that the Town Board's (and others)concerns are unfounded?
Please fill us in. Or are you as uninformed as the rest of us and want to jump at anything like Mr. Feane and some County Legislators?

I get very concerned when people think they know better than everyone else just because they are in positions of some authority and want to push through something without providing the necessary information to make a sound decision. You need good information to make good decisions. That's good economics.

Maybe the Board members have looked into this type of operation and have valid concerns. I still contend that this is not the right place for it. If either of you guys have a few extra acres where you live, put it there. Your neighbors will love you for it. Maybe they will jump on those $12 jobs. Maybe you will to.

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#33
Aug 31, 2013
 
So how many businesses have been interested in the park since it was created?
What is the 1 year, 5 year, 10 year plan for Frankfort? Do any plans even exist?
What are the town leaders doing to bring business into the area or the park?
Name all the positive things that have benefited the Frankfort community in the past 10 years...
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#34
Aug 31, 2013
 
HOLY POOP Lets keep 70 more frankfort residents on welefare. we need the jobs . In a worst case situation it will never smell as bad as half of the current population in frankfort or Big Joes rotten teeth.
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#35
Aug 31, 2013
 
OH maybe fat Testaicle and the others on the council will stop blowing Joe and get a backbone
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#36
Sep 1, 2013
 
Nope the deal was pushed through because the IDA is embarrassed that they have had no success in bringing anything new to the valley parks. Who hold these clowns accountable for their failure to deliver? The get fat checks, insurance and pensions, and the taxpayers get screwed. Where will these workers come from? foreign workers? it will be Part-time work and disgusting work to make hamburg. O'yea we should celebrate this great business or wait we are suppose to settle for this business cuz these fat cats can't get anyone to come here. Wake up people. Follow the Money!!
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Sep 4, 2013
 
Marty Broccoli, an agriculture and economic development specialist from Cornell Cooperative Extension of Oneida County, said there are stringent regulations that ensure facilities are run properly.

“Just because it’s meat processing, to think it’s going to be a big stinky operation, it’s absurd,” Broccoli said.“They’re not built like that today. The image is nowhere near what people think it is.”

Read more: http://www.uticaod.com/features/x1367236803/B...
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Sep 4, 2013
 
Eat Meat wrote:
Marty Broccoli, an agriculture and economic development specialist from Cornell Cooperative Extension of Oneida County, said there are stringent regulations that ensure facilities are run properly.
“Just because it’s meat processing, to think it’s going to be a big stinky operation, it’s absurd,” Broccoli said.“They’re not built like that today. The image is nowhere near what people think it is.”
Read more: http://www.uticaod.com/features/x1367236803/B...
Is this the Broccoli family that were convicted at Utica Veal?
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#40
Sep 5, 2013
 
Seems like others in Bridgewater do not have issues either with a slaughterhouse near their residential area...

Mike Carey can remember as a kid watching animals being processed at a slaughterhouse in the town of Bridgewater.

Now, as a homeowner on state Route 8 in the village, about an eighth of a mile from the current meat processing facility — New York Custom Processing LLC — he has no complaints about the business.

“It doesn’t bother us any; no foul smell,” he said Tuesday morning as he chipped paint from the front door of his home.“I haven’t had any issues with it.”

Many Bridgewater residents and officials have noticed only the benefits of having the facility in the area.

Read more: http://www.uticaod.com/news/x1367236803/Bridg...
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#41
Sep 5, 2013
 
Amazes me how the "High Society" &sses in Frankfort have forgotten that you live in FARM COUNTRY!!! You DID have a slaughter house 30 years ago and NO ONE complained! You idiots have lost sight of what fed your ancestors or that the farms in the towns as well as the dairies are what kept your pretty little village idiots thriving! Get off your high horses and be thankful ANY TYPE of business is interested!
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#42
Sep 5, 2013
 
funny , another bigot. GO EFF yourself you coward. Its a multimillion dollar piece of property and you want a slaughter house in there . you are a moron
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#43
Sep 5, 2013
 
wow wrote:
funny , another bigot. GO EFF yourself you coward. Its a multimillion dollar piece of property and you want a slaughter house in there . you are a moron
A multimillion piece of vacant land which will remain vacant for generations... How many people are in line or have even expressed an interest to develop the property. It is amazing how the people of central NY are against anything and everything which wants to move here. I guess the area just want to remain poor and the people would prefer to live off of welfare...

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