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Will fast-food protests spur higher minimum wage?

There are 711 comments on the Northern Michigan News story from Aug 5, 2013, titled Will fast-food protests spur higher minimum wage?. In it, Northern Michigan News reports that:

Terrance Wise has two jobs in Kansas City - one at a burger joint, a second at a pizza restaurant - but he says his paychecks aren't enough to buy shoes for his three daughters and insure his 15-year-old car.

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Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#741 Oct 9, 2013
INFIDEL wrote:
When dealing with conservatives I never ask if they support raising the minimum wage because they never do. Instead I ask, "should anyone who works a full job time earn so little that they are beneath the poverty level". They always answer no.
Not all jobs are worth minimum wage
Not all individuals are worth minimum wage
Joe

Allentown, PA

#742 Oct 9, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>Dimwit! What makes you believe that you would be any better at being and executive, than you as a teacher, fast food worker or any of the other positions that you have failed at. Your claim rings hollow in light of your many failures.
This thread isn't about me. It's about justice for workers. The fact that I understand that coupled with my kindness and political knowledge would make me successful. However, because I'm not a member of the 1%, routes to success and helping change the corporate culture are closed to me. So I must seek political office to help bring about change.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#743 Oct 9, 2013
Joe wrote:
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This thread isn't about me. It's about justice for workers. The fact that I understand that coupled with my kindness and political knowledge would make me successful. However, because I'm not a member of the 1%, routes to success and helping change the corporate culture are closed to me. So I must seek political office to help bring about change.
LOL
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#744 Oct 9, 2013
Joe wrote:
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This thread isn't about me. It's about justice for workers. The fact that I understand that coupled with my kindness and political knowledge would make me successful. However, because I'm not a member of the 1%, routes to success and helping change the corporate culture are closed to me. So I must seek political office to help bring about change.
Good luck with gathering together PLENTY of cash.

It costs a LOT of money to run for political office.

Maybe while you are talking to people who are able to donate to your campaign, you might want to ask them how they became successful enough to be able to DONATE MONEY (rather than just living hand-to-mouth).

Find out HOW they were ABLE to RISE ABOVE the minimum wage job.

That information is FAR MORE USEFUL to anyone interested in earning a living wage.
Joe

Allentown, PA

#745 Oct 9, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>Good luck with gathering together PLENTY of cash.

It costs a LOT of money to run for political office.

Maybe while you are talking to people who are able to donate to your campaign, you might want to ask them how they became successful enough to be able to DONATE MONEY (rather than just living hand-to-mouth).

Find out HOW they were ABLE to RISE ABOVE the minimum wage job.

That information is FAR MORE USEFUL to anyone interested in earning a living wage.
Nah... I just go talk to the Ward Leader.
INFIDEL

Socorro, NM

#746 Oct 9, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
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Not all jobs are worth minimum wage
Not all individuals are worth minimum wage
Point well taken. There is a reason we encourge kids to not end up as burger flippers.

Unfortunately many "jobs" that pay millions are among those that are not worth minimum wage.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#747 Oct 9, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
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Good luck with gathering together PLENTY of cash.
It costs a LOT of money to run for political office.
Maybe while you are talking to people who are able to donate to your campaign, you might want to ask them how they became successful enough to be able to DONATE MONEY (rather than just living hand-to-mouth).
Find out HOW they were ABLE to RISE ABOVE the minimum wage job.
That information is FAR MORE USEFUL to anyone interested in earning a living wage.
Joe is a consummate beggar, it's what he is best at. Attempting to improve his situation himself is beyond comprehension for him as he believes that his failures are not his fault. No personal responsibility, no motivation, no future ... That's Joe
dem

Columbus, OH

#748 Oct 9, 2013
only fcktards talk about fast food.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#749 Oct 9, 2013
The argument had been made before and was aptly reinforced by an LA striker who said “People can’t survive on minimum wage.”

There is no denying that.

But that does not mean that we, as a nation, should cater to that.

These jobs are not designed to support families.

It’s that simple.

The minimum wage could be raised, and it is easily argued that these workers are underpaid.

But $15 an hour is simply excessive for that kind of work.

Teacher’s aides, dental assistants and skilled construction workers earn comparable wages to those being demanded by fast food workers.

Should companies really have to pay fast food employees the same?

I think not. According to the organization Raise the Minimum Wage, if the federal minimum wage had kept up with the rate of inflation, it would be $10.74 an hour.

This is perhaps a much more reasonable figure.

“The principal sources of an individual’s higher earnings are more schooling and the accumulation of experience and skills in the labor market,” said David Neumark, an economist at the University of California.

Raising the minimum wage and demanding employers to pay much higher wages don’t encourage this.

Focus on increasing the individuals skill set and education, not demanding more money.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#750 Oct 9, 2013
INFIDEL wrote:
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Point well taken. There is a reason we encourge kids to not end up as burger flippers.
Unfortunately many "jobs" that pay millions are among those that are not worth minimum wage.
Since it is safe to assume that you have never held one of those million dollar positions, it is also safe to assume that you have neither the knowledge or background to judge what those jobs are worth.

Stick to what you know, and judge the minimum wage position. You wont look so foolish.
Storm Warning

De Forest, WI

#751 Oct 11, 2013
some of you ought to see the kind of people waltzing in the door asking for employment, most of them cant be trusted as far as you could throw them, they dont know History, geography, most of them cant read a mike and almost all of dont know what h2o is

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