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Will fast-food protests spur higher minimum wage?

There are 711 comments on the Northern Michigan News story from Aug 5, 2013, titled Will fast-food protests spur higher minimum wage?. In it, Northern Michigan News reports that:

Terrance Wise has two jobs in Kansas City - one at a burger joint, a second at a pizza restaurant - but he says his paychecks aren't enough to buy shoes for his three daughters and insure his 15-year-old car.

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“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

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#91 Aug 6, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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So you can't really define "living wage"; don't feel bad, no one else can either, which is why everyone is in disagreement. Adding in a few of "life's pleasures" makes it even more ambiguous. The poverty level is an arbitrary number the govt comes up with. To be meaningful it would have to be different for every state/city/locality because the cost of living varies so much from place to place.
Though I agree fast-food is horrible for you, if fewer people are consuming their product, that means fewer workers will be needed, which means someone is getting fired, which is NOT exactly a better deal for employees.
Let the free market work it out.
The govt shouldn't be dictating a minimum wage any more than they should be dictating a maximum wage.
Then I guess we have to continue tobacco farming.

My problem with your analysis is that it makes a case for slave wages. We have had raises in minimum wage in the past, and despite all the fear mongering, the sky didn't fall. I think somewhat higher prices for these dungburgers would result in very little loss in the marketplace.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#92 Aug 6, 2013
inbred Genius wrote:
Mcdonalds, Burger King, Wendy's all have surly employees that hate being there, and are rude and never smile. chick Fila has happy people, they smile, take your order,look you in the eye, smile some more, and cheerfully deal with you. My guess is, they pay a little more than the others, plus they don't seem to recruit at the same slums as the others.
How about tip jars? That way all those who think burger flippers should get paid more can do so... out of their own pockets.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#93 Aug 6, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Then I guess we have to continue tobacco farming.
My problem with your analysis is that it makes a case for slave wages. We have had raises in minimum wage in the past, and despite all the fear mongering, the sky didn't fall. I think somewhat higher prices for these dungburgers would result in very little loss in the marketplace.
Not sure what tobacco farming has to do with it.

I never said the sky would fall, just that any mandatory increase in wages will be passed along to consumers or result in less jobs, or less wages for those with more skills to give a "living wage" to those with essentially no skills.

No one is forced to take any job; if the wages are too low for you, then take a different job or make yourself more valuable to your current employer. If wages are too low, the business won't get any applicants and have to raise their wages if they want employees.

I just don't believe the govt should be dictating wages out of basic philosophy. If they can dictate a minimum wage, then what's to stop them from dictating a maximum wage? And don't think that hasn't been floated already by people claiming CEOs & sports figures & others shouldn't be making what they consider "outrageous" salaries.

Let the free market work it out.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#94 Aug 6, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Mine sell for less.
Because you screw your employees.
neutral observer

West Palm Beach, FL

#95 Aug 6, 2013
A higher minimum wage means fewer jobs, higher unemployment and fewer hours worked for those still employed. Everyone loses. Except of course for the left who prefer that everyone to be on public assistance anyway.
sinic

United States

#96 Aug 6, 2013
"People crushed by laws, have no hope but to evade power. If the laws are their enemies, they will be enemies to the law; and those who have most to hope and nothing to lose will always be dangerous." (Edmund Burke)

remember 1789
Jaimie

Madison, WI

#97 Aug 6, 2013
RustyS wrote:
So, if we made the minimum wage $30/hour could we eliminate all welfare programs?
Why is it, WELFARE< FOOD STAMPS AND HOUSING is the only thing people bring up in the fiscal budget dispute?

The Budget is trucked in and it takes several trucks for one aspect of the budget, armed securtiy to each truck and usually traveled thru state at 3 am in the morning MAdison Wisc gets ours almost 3:30am big military guards with guns facing out of truck.

Housing welfare and Medical and food is less then 1% of the fiscal annual budget. Ajnd for the total of the above it is less then a portion of a penny 1 cent to yoru family household to sponser that aspect of the budget, IDIOT

Each US Born civilan of founding families rule aka Native Americans = 4 fathers were birthed of USA; really gets $2100 a month from the day of their birth Interest accounts are on that money but Civilians barred access to accoutns for them to free reign, so now we have to set appointment for accountability and livlihood suits with Secertary of USA and all footprints and DNA checks prior to yoru couple court sessions are odne on Pennsylvania avenue, you over a millionare if you fit the creditials. FOOT PRINT MATCHING BLOOD TEST OF BIRTH and of your BIRTH PARENTS

It used to come to your local town banks and zipcode ordience members. Now we have to go to Washington DC to get our funds, and we have to stay out the local facinity for 2 years so they can arrest all oppositions and malpraictce of billing, judical, and medical in file they have waiting for you and yoru REAL idientity is in there as well so they FINE a STATE on yoru behalf and they go back to waht appears back woods pioneering days.

THERE IS NO Evolution as long as unlawful ignorent twits go without arrest on negligence or conspiracy to hide negligence it is a crime. And all those people owe you money not vice versa.

Then you sign a gag restraint of information and amount given to you and a piece of land to carry out your life and places of land that is yours prior, and a list a real list of people that are legally able to affilated with or matrimony not have sex matrimony with sex or just affilaite period. The rest was really illegal for contact party and affilations.

Wlfare BIG DAMN DEAL less then 1800 then what we are to really be delivered in our mailbox, YOUR A FELON on the run arent you? or just not to bright after all.
Jaimie

Madison, WI

#98 Aug 6, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Then I guess we have to continue tobacco farming.
My problem with your analysis is that it makes a case for slave wages. We have had raises in minimum wage in the past, and despite all the fear mongering, the sky didn't fall. I think somewhat higher prices for these dungburgers would result in very little loss in the marketplace.
Tobacco farming hahaha whats the concern?

They are trying to make you prgressive, a slave means a person that labors under another man because they have a inability to produce a product to their own business.

So nobody can get a tax id number form a bank, or H & R block and mow laws and claim it as legal small busienss and apply for a small business grant for equiptment at a local bank, WHy is yoru wages you agreed to labor under a complexity to my own life. Your cheap and dirt poor and I would say not groudns for matrimony or fatherhood if you have a inabilty to employ and live the means your comprehensive system permits, MOst mental retards live independently and with children and still make a living and budget and keep legal status and their appointments, all purchases are layaway policies, or local good will or other thrift stores because they can nto afford new and they get on 30% of income allowence housign which gives more money to play with and pruducts then a working mans pay check needing gas and bus expenses.

I enver saw the problem. You lived above your means thats all.

And for those thefts and other memberships BIG DAMN DEAL so someone stole a military or geneolgoy store house, tomorrow someone will steal it form them too.. You make money as a civilian by videoing the events and selling it to DA Give it to them they will do philanthropy funds to yoru life and home.

A small busines sis the only way to be noted as man, they have membership on business ownership and validity of statments in public or court. Get a lawn mowing business and when you cant shovel snow and when that is down your are legal for unemployemnt and fiancing grants of livlihood by bank offer free money to keep you afloat........

No sense being jealous

Business owners have a contract to service they swore a oath they can provide4, it does not matter STAFFING OR NOT THey alone are accoutbale for their product and inventory not you SO they took off more then they can chew NOT MY PROBLEM I will clean a old ladies toilet before being abused by these business men again. And threatened to tbe killed becasue I did not do my job to YOUR CONTRACT and your promisary note, Big damn deal go be dead in another mans jail then not my problems either.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#99 Aug 6, 2013
Jaimie - good for you, let it all out. Keep in mind this is Topix, much like Congress, we never really accomplish anything. The great thing, much like Congress, is you can post when your drunk or high, or like MC Patty, when your obsessed. Just be careful you don't blow a gasket.
Jaimie

Madison, WI

#100 Aug 6, 2013
RustyS wrote:
Jaimie - good for you, let it all out. Keep in mind this is Topix, much like Congress, we never really accomplish anything. The great thing, much like Congress, is you can post when your drunk or high, or like MC Patty, when your obsessed. Just be careful you don't blow a gasket.
Giving advice or direction never harmed me much. I am not under contract like a musician or celebrity caluse to Attorney or banking referal sources, their contract, the attorney and bank has legal grounds to terminate their assistence on personal accounting matters if they refer another source in.

I had a couple search me out here: Marilyn Manson, Johnny Depp, and the man that plays the cute lt. on Deep Space Nine.

Mr. Manson had bad vibes on a Ozzy Osborne encoutner, something bad happened on stage he traded places with me for a secod, dont ask I cant figure out how I was him and he was me, he said he was sorry but wanted to see what a pregnant women felt like.

Johnny Depp was doing things with the Sleepy Hollow movie and backgroudn to Maidosn Sleepy Hollow legends and myth; since it is Internationally leglaly my proerty he was trying to get my personal permission to film on family lands and since I am the only legal DA records in family My signature was sought out. I delcined the offer as his male representative abused me and piched my arm and demanded and pulled me to go with him, I shouted I wasnt a hooker and walked the other way, His male rep also wanted me in a film as the women with the out of control baby stroller, he was going to save my baby and pick it up hug and kiss her and give me a scornful look and slander me in the movie for $500 was the offer and stale sweaty crousants. The male rep also inquired if he can trasnport his daughter to Wisconsin under my authority and house her here on witness protection, and me and my children would be in her house and upon her 18th birthday I would be released with $25,000 anmd no longer needed, but free room and board while I am under his employ. I said no FOTRA had to many babyswapping and kidnapping in my family I cant babysit and body guard anyone eleses, they (FOTRA) fly high here, and people laundering happens with old owner of park st St Vincent De paul and the people are housed in the metal junkyard up behind. The Sleepy Hollow they inquired about is a old road behind a morg by LAfollette Highschool, I wotn go there, but it is the States Top Philanthropist tat are housed their with Senate.

Deep Space Nine actor wanted me as a contracted 2 year relationship and sex would play a factor, I would be released after 2 years with the trailor home on set and some financing for me and my daughters, in exchange all portal informaiton and all my fathers Military disclosures to him so he can market the information so he can go up in the field of acting with the most legal source to fund. US TICONDEROGA Bomb and missle loaders daughter and mechanics technicians.

I declined that too.

Im really full of it though, I have only disclosed less then 25% of life witness want more??????????

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#101 Aug 6, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Really?
You call them "poison palaces" and yet let your kids talk you into taking them their?
A little poison won't kill you.
THEIR! I said it!

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#102 Aug 6, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Not sure what tobacco farming has to do with it.
I never said the sky would fall, just that any mandatory increase in wages will be passed along to consumers or result in less jobs, or less wages for those with more skills to give a "living wage" to those with essentially no skills.
No one is forced to take any job; if the wages are too low for you, then take a different job or make yourself more valuable to your current employer. If wages are too low, the business won't get any applicants and have to raise their wages if they want employees.
I just don't believe the govt should be dictating wages out of basic philosophy. If they can dictate a minimum wage, then what's to stop them from dictating a maximum wage? And don't think that hasn't been floated already by people claiming CEOs & sports figures & others shouldn't be making what they consider "outrageous" salaries.
Let the free market work it out.
Are you the "Sheeple" I sometimes used to find myself in agreement with?

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#103 Aug 6, 2013
RustyS wrote:
<quoted text>
Because you screw your employees.
Naw, I just call them "associates" and they're happy.
McDouble

Minneapolis, MN

#105 Aug 6, 2013
Soon, we won't be pricing everything by how many McDoubles that would be. (Three and half McDoubles for a gallon of gas) How will I compare prices if the McDouble is no longer a dollar.

Since: Aug 13

Overland Park, KS

#106 Aug 6, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
If I am going to pay these people $15. an hour I want them to have a college degree. The joker who cannot afford shoes for h is children? Get another job. Flipping burgers is for entry level Job training.
People with collage degrees won't work for4 $15\hr. They would not be able to pay off their student loans.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

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#107 Aug 6, 2013
Ilkwas wrote:
<quoted text>
People with collage degrees won't work for4 $15\hr. They would not be able to pay off their student loans.
I didn't know there was such a thing as a "collage" degree. I thought you just slapped a few pieces of construction paper together and put a frame around it.
Cat74

United States

#108 Aug 6, 2013
It would be nuts for me to hire an unskilled person for $15. an hour when there are High School students standing right outside the door that will work for $7.50. This protest will go nowhere because the business owners will just fire the protesters, and hire High School students.

Since: Aug 13

Overland Park, KS

#109 Aug 6, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
It would be nuts for me to hire an unskilled person for $15. an hour when there are High School students standing right outside the door that will work for $7.50. This protest will go nowhere because the business owners will just fire the protesters, and hire High School students.
You don't know many high school students either. Do you?

“Life is Possible”

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#110 Aug 7, 2013
That's not fair. That's not life. If we want to change this world we have to live the way we want. There are always alternatives, although they do not want we believe that.
McDoogles

Newport News, VA

#111 Aug 7, 2013
Ilkwas wrote:
<quoted text>
"The vast majority of fast food employees are rude idiots...They can't even count change... I worked there as a teenager." Explains a lot, thanks.
You must be a democrat.....like to try and spin twist and take things out of context. Sad...but that explains even more about you. ;o) You still work there doncha?

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