Smokeout urges people to quit for the...

Smokeout urges people to quit for the day

There are 34 comments on the Evening Sun story from Nov 17, 2010, titled Smokeout urges people to quit for the day. In it, Evening Sun reports that:

Sonny Young, bartender at Dawn s Cafe on Baltimore Street, takes a drag Wednesday afternoon while speaking with customers.

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Home in Hanover

Hanover, PA

#1 Nov 18, 2010
It's the ex-girlfriend's fault that this guy started smoking again? Give me a break! She didn't buy him the cigarettes, put one in his hand and light it up for him. She wasn't there when he was 15 and bought his first pack and he clearly states that he enjoys smoking. Seems like he was just looking for an excuse to start up again.

Until people start taking responsibility for their own actions, and stop blaming others, they will never change and have it stick. I hope that he is able to quit this time and make it work -- not only will his wallet benefit but so will his health.
John

Ellicott City, MD

#2 Nov 18, 2010
Home in Hanover wrote:
It's the ex-girlfriend's fault that this guy started smoking again? Give me a break! She didn't buy him the cigarettes, put one in his hand and light it up for him. She wasn't there when he was 15 and bought his first pack and he clearly states that he enjoys smoking. Seems like he was just looking for an excuse to start up again.
Until people start taking responsibility for their own actions, and stop blaming others, they will never change and have it stick. I hope that he is able to quit this time and make it work -- not only will his wallet benefit but so will his health.
Oh my GOD, lighten up!! It's called sarcasm!
Seriously

Hampstead, MD

#3 Nov 18, 2010
Cigarettes should be $20 per pack and the money used to offset the cost burden this habit places on the medicare and medicaid systems. The manufacturers of these destroyers of health take great measures to ensure their product is formulated and marketed to reel in users and hold on to them for life. The users actually argue for their "right to smoke" (remember when the restaurant smoking ban took place), which only validates how completely brainwashed smokers have become that their habit only affects themselves. As if the rest of us want to smell and breathe smoke. As if the rest of us should have to pay for the horrendous health effects that smokers face after years of destroying their bodies one cigarette at a time. Smokers should be disqualified from Medicare and Medicaid, plain and simple.
huh

Hanover, PA

#4 Nov 18, 2010
I smokin a newport yo.
non smoker

Dover, PA

#5 Nov 18, 2010
"...he's tapping into his retirement savings to continue the habit."

Truly pathetic.

All you smokers- how does it feel to have no control over your lives?

Sad, really sad.
Home in Hanover

Hanover, PA

#6 Nov 18, 2010
John, I re-read the article and honestly don't "hear" any sarcasm in what the guy is saying. He is putting the blame on an ex-girlfriend and the fact that he started going back to bars to meet a new woman and needed something to do with his hands to take away his nervousness. How is that sarcasm?

The bottom line is, people are always so quick to point the finger and say "it's so-and-so's fault that I do what I do." No, every person has a choice in what they will do and how they will react to what life hands them. If he chooses to smoke, then that's exactly what it is...HIS choice. But own up to it and stop blaming other people. The article also states that he has had a health scare regarding his lungs and he is dipping into his retirement savings to continue his habit which is sad to read (and I don't mean that in a demeaning way. It truly IS sad).

I have known people that smoked and did it because they enjoyed smoking. Unfortunately they are no longer alive because cancer has taken their lives too soon. Smoking is expensive -- no only monetarily but in what it costs in people's lives.
Home in Hanover

Hanover, PA

#7 Nov 18, 2010
Last line should have read "not only monetarily but in what it costs in people's lives."
Freedom Rider

Baltimore, MD

#8 Nov 18, 2010
How many of you condeming the smokers are fat. I would say by the looks of the people I see around here all of you. We all have vices that includes eating the wrong food, smoking, drinking,gambling ect. So I say if you want to tax vices tax ALL of them that includes twinkies and ice cream.
Malloy

Carlisle, PA

#9 Nov 18, 2010
I'm so sick of all these opinionated do-gooders.
I'm not a smoker but if someone wants to smoke, just let them alone. This is another example of people like Paddock arrogantly attempting to force their views on everyone else.
OMG

Hanover, PA

#10 Nov 18, 2010
I quit smoking over a year ago. It was my choice. There is not special day that will make you quit, unless you truly want to. As far as this man "blaming his ex". Lighten up is right. People who smoke, smoke more during high stress situations. Apparently that was a high stress time for him. It amazes me how people read so much more into an article. It also amazes me how many (as Malloy put it so perfectly) "opinionated do-gooders" there are in this world. Go eat a twinkie lol!
John

Marion Center, PA

#11 Nov 18, 2010
Home in Hanover wrote:
John, I re-read the article and honestly don't "hear" any sarcasm in what the guy is saying. He is putting the blame on an ex-girlfriend and the fact that he started going back to bars to meet a new woman and needed something to do with his hands to take away his nervousness. How is that sarcasm?
The bottom line is, people are always so quick to point the finger and say "it's so-and-so's fault that I do what I do." No, every person has a choice in what they will do and how they will react to what life hands them. If he chooses to smoke, then that's exactly what it is...HIS choice. But own up to it and stop blaming other people. The article also states that he has had a health scare regarding his lungs and he is dipping into his retirement savings to continue his habit which is sad to read (and I don't mean that in a demeaning way. It truly IS sad).
I have known people that smoked and did it because they enjoyed smoking. Unfortunately they are no longer alive because cancer has taken their lives too soon. Smoking is expensive -- no only monetarily but in what it costs in people's lives.
It's sarcastic because he wasn't actually blaming the woman, it was a circumstance of her leaving. He's not actually pointing his finger at her and saying "you forced me to start smoking again". And who cares, it's his life? People who post on here act like they are perfect. Everyone has a vice.
More Seriously

Muncy, PA

#12 Nov 18, 2010
Seriously wrote:
Cigarettes should be $20 per pack and the money used to offset the cost burden this habit places on the medicare and medicaid systems. The manufacturers of these destroyers of health take great measures to ensure their product is formulated and marketed to reel in users and hold on to them for life. The users actually argue for their "right to smoke" (remember when the restaurant smoking ban took place), which only validates how completely brainwashed smokers have become that their habit only affects themselves. As if the rest of us want to smell and breathe smoke. As if the rest of us should have to pay for the horrendous health effects that smokers face after years of destroying their bodies one cigarette at a time. Smokers should be disqualified from Medicare and Medicaid, plain and simple.
Waste of time
I know this is a waste of time, as people that are narrow minded will make excuses for everything I write, but I just need to ventilate. We are living in one of the highest polluted areas in the United States, and the only thing people can focus on is cigarette smoke!!!! I wonder why? Could it be because they don't have the knowledge or time, or could it be they just don't want to deal with something they would have to work for to make better.
Maybe you should be concerned about the quality Medicare is giving it's seniors instead of trying to keep people from using it. Statics (The Times reports this morning on a study finding that one of every seven Medicare beneficiaries who is hospitalized is harmed as a result of problems with the medical care there. These errors affect 180,000 patients annually and cost the government $4.4 billion a year. Why don't you complain about that if you feel the need to run people down?
Why aren't you focusing on the drug problems of our youths? Researchers say that the number of teens abusing ADHD drugs is on the rise. A study of calls to poison control centers has risen 76 percent in eight years, and experts say that number is probably on the low end, since many people don't call a poison control center. Experts say the problem is that kids and teens don't understand why taking a medication prescribed for someone else could be harmful, and they don't understand that the repercussions of their actions could be life threatening. Is this scary for you, or are you more concerned about the smoker, who you can brow beat with your mouth because that's not as hard to control?
Evidently you are not addicted to anything.... alcohol, tobacco, or even food. Because if you were you would be able to understand the word addiction better. When most of the long time smokers started smoking it was a socially acceptable thing to do. Never told how addictive it would be to quit. Now we know and hopefully we can teach our children, and grandchildren not to do it. But I would also be more concerned with not using drugs, as that is the highest danger on the list.
Now go do something besides complain about minor problems that will go away with time and education. Focus on issues that are the real dangers to our society.
And get ride of your tunnel vision!
BRS

Glen Burnie, MD

#13 Nov 18, 2010
Home in Hanover wrote:
John, I re-read the article and honestly don't "hear" any sarcasm in what the guy is saying. He is putting the blame on an ex-girlfriend and the fact that he started going back to bars to meet a new woman and needed something to do with his hands to take away his nervousness. How is that sarcasm?
The bottom line is, people are always so quick to point the finger and say "it's so-and-so's fault that I do what I do." No, every person has a choice in what they will do and how they will react to what life hands them. If he chooses to smoke, then that's exactly what it is...HIS choice. But own up to it and stop blaming other people. The article also states that he has had a health scare regarding his lungs and he is dipping into his retirement savings to continue his habit which is sad to read (and I don't mean that in a demeaning way. It truly IS sad).
I have known people that smoked and did it because they enjoyed smoking. Unfortunately they are no longer alive because cancer has taken their lives too soon. Smoking is expensive -- no only monetarily but in what it costs in people's lives.
It's just a newspaper article. He smokes. You don't. Get over it! You make your choice! He's made his! Leave his life and choices alone, I'm sure he's not bothering you and your life!
BRS

Glen Burnie, MD

#14 Nov 18, 2010
Malloy wrote:
I'm so sick of all these opinionated do-gooders.
I'm not a smoker but if someone wants to smoke, just let them alone. This is another example of people like Paddock arrogantly attempting to force their views on everyone else.
I absolutely agree with you.
resident of west manheim

Pikesville, MD

#15 Nov 18, 2010
It is a stinking, expensive, horrible addiction. I dont smoke, and feel bad for those that do. I am sure it is hard to quit..but the people i know that smoke actually LIKE it..
Home in Hanover

Hanover, PA

#16 Nov 18, 2010
I think some of the posters on here are misinterpreting my point. I never said that he shouldn't smoke -- it's his choice and it's his right. Do I think it would a good idea for smokers to quit? From a health standpoint, absolutely...but that is their decision and I'm not going to tell them they can't/shouldn't smoke.

My beef with the man in the article was with him blaming an ex-girlfriend for his smoking again.(Just going by the line in the article that states "He blames it on a woman." My gripe is that there is no personal accountability for people's actions these days. Everyone wants to blame everyone else and, in so doing, behaviors don't change when you don't think you are the one prompting the behavior. She may have been the catalyst for getting back into it but the fact that he is still smoking 20-30 or more years later cannot be blamed on her. It is solely his choice to continue to smoke. As for the comment that his smoking doesn't bother me or my life -- maybe. However, if I have to be around him and breathe in the second-hand smoke, that bothers my life. If my tax money has to go towards paying medical costs for people who develop smoking-related diseases (not saying that is the case with this man), then that affects my life.

I have not said he is a bad person for smoking. I have not stated on this board that he shouldn't be smoking. My posts are about taking responsibility for one's own choices and actions.
Gettysburg

Mount Holly Springs, PA

#17 Nov 18, 2010
For the record, I am a former smoker---what puzzles me is the fact that our government still allows cigarettes to be sold. Any other product that has been suspected to be as harmful as tobacco is removed from the market, but our politicians love that tobacco lobby money...need I say more.
Seriously

Hampstead, MD

#18 Nov 18, 2010
More Seriously wrote:
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Waste of time
I know this is a waste of time, as people that are narrow minded will make excuses for everything I write, but I just need to ventilate. We are living in one of the highest polluted areas in the United States, and the only thing people can focus on is cigarette smoke!!!! I wonder why? Could it be because they don't have the knowledge or time, or could it be they just don't want to deal with something they would have to work for to make better.
Maybe you should be concerned about the quality Medicare is giving it's seniors instead of trying to keep people from using it. Statics (The Times reports this morning on a study finding that one of every seven Medicare beneficiaries who is hospitalized is harmed as a result of problems with the medical care there. These errors affect 180,000 patients annually and cost the government $4.4 billion a year. Why don't you complain about that if you feel the need to run people down?
Why aren't you focusing on the drug problems of our youths? Researchers say that the number of teens abusing ADHD drugs is on the rise. A study of calls to poison control centers has risen 76 percent in eight years, and experts say that number is probably on the low end, since many people don't call a poison control center. Experts say the problem is that kids and teens don't understand why taking a medication prescribed for someone else could be harmful, and they don't understand that the repercussions of their actions could be life threatening. Is this scary for you, or are you more concerned about the smoker, who you can brow beat with your mouth because that's not as hard to control?
Evidently you are not addicted to anything.... alcohol, tobacco, or even food. Because if you were you would be able to understand the word addiction better. When most of the long time smokers started smoking it was a socially acceptable thing to do. Never told how addictive it would be to quit. Now we know and hopefully we can teach our children, and grandchildren not to do it. But I would also be more concerned with not using drugs, as that is the highest danger on the list.
Now go do something besides complain about minor problems that will go away with time and education. Focus on issues that are the real dangers to our society.
And get ride of your tunnel vision!
Tell you what genius.......take all these other problems you are whining about, multiply their total cost to taxpayers by 20 and you might cover smoking related issues for 15 days. Pulling the plug on smokers (and obese) benefits is exactly the deterrent our children need to stay away from these bad habits. People in America need to be accountable for their lifestyle, and Medicare/Medicaid needs to start graduating or eliminating benefits for those that made the choices to foster their very poor and very expensive healthcare. At this point, good lifestyle choices aren't even rewarded. Im tired of paying for fatty smoker.
Freedom Rider

Baltimore, MD

#19 Nov 18, 2010
Gettysburg wrote:
For the record, I am a former smoker---what puzzles me is the fact that our government still allows cigarettes to be sold. Any other product that has been suspected to be as harmful as tobacco is removed from the market, but our politicians love that tobacco lobby money...need I say more.
I guess we should ban fatty food too. I am sure you probably weigh 400 pounds. Do not see many skinny people in Adams County. So if you smoke ok if you eat to much ok. I want the goverment out of my life.(And all the do gooders who think everything is bad for them.)
whomever

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Nov 18, 2010
I smoked my last cigarette (after being a smoker over 30 years) at 11:30 A.M. Feb. 22, 2008. Knocked them cold turkey rather than replacing one addiction with another. Although I should've quit for health reasons I finally decided I wouldn't hand over another dime in cig taxes to our corrupt government. If they really wanted people to quit they'd ban them across the board instead of constantly raising the tax. They're merely taking advantage of folk's weaknesses.

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