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Will fast-food protests spur higher minimum wage?

There are 711 comments on the Northern Michigan News story from Aug 5, 2013, titled Will fast-food protests spur higher minimum wage?. In it, Northern Michigan News reports that:

Terrance Wise has two jobs in Kansas City - one at a burger joint, a second at a pizza restaurant - but he says his paychecks aren't enough to buy shoes for his three daughters and insure his 15-year-old car.

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Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#112 Aug 7, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't know there was such a thing as a "collage" degree. I thought you just slapped a few pieces of construction paper together and put a frame around it.
Good point Larry. It's getting that way, anybody can get one. Hell, if you pay them Berkeley will give you a degree in 'Green Studies'. You have the fun of being a college student with none of the work and, you get a real diploma for wall. It really gives you an advantage when competing with high school kids for fast food jobs.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#115 Aug 7, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>A little poison won't kill you.
THEIR! I said it!
The poison control center and every ER would disagree.

My real concern is you letting your kids "win" the argument.

Will you buy them a little pot or a little crack if they whine enough?

But Daaaaaaaaad, just this once.......

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#116 Aug 7, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Are you the "Sheeple" I sometimes used to find myself in agreement with?
It likely depends on the issue.

I'm not a standard liberal or conservative by today's political standards.

I'm very "conservative" on some issues, very "liberal" on others, but I usually fall more in the libertarian center.

On this issue, I don't want the govt dictating ANY wages, not minimum nor maximum. Let the free market work.
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Astoria, NY

#117 Aug 7, 2013
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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#118 Aug 7, 2013
Ilkwas wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't know many high school students either. Do you?
Actually she/he is correct.

Minimum wage laws prevent cut high school students out of the job market.

If I have to pay everyone $15/hr, then I'm not hiring someone with no skills or experience.

There are plenty of unemployed skilled & experienced workers who will work for $15/hr.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#119 Aug 7, 2013
The whole game is rigged now. If you are married and have children, you are the fools in modern America. To be specific, one or both parents employed but not in the best paying jobs. Above the poverty level but below the having a real comfortable living level. The old ways promoted the advancement of a middle class that keeps each generation going from one to the next at a rather economical price. People looked out for each other. The price paid was that living in different ways was frowned upon as a common goal was the objective and improving the species through the next generation the goal. Improvements in human history done right are incremental. what we have done is not that. We trans warped equality to the groups we belong in and are rewarded or penalized by the same. Improvements were/are made. But decline has manifested to a once great nation because of rushing anything false. It now costs several times more to raise a child then in the past. And if you don't have a child, well you can live several times better. The result...game over...

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#120 Aug 7, 2013
Ilkwas wrote:
<quoted text>
People with collage degrees won't work for4 $15\hr. They would not be able to pay off their student loans.
They will if those are the only jobs available.

That's the problem with govt mandated minimum wages, it cause employers to either raise prices, cut back on employees, or LOWER the wages of their more skilled workers.

So to keep the same 20 workers you had at $20/hr for 10 skilled/experienced employees and $10/hr for 10 unskilled/unexperienced employees, you end up LOWERING the $20/hr wages DOWN to $15/hr in order to raise the $10/hr people to their mandated $15/hr.

Instead, LET THE FREE MARKET WORK.
Joe

United States

#121 Aug 7, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>They will if those are the only jobs available.

That's the problem with govt mandated minimum wages, it cause employers to either raise prices, cut back on employees, or LOWER the wages of their more skilled workers.

So to keep the same 20 workers you had at $20/hr for 10 skilled/experienced employees and $10/hr for 10 unskilled/unexperienced employees, you end up LOWERING the $20/hr wages DOWN to $15/hr in order to raise the $10/hr people to their mandated $15/hr.

Instead, LET THE FREE MARKET WORK.
The free market only works for the rich. The rest of us are left to fight each over the scrapes of wealth left. Abolishing the minimum wage would allow the 1% to accumulate even more wealth. But establishing a living wage allows wealth to trickle down to middle-income and low-income workers. When their buying power increases the economy becomes stronger. Perhaps a more appropriate argument to have is establishing pay ceiling for corporate executives and a higher capital gains tax for short-term investors.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#123 Aug 7, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
The free market only works for the rich. The rest of us are left to fight each over the scrapes of wealth left. Abolishing the minimum wage would allow the 1% to accumulate even more wealth. But establishing a living wage allows wealth to trickle down to middle-income and low-income workers. When their buying power increases the economy becomes stronger. Perhaps a more appropriate argument to have is establishing pay ceiling for corporate executives and a higher capital gains tax for short-term investors.
You know, IF you could come up with a GREAT IDEA, you too could be rich!!

You could be part of the 1%!!

But instead of having GREAT IDEAS like mass producing burgers and selling franchises OR ANY OTHER successful business today, you just COMPLAIN that the successful people aren't trickling down enough of their wealth to you.

Truly sad to be in your shoes ....
Joe

United States

#124 Aug 7, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>You know, IF you could come up with a GREAT IDEA, you too could be rich!!

You could be part of the 1%!!

But instead of having GREAT IDEAS like mass producing burgers and selling franchises OR ANY OTHER successful business today, you just COMPLAIN that the successful people aren't trickling down enough of their wealth to you.

Truly sad to be in your shoes ....
I have no desire to be part of the soulless 1%. The vast majority of them (there are exceptions, like Buffett and Gates) have lost their humanity.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#125 Aug 7, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
The free market only works for the rich. The rest of us are left to fight each over the scrapes of wealth left. Abolishing the minimum wage would allow the 1% to accumulate even more wealth. But establishing a living wage allows wealth to trickle down to middle-income and low-income workers. When their buying power increases the economy becomes stronger. Perhaps a more appropriate argument to have is establishing pay ceiling for corporate executives and a higher capital gains tax for short-term investors.
Aaaah, I knew it was only a matter of time before someone supporting a govt mandated minimum wage would also suggest a govt mandated MAXIMUM wage.

Why stop at just corporate executives? Why not have the govt establish wages for EVERYONE?

If it's good for the low end & high end wage earners, then it MUST be good for everyone in between.

Why not just make the "living wage" $1 million per year for everyone? That way we're ALL millionaires! Think of our buying power!!

Yes, that is a ridiculous example; just as ridiculous as a govt mandated minimum wage or maximum wage.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#126 Aug 7, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no desire to be part of the soulless 1%. The vast majority of them (there are exceptions, like Buffett and Gates) have lost their humanity.
Then you certainly wouldn't want to be contaminated by any of their inhumane wealth trickling down to you.

You better stick with your $7.25/hr job so you're safe from all the soulless inhumane 1%ers.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#127 Aug 7, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no desire to be part of the soulless 1%. The vast majority of them (there are exceptions, like Buffett and Gates) have lost their humanity.
Lost their humanity?

The 1% GIVE AWAY more wealth to charity than you will ever earn in your lifetime!!

But you, on the other hand, waiting for THEIR WEALTH to flow TO YOU, now THAT best describes what is wrong with humanity today.
Joe

United States

#128 Aug 7, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Aaaah, I knew it was only a matter of time before someone supporting a govt mandated minimum wage would also suggest a govt mandated MAXIMUM wage.

Why stop at just corporate executives? Why not have the govt establish wages for EVERYONE?

If it's good for the low end & high end wage earners, then it MUST be good for everyone in between.

Why not just make the "living wage" $1 million per year for everyone? That way we're ALL millionaires! Think of our buying power!!

Yes, that is a ridiculous example; just as ridiculous as a govt mandated minimum wage or maximum wage.
The federal government has every right to manage corporate revenue, and that includes capping executive pay to help improve worker wages and enhance social stability.
Joe

United States

#129 Aug 7, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>Lost their humanity?

The 1% GIVE AWAY more wealth to charity than you will ever earn in your lifetime!!

But you, on the other hand, waiting for THEIR WEALTH to flow TO YOU, now THAT best describes what is wrong with humanity today.
But it isn't "their wealth." The wealth has been accumulated thanks government loans, government-built infrastructure, low-tax rates, tax loopholes and in some cases inheritance. The nation's wealth has been stolen by the 1%.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#130 Aug 7, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
The federal government has every right to manage corporate revenue, and that includes capping executive pay to help improve worker wages and enhance social stability.
You are totally, completely and seriously LOONEY-TOONS !!
Justin

United States

#131 Aug 7, 2013
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Joe

United States

#132 Aug 7, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>You are totally, completely and seriously LOONEY-TOONS !!
All revolutions are ridiculed in the beginning.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

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#133 Aug 7, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
The poison control center and every ER would disagree.
My real concern is you letting your kids "win" the argument.
Will you buy them a little pot or a little crack if they whine enough?
But Daaaaaaaaad, just this once.......
I don't have to buy pot for my kids. I give them some of my own. Crack is only for special occasions.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

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#134 Aug 7, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
It likely depends on the issue.
I'm not a standard liberal or conservative by today's political standards.
I'm very "conservative" on some issues, very "liberal" on others, but I usually fall more in the libertarian center.
On this issue, I don't want the govt dictating ANY wages, not minimum nor maximum. Let the free market work.
Many years ago we let the free market "work". That gave birth to the slogan, "If you don't come in Sunday, don't come in Monday".

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