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Will fast-food protests spur higher minimum wage?

There are 711 comments on the Northern Michigan News story from Aug 5, 2013, titled Will fast-food protests spur higher minimum wage?. In it, Northern Michigan News reports that:

Terrance Wise has two jobs in Kansas City - one at a burger joint, a second at a pizza restaurant - but he says his paychecks aren't enough to buy shoes for his three daughters and insure his 15-year-old car.

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Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#329 Sep 16, 2013
Joe wrote:
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Krugman was right and your living proof. Being a selfish jerk who supports punishing low-income workers is how you and other teabaggers roll. It's sad.
I just don't believe in rewarding the shiftless losers in this country like yourself who do not want to take any responsibility for themselves and their own lives and instead expect the rest of us to help you along.

When you grow up and become a man, maybe you can come back and talk to us, however you are nothing more than a hapless child.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#330 Sep 16, 2013
Joe wrote:
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Nothing wrong or shameful with receiving help. If my employer paid me a living wage than I would not need help. Don't blame me. Save your anger for the low-wage business model used in retail and fast food.
Pssst.

The blame isn't on your employer; the blame is ON YOU for selecting to work for a low wage employer.

IF you are worth more that what you are being paid, it would be in your best interest to actually GET a better paying job.

Short of that, well, it is what it is. Complaining about it or demanding OTHERS make a change to accomodate your needs is chasing after the wind.
Joe

United States

#331 Sep 16, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>I just don't believe in rewarding the shiftless losers in this country like yourself who do not want to take any responsibility for themselves and their own lives and instead expect the rest of us to help you along.

When you grow up and become a man, maybe you can come back and talk to us, however you are nothing more than a hapless child.
"Shiftless loser"? Talk about being judgmental. We're back to labeling people as deserving and undeserving. The sociologist Michael Harrington penned an entire book on that subject.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#332 Sep 17, 2013
Joe wrote:
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"Shiftless loser"? Talk about being judgmental. We're back to labeling people as deserving and undeserving. The sociologist Michael Harrington penned an entire book on that subject.
You are correct. "YOU" are undeserving. Nuff Said.
Joe

United States

#333 Sep 17, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>You are correct. "YOU" are undeserving. Nuff Said.
My point is you don't have the moral authority to make that determination. There is no "deserving" or undeserving." There is poverty and we must end it.
Typical

Newport News, VA

#334 Sep 17, 2013
Joe wrote:
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My point is you don't have the moral authority to make that determination. There is no "deserving" or undeserving." There is poverty and we must end it.
Then get 2 jobs.....I had to. Give up cable....cut coupons.....drive a piece of shit care.....all things my family has had to do in the past and received no assistance. Hey, bet you have a nice obamaphone doncha?
Joe

Park Ridge, NJ

#335 Sep 17, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>Pssst.

The blame isn't on your employer; the blame is ON YOU for selecting to work for a low wage employer.

IF you are worth more that what you are being paid, it would be in your best interest to actually GET a better paying job.

Short of that, well, it is what it is. Complaining about it or demanding OTHERS make a change to accomodate your needs is chasing after the wind.
You fail to see the structural problem. The jobs being created in the economic "recovery" are low-wage, part-time dead end jobs. A person can't have a life with one of these jobs.

We can correct that by making the minimum wage a living wage. At the moment millions of Americans have no buying power because they're broke. Raise their wages and you create instant consumer demand, which would jumpstart a real economic recovery.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#336 Sep 17, 2013
Joe wrote:
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My point is you don't have the moral authority to make that determination. There is no "deserving" or undeserving." There is poverty and we must end it.
Even Jesus said, "the poor will always be with you".

The "War on Poverty" has going on for DECADES, without success.

But YOU, with your low-wage job thinks poverty can be ended?

Good luck with that!!
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#337 Sep 17, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
You fail to see the structural problem. The jobs being created in the economic "recovery" are low-wage, part-time dead end jobs. A person can't have a life with one of these jobs.
We can correct that by making the minimum wage a living wage. At the moment millions of Americans have no buying power because they're broke. Raise their wages and you create instant consumer demand, which would jumpstart a real economic recovery.
Have you seen a chart of the minimum wage?

In 1939, the minimum wage was 30 cents. http://www.thedigeratilife.com/blog/federal-m...

The problem isn't with the minimum wage. The problem is with our money system.

What you should be doing is speaking out against the FEDERAL RESERVE and demand return to the gold standard.

Attack the real problem, otherwise you are fighting against a shadow.
Joe

United States

#338 Sep 17, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>Even Jesus said, "the poor will always be with you".

The "War on Poverty" has going on for DECADES, without success.

But YOU, with your low-wage job thinks poverty can be ended?

Good luck with that!!
We need to get serious about ending poverty. It's take political willpower and spending money. Obamacare will help, but we need more education funding, passing Employee Free Choice Act, a living wage adjusted for inflation, bigger financial activity taxes, more affordable housing and stronger rent-control laws, expand food stamp eligibility and more generous workers unemployment compensation.

We have the wealth. The problem is some people have too much wealth that's being hoarded and not being properly taxed.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#339 Sep 17, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
My point is you don't have the moral authority to make that determination. There is no "deserving" or undeserving." There is poverty and we must end it.
There is when you expect others to pay to support your burden, although you like to think that there is not.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#340 Sep 17, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
We need to get serious about ending poverty. It's take political willpower and spending money. Obamacare will help, but we need more education funding, passing Employee Free Choice Act, a living wage adjusted for inflation, bigger financial activity taxes, more affordable housing and stronger rent-control laws, expand food stamp eligibility and more generous workers unemployment compensation.
We have the wealth. The problem is some people have too much wealth that's being hoarded and not being properly taxed.
Giving that you contribute little if anything, you are in no position to say what others can and cannot give. You quite an arrogant entitled attitude, especially when you are the one with their hand out to others.

We can only hope that our government wises up and realizes that those like you have nothing to contribute to society other than demands for more of what you are too lazy to earn yourself. Then if we (the real taxpayers, not the social parasites)are lucky the government will empty the trough from which the losers in this country feed and let them fend for themselves. Survival of the fittest. Can't feed, cloth and house yourself, then maybe you are not meant to survive, since you bring nothing to the table of life.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#341 Sep 17, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
We need to get serious about ending poverty. It's take political willpower and spending money. Obamacare will help, but we need more education funding, passing Employee Free Choice Act, a living wage adjusted for inflation, bigger financial activity taxes, more affordable housing and stronger rent-control laws, expand food stamp eligibility and more generous workers unemployment compensation.
We have the wealth. The problem is some people have too much wealth that's being hoarded and not being properly taxed.
More freebies for some, more taxes for many, more government control of us all?

Our Founding Fathers would be rolling over in their graves!!!
Joe

United States

#342 Sep 17, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>More freebies for some, more taxes for many, more government control of us all?

Our Founding Fathers would be rolling over in their graves!!!
What type of nation do you want? I support an active government that heavily regulates the economy. I'm just one person living in a complex world. I need government assistance to improve my quality of life. I suspect most Americans -- even if not spoken -- share my sentiments.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#343 Sep 17, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
What type of nation do you want? I support an active government that heavily regulates the economy. I'm just one person living in a complex world. I need government assistance to improve my quality of life. I suspect most Americans -- even if not spoken -- share my sentiments.
What type of nation to I want?

Limited government, limited taxation, limited regulation and limited general assistance (ONLY to disabled persons who are unable to live productive lives).

People who rely on the government are in grave danger of losing their 'life-line'. With $16.5 Trillion in debt, there will be a tipping point where the federal government will NO LONGER be able to provide assistance.

Then what will you and anyone else dependent upon the government do to survive???
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#344 Sep 17, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
What type of nation do you want? I support an active government that heavily regulates the economy. I'm just one person living in a complex world. I need government assistance to improve my quality of life. I suspect most Americans -- even if not spoken -- share my sentiments.
You need the government to assist you because you are incapable of taking care of yourself. The bill should be sent to your failed parents not the taxpayer. Where are they at ... on welfare like you?

The only Americans that share your sentiment are the parasites like yourself sponging off of the tax payers.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#345 Sep 17, 2013
Victim mentality destroying the fabric of America

America has been gripped by a “progressive virus” that is rotting away at our very foundation and will bring about dire social, economic and political consequences if left unchecked.

In an incident that was reported earlier this week, a middle-school in Massachusetts canceled its annual honors assembly because it was too upsetting for some students — a belief that personifies this progressive illness.

The principal, David Fabrizio, stated that such events can be “devastating to a child” who has worked hard but was not able to maintain a high grade point average.

The National Review points out that Fabrizio justified his decision by claiming it was unfair to reward good grades — which can be influenced by the home environment and supportive parents — because not all of students have access to equal amounts of academic and emotional support.

Fabrizio apparently believes competitive environments are healthy and necessary, but thinks everyone should be included – which equates to a “participation” award for showing up.

This thought process is well defined in the book,“The Progressive Virus: Why You Can’t Permit It To Go Forward,” by Dr. Anthony Napoleon.

Napoleon points out that progressives believe the social injustice in one’s environment “creates” the inequality in outcome. Inequality that is derived from the “haves” oppressing the “have-nots” to achieve a better outcome, justifying a greater focus on equal outcome than on equal opportunity.

This idea ignores that “all societies and cultures are heterogeneous mixtures of people with differing levels of talent, skills, industry, motivation and opportunity,” Napoleon writes, and instead implies that we are “made” by our environment.

A process that creates a sense of entitlement among the “have-nots,” and favors the displacement of responsibility to others or the culture at large for ones fate, where the “not so successful” blame their resultant unhappiness on those more successful, Napoleon suggests.

It’s a victims mentality where the “entitled” class is led to believe that they are destined to achieve great things, and when they fail as a result of simply being average, they conclude that they must have been deprived or oppressed.

And this misguided thinking is slowly destroying the fabric of America, resulting in a citizenry devoid of personal responsibility or any sense of self reliance.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/03/23/victim...
Joe

United States

#346 Sep 17, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>What type of nation to I want?

Limited government, limited taxation, limited regulation and limited general assistance (ONLY to disabled persons who are unable to live productive lives).

People who rely on the government are in grave danger of losing their 'life-line'. With $16.5 Trillion in debt, there will be a tipping point where the federal government will NO LONGER be able to provide assistance.

Then what will you and anyone else dependent upon the government do to survive???
We have a fundamental disagreement. That's not the type of nation I want.
Joe

United States

#347 Sep 17, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
Victim mentality destroying the fabric of America

America has been gripped by a “progressive virus” that is rotting away at our very foundation and will bring about dire social, economic and political consequences if left unchecked.

In an incident that was reported earlier this week, a middle-school in Massachusetts canceled its annual honors assembly because it was too upsetting for some students — a belief that personifies this progressive illness.

The principal, David Fabrizio, stated that such events can be “devastating to a child” who has worked hard but was not able to maintain a high grade point average.

The National Review points out that Fabrizio justified his decision by claiming it was unfair to reward good grades — which can be influenced by the home environment and supportive parents — because not all of students have access to equal amounts of academic and emotional support.

Fabrizio apparently believes competitive environments are healthy and necessary, but thinks everyone should be included – which equates to a “participation” award for showing up.

This thought process is well defined in the book,“The Progressive Virus: Why You Can’t Permit It To Go Forward,” by Dr. Anthony Napoleon.

Napoleon points out that progressives believe the social injustice in one’s environment “creates” the inequality in outcome. Inequality that is derived from the “haves” oppressing the “have-nots” to achieve a better outcome, justifying a greater focus on equal outcome than on equal opportunity.

This idea ignores that “all societies and cultures are heterogeneous mixtures of people with differing levels of talent, skills, industry, motivation and opportunity,” Napoleon writes, and instead implies that we are “made” by our environment.

A process that creates a sense of entitlement among the “have-nots,” and favors the displacement of responsibility to others or the culture at large for ones fate, where the “not so successful” blame their resultant unhappiness on those more successful, Napoleon suggests.

It’s a victims mentality where the “entitled” class is led to believe that they are destined to achieve great things, and when they fail as a result of simply being average, they conclude that they must have been deprived or oppressed.

And this misguided thinking is slowly destroying the fabric of America, resulting in a citizenry devoid of personal responsibility or any sense of self reliance.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/03/23/victim...
Living in poverty is like pulling an all-nighter everyday. It's mentally exhausting. Students from rich backgrounds have an unfair advantage over poor students. Their parents have the resources to give them additional tutors, healthy meals, and a quiet place to study. To bestow honors upon them is a slap in the face to poor students.

Joe

United States

#348 Sep 17, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>You need the government to assist you because you are incapable of taking care of yourself. The bill should be sent to your failed parents not the taxpayer. Where are they at ... on welfare like you?

The only Americans that share your sentiment are the parasites like yourself sponging off of the tax payers.
My low-income doesn't provide me the basic things and opportunities that you take for granted. That's an injustice and it must be corrected.

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