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Will fast-food protests spur higher minimum wage?

There are 711 comments on the Northern Michigan News story from Aug 5, 2013, titled Will fast-food protests spur higher minimum wage?. In it, Northern Michigan News reports that:

Terrance Wise has two jobs in Kansas City - one at a burger joint, a second at a pizza restaurant - but he says his paychecks aren't enough to buy shoes for his three daughters and insure his 15-year-old car.

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Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#309 Sep 16, 2013
Joe wrote:
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You have issues with anger. Have you considered counseling?
So you believe that I have issues with anger because I don't want to have to contribute to support lazy trash like yourself? LOL

Have you considered supporting yourself? I thought not!
Joe

United States

#310 Sep 16, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>So you believe that I have issues with anger because I don't want to have to contribute to support lazy trash like yourself? LOL

Have you considered supporting yourself? I thought not!
Lazy??? I have a job, but my wages are so low that I qualify for some public assistance.

A few weeks ago Paul Krugman penned a column lamenting the shifting attitudes about work within the mutated GOP. Perhaps several years back some conservatives would grumble about unemployed workers on public assistance. The grumbling is still there, but now it has expanded to low-wage workers. Their attitude appears to be, "if you're not rich, you're a loser."

I find you afflicted with this condition.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#311 Sep 16, 2013
Joe wrote:
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Lazy??? I have a job, but my wages are so low that I qualify for some public assistance.
A few weeks ago Paul Krugman penned a column lamenting the shifting attitudes about work within the mutated GOP. Perhaps several years back some conservatives would grumble about unemployed workers on public assistance. The grumbling is still there, but now it has expanded to low-wage workers. Their attitude appears to be, "if you're not rich, you're a loser."
I find you afflicted with this condition.
I find you afflicted with the typical victim mentality prevalent among the shiftless in this country. You believe that the failures of your life are not of your doing and instead are due to the evil rich.

Best to abolish all forms of social welfare completely. It would be cheaper and better for the country to sweep the dead bodies off the street than to carry the worthless from cradle to grave.

Keep begging ... it appears the only skill that you have.
Joe

United States

#312 Sep 16, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>I find you afflicted with the typical victim mentality prevalent among the shiftless in this country. You believe that the failures of your life are not of your doing and instead are due to the evil rich.

Best to abolish all forms of social welfare completely. It would be cheaper and better for the country to sweep the dead bodies off the street than to carry the worthless from cradle to grave.

Keep begging ... it appears the only skill that you have.
As I said in an earlier post, raise the minimum wage to a living wage, fully fund public education, create public-private job retraining programs, and you could save tax dollars.

But let's also keep this in perspective. Public assistance funding is a mere fraction of the federal budget. Most tax dollars go toward defense and agricultural. That is where you find waste.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#313 Sep 16, 2013
Joe wrote:
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As I said in an earlier post, raise the minimum wage to a living wage, fully fund public education, create public-private job retraining programs, and you could save tax dollars.
But let's also keep this in perspective. Public assistance funding is a mere fraction of the federal budget. Most tax dollars go toward defense and agricultural. That is where you find waste.
Why don't you obtain marketable skills, instead of expecting others to support you.

Tax dollars are wasted on supporting those who are incapable of supporting themselves. That would be you. It is laughable listening to one who pays "NOTHING" toward the programs that they take advantage of, while you tell us where the wasted tax dollars are.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#314 Sep 16, 2013
Joe wrote:
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Lazy??? I have a job, but my wages are so low that I qualify for some public assistance.
A few weeks ago Paul Krugman penned a column lamenting the shifting attitudes about work within the mutated GOP. Perhaps several years back some conservatives would grumble about unemployed workers on public assistance. The grumbling is still there, but now it has expanded to low-wage workers. Their attitude appears to be, "if you're not rich, you're a loser."
I find you afflicted with this condition.
No, no, no. It is NOT that ('if you're not rich, you're a loser') NO!

You got that all wrong.

The prevalent attitude is that someone is A LOSER if they are unable to take care of themselves and EXPECT others to provide them with that which they are lacking.

Many of the poor in Africa can survive without begging for charity, even if they have to scrape to get by.

Anyone who expects others to provide for them, those are the losers in the world (and are often disappointed when they are unable to GET more).

You unfortunately, have already told the people on this thread that you are indeed, a LOSER, based on your expectation that others should PROVIDE for you.

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#315 Sep 16, 2013
Paul Krugman is rich, maybe he'll help you out?
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#316 Sep 16, 2013
Someday if he is lucky Joe will grow up and become a man and take care of himself. Not likely but anything is possible.
Joe

United States

#317 Sep 16, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>Why don't you obtain marketable skills, instead of expecting others to support you.

Tax dollars are wasted on supporting those who are incapable of supporting themselves. That would be you. It is laughable listening to one who pays "NOTHING" toward the programs that they take advantage of, while you tell us where the wasted tax dollars are.
Myself and other low-wage workers pay taxes.

I have "marketable skills" as demonstrated through my posts and wealth of knowledge about national and global affairs. I'm very well read.
Joe

United States

#318 Sep 16, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>No, no, no. It is NOT that ('if you're not rich, you're a loser') NO!

You got that all wrong.

The prevalent attitude is that someone is A LOSER if they are unable to take care of themselves and EXPECT others to provide them with that which they are lacking.

Many of the poor in Africa can survive without begging for charity, even if they have to scrape to get by.

Anyone who expects others to provide for them, those are the losers in the world (and are often disappointed when they are unable to GET more).

You unfortunately, have already told the people on this thread that you are indeed, a LOSER, based on your expectation that others should PROVIDE for you.
I don't expect anyone to provide for me. I have a job but my wages and hours are so low that I'm unable to afford the basics. So I receive some help. Nothing wrong with that.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#319 Sep 16, 2013
Joe wrote:
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Myself and other low-wage workers pay taxes.
I have "marketable skills" as demonstrated through my posts and wealth of knowledge about national and global affairs. I'm very well read.
If you qualify for food stamps then you do not pay Federal Income taxes, plain and simple. These are the taxes which fund the system that helps you to care for yourself.

Your skills are so marketable that you cannot find a job over minimum wage. Yeah ... sounds like your skills are in high demand.

You are a pathetic loser, with no self respect, other wise you would be finding a way to improve your situation rather than spending your time on the internet begging for that which you did not earn.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#320 Sep 16, 2013
Joe wrote:
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I don't expect anyone to provide for me. I have a job but my wages and hours are so low that I'm unable to afford the basics. So I receive some help. Nothing wrong with that.
You don't expect anyone to provide for you and yet here you are on food stamps (provided for by the taxpayers in this country ... that would not be you) begging for even more that you did not earn.

Yeah, your real self sufficient. I've seen children with greater survival skills and motivation.

You are sad!
Joe

United States

#321 Sep 16, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>If you qualify for food stamps then you do not pay Federal Income taxes, plain and simple. These are the taxes which fund the system that helps you to care for yourself.

Your skills are so marketable that you cannot find a job over minimum wage. Yeah ... sounds like your skills are in high demand.

You are a pathetic loser, with no self respect, other wise you would be finding a way to improve your situation rather than spending your time on the internet begging for that which you did not earn.
And what skills do you have besides being an arrogant cruel jackazz?
Joe

United States

#322 Sep 16, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>You don't expect anyone to provide for you and yet here you are on food stamps (provided for by the taxpayers in this country ... that would not be you) begging for even more that you did not earn.

Yeah, your real self sufficient. I've seen children with greater survival skills and motivation.

You are sad!
Nothing wrong or shameful with receiving help. If my employer paid me a living wage than I would not need help. Don't blame me. Save your anger for the low-wage business model used in retail and fast food.
Joe

United States

#323 Sep 16, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>If you qualify for food stamps then you do not pay Federal Income taxes, plain and simple. These are the taxes which fund the system that helps you to care for yourself.

Your skills are so marketable that you cannot find a job over minimum wage. Yeah ... sounds like your skills are in high demand.

You are a pathetic loser, with no self respect, other wise you would be finding a way to improve your situation rather than spending your time on the internet begging for that which you did not earn.
And once again I pay federal taxes and qualify for an EITC -- a federal program that promotes work and helps alleviate poverty. Who could oppose that?
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#324 Sep 16, 2013
Joe wrote:
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And once again I pay federal taxes and qualify for an EITC -- a federal program that promotes work and helps alleviate poverty. Who could oppose that?
As an individual to qualify for EITC you have to make less than 14,000 a year. If that is the case you receive all you pay in Federal income tax back and then some. So "NO" you do not pay federal income tax.

Again no matter how you attempt to spin it you are a drain on the real tax payers in this country.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#325 Sep 16, 2013
Joe wrote:
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Nothing wrong or shameful with receiving help. If my employer paid me a living wage than I would not need help. Don't blame me. Save your anger for the low-wage business model used in retail and fast food.
Once again loser,... No one owes you anything. You get what you earn and are worth in this world. From your posts you appear to be paid just what you are worth, possibly more than you are worth.

Losers like yourself are not worth anger,... disgust would be a more accurate term for what I feel about you and those like you.

Your parents must be proud ... but most likely they are complete losers like yourself, as the apple does not fall far from the tree.
Joe

United States

#326 Sep 16, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>Once again loser,... No one owes you anything. You get what you earn and are worth in this world. From your posts you appear to be paid just what you are worth, possibly more than you are worth.

Losers like yourself are not worth anger,... disgust would be a more accurate term for what I feel about you and those like you.

Your parents must be proud ... but most likely they are complete losers like yourself, as the apple does not fall far from the tree.
Krugman was right and your living proof. Being a selfish jerk who supports punishing low-income workers is how you and other teabaggers roll. It's sad.
Joe

United States

#327 Sep 16, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>As an individual to qualify for EITC you have to make less than 14,000 a year. If that is the case you receive all you pay in Federal income tax back and then some. So "NO" you do not pay federal income tax.

Again no matter how you attempt to spin it you are a drain on the real tax payers in this country.
How is the EITC a "drain" on taxpayers? I use my EITC to pay bills. The money cycles through the economy and everyone wins.

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#328 Sep 16, 2013
Joe wrote:
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Krugman was right and your living proof. Being a selfish jerk who supports punishing low-income workers is how you and other teabaggers roll. It's sad.
Krugman's rich, see if he will help you.

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