New Workout Kosama

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Downtown Des Moines

Des Moines, IA

#25 Aug 25, 2010
I was alittle worried I would not be able to do the workout at Kosama...but they assured me that they had modifications for everything they taught. That is so true! I am in the fullest class at the Ingersoll location and they have a coach plus two on the floor at all times to make sure you are doing the correct form and showing you HOW to modify your workout.
unknowngirl

Omaha, NE

#26 Sep 1, 2010
Hi I am not in a terrible shape. 5'4", 111 lbs. Pants size 26. However, my figure used to be good. Now after births of two kids, it's so so and I saw a bigger waist now. I am planning to lose only 5 lbs (mostly in waist area). Now I just started to walk 2 times each day (20 min each time) during work and do abs workout 20 min after work. I am wondering whether I should join a workout program (either Kosama or FXB) or whether it's just a waste of money. Please advise. Thank you.
Insider

Millsboro, DE

#27 Sep 13, 2010
fatbusterclive wrote:
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KOSAMA is a Farrells Extreme Bodyshaping copy nothing else!!
And guess what? Farrell's FXB is an exact copy of the UBC (Ultimate Bodyshaping Challenge) program. This is what Farrell's does, they pay for a license to use a program and then they change the name to make it their own, all the while keeping the exact same format.
rjs

Urbandale, IA

#28 Oct 4, 2010
Farrell's did originally begin by doing Body For Life probably about 11 years ago, then moved to Ultimate Bodyshaping Course, and then from that created FXB. If you read all three books, they are all similiar. There are other programs in the DSM area that have been started by Farrell's members with a similiar concept in mind. I think it is great that Kosama is forcing a little competition so that both have to be on their game with their program. I personally would not go back to Farrell's because there are a lot of people instructing that do not have proper training. Farrell's does train but not through AAFA or any other known association. I hope all their instructors have CPR and First Aid, but from my experience, I don't think they do.
LKW

Navarre, FL

#29 Oct 4, 2010
I went through FXB and received results, but it was clearly a money driven organization. I also found that the coaches, mostly at Grimes location, were nearly cult like. They not only exercised together, vacationed together, but they also entered into relationships with one another. It was pretty twisted to watch. I also watched some of the "coaches" hit on the new 10 week enrollees. Strange group overall. Looking past the integrity and tackiness of the Farrells culture, I'd say you will get results. However, 10 weeks is a starting point, its what you do from there. If Kosama gets the same things completed, but with a little higher moral ground, I'd say give it a try.
trickle

Davenport, IA

#30 Oct 18, 2010
Either program works...however..in both programs you will get people who are not qualified to be teaching. For example, an owner of Kosama was "teaching" kickboxing and told people to do a roundhouse. He went on to describe a front kick and was corrected by a taekwondo blackbelt, whom he shrugged off since he didn't know what he was talking about. Same thing happens at Farrells with the understanding of recovery time -- most instructors don't understand recovery time for large muscle groups. The point is -- both programs will work depending on what you want. In my experience women don't see as good as results as men during the 10 weeks. They tend to see better results at around week 15. I would not say either group has higher moral ground. The point is this -- if you are looking for a company that isn't trying to make money then you need to go to the YMCA.
The Truth

Du Quoin, IL

#31 Oct 19, 2010
Kosama and Farrell's are both great, but if you can't use weight by yourself..... Your *hit out of luck. Do research and hit the gym. If you need someone to push you to workout, your better off just sitting at home watching TV, becasue your only in the program for a couple of weeks. What are you going to do after that ?
FXB Bellevue

Montgomery, AL

#32 Nov 5, 2010
"And in this corner weighing in at..." Wow, that's all this has turned into. Farrell's is not better than P90X, P90X is not better than Kosama, Kosama is not better than Crossfit etc...It's all about what you like and what works for you. I've been at FXB for almost a year and continue to have GREAT results. I did Body for Life 10 years ago and had great results. If you follow any nutrition, cardio and strength plan you will have good results. Personally I like FXB, the coaches and instructors are great and I still challenge MYSELF to get a great workout. Each workout is different because the instructors are different. People on here complain about the intructors or the program, take a look in the mirror. Are you giving it your all every workout? Are you following your nutrition everyday? As far as higher moral ground- Don't judge the FXB program by one location. I'm sure you don't get the same service at every Wal-Mart you go to, but you still shop there don't you?
Kosama in Johnston

Des Moines, IA

#33 Nov 17, 2010
I have been doing Kosama for 12 weeks now. I did not do Farrell's, so I cannot speak to its success/etc. I can say that irregardless of what workout routine you choose, if you do not address you nutrition it will fail. Not a tough concept...eat right and exercise and you will have results. Do what you enjoy, get healthier, be an example to your children to live healthy lives!
age question

Navarre, FL

#34 Nov 23, 2010
I'm 45 and out of shape. Will I feel intimidated at Kosama? I realize this is a subjective question. My assumption is that most everyone is younger and in above average condition.
Hope

Hazel Green, AL

#35 Dec 31, 2010
Regarding the "age question" and Kosama. I am 46 and just finished eight weeks. I know how you feel. I need to lose 50+ pounds and I was concerned that I was too old, too out of shape--and that I would be walking into a room full of very young people who were in perfect shape. Let me reassure you--that you are not too old and the program is for every fitness level. Eight weeks ago, I became winded walking up the stairs with a laundry basket. Now, I am doing lots of push ups and I can complete most of the workout. The structure of the program is sheer genius. Instead of saying, "Ok now we're going to do 20 push ups and 50 mountain climbers"--everything is timed. The instructor tells you to do ONE MINUTE of push up, and then one minute of mountain climbers. You go at YOUR OWN pace. While you are exercising coaches and instructors encourage you, inspire you, help you and let you know that if you need to stop and catch your breath--it's all good. Pretty soon, you notice that you can do more and more and more. I'm about to start the next ten weeks and frankly I'm floored. I joined gyms, tried tapes at home, tried walking. NOTHING worked like this and so fast. I lost nearly 20 lbs in eight weeks.
blah blah blah

Des Moines, IA

#36 Jan 3, 2011
I just signed up for Kosama..as to whether its better or not, I have no idea. I signed up for it because Im ready for something new. My mom did farrells and she was both over weight and over the age of 50.....she lost 30lbs in the first 10 weeks and continues to get in better shape. I should also mention she had two knee replacements.

The people who bag on farrells because its not for older out of shape people should've tried harder, sorry, anything worth having takes hard work. My mom, who has struggled with weight gain her entire life finally found something that works, and she got it with farrells.

Now, as for me, I chose kosama over farrells only because it was closer to my house. If I follow the program to a tee and dont get results, then Im sure to report that, but I suspect Im going to lose a good amount of weight as long as I give it my all, follow their advice and stick to the food guide.

Different things will work for different people, but it comes down to basics, burn more calories than you take in and eat right. Both Farrells, and kosama do that, they just take different paths to guide you to the same results from what Ive seen and heard
Grandma

Ankeny, IA

#37 Jan 7, 2011
I am a 62 year old grandmother who is 35 pounds overweight and have been sedentary all my life. I just finished my first week at Kosama and although every muscle in my body is screaming at me, I am very glad I joined. The coaches take time to suggest modifications for the moves some of us can't yet quite perform, and they are extraordinarily sensitive to individual needs. Yes, most of the people in my class are young and in great shape, but that has not impacted my ability to participate fully and be proud of the progress I can make.
Overweight

Urbandale, IA

#38 Jan 7, 2011
I'm 41 and just started this week at Kosama. I'm about 5'11 and weighed in at 297lbs and haven't worked out in 8 years. Your never too overweight or old. There are alternatives and I have used a couple but hope on doing the full workout at the end of 10 weeks. Expect to be VERY out of breath the first week and sore. Our instructors are constantly walking around showing proper form for every exercise. I'm glad I signed up at Kosama.

My neighbor is a graduate of Farrell's. I looked at his book and both programs work your muscles, build endurance, and keep you cardio fit. I have other friends that went to Farrell's and it's a solid structured program. I initially chose Kosama because of the variety but after reading Farrel's book and talking to my neighbor, they also have variety within each sessions. Their book did go a little deeper in nutrition and what and when you should be eating. That said, Kosama also has their own weight loss program you can participate in if weight loss is your goal.

Nutrition isn't hard to figure out, small 3 or 4 portion meals with 2 snacks. The problem everyone has is just doing it. Keep a good ratio of good carbs, protein, vegetables, and fruit. The hard part is making sure you have your meals ready when you need to eat them and don't skip meals.

You can't go wrong with either. My goal at end of 10 weeks is to be able to do a full complete workout without alternates or taking an extra 5 - 10 second break.(people in either program know what I'm talking about)

I have a treadmill and a home gym. Haven't used them in years. Group setting will motivate you. Trainers and Instructors motivate you. Your new friends in class will motivate you. It's hard, yes, but you will glad you did it in the end. Is one better than the other? I doubt it, their goals are the same, to get us living a healthy active enjoyable life.

Just my 2 cents worth
Kobisking

United States

#39 Jan 14, 2011
Save your money, and purchase Insanity for a fraction of the price. You will get in top shape/ tone, and knock off a few pounds. Shaun T does an excellent job explaining the routines. Save time on travel because you can complete the program in your own home, with no weights or memberships to purchase. You'll be very pleased with the results.
Claire

Hazel Green, AL

#40 Feb 6, 2011
I am paying for Kosama for their workout--but it is more than that. When you are there, the coaches circulate the class and motivate you. There is no way on Earth that I would get HALF the workout at home, that I get at Kosama. They push you. It's just too easy to ease up or go sit on the couch--at home. At Kosama (or even at Farrell's) you are working out with a group of people who are all doing the same tough exercises. You strive to keep up and do the workout. Believe me, I've done tapes at home and joined a gym. I worked hard at the gym, but the constant presence of the coaches and those around you--really keeps you going. The motivation and push you get from the coaches and those around you--cannot be replicated at home. Especially if you are sucking wind, tired, hurting and wanting to take a break. After trying everything--the LAST option for me would be tapes at home. In the end, I would end up wasting my money and I'd have a bunch of unused tapes gathering dust.
Kobisking wrote:
Save your money, and purchase Insanity for a fraction of the price. You will get in top shape/ tone, and knock off a few pounds. Shaun T does an excellent job explaining the routines. Save time on travel because you can complete the program in your own home, with no weights or memberships to purchase. You'll be very pleased with the results.
run05

Fort Dodge, IA

#41 Mar 3, 2011
P90X Theives wrote:
Take a Kosama class...then watch P90X, they stole 85% of their workouts from those DVD's...even in the same order in some cases...ridiculous...I guarantee you check their qualifications and other than the Chiro, nobody else is qualified!
I have completed P90X along with most Beachbody programs. I am a personal trainer and a kickboxing instructor.

KOSAMA is NOTHING like P90X.

Plyo - TOTALLY different..KOSAMA much highter intensity and fun
Kickboxing- Tony has nothing on KOSAMA 100% different..adding a kickboxing bag and high intensity..seriously!
Kettlebells - not ONE kettlebell in P90X
upper body and lower body- not inventing the wheel.. KOSAMA is NOTHING like P90X weight workouts..they BRING IT!

KOSAMA workouts change every day. EVERY DAY...much different than the other's in town.
It is healthy competition people...it's about moving..just get moving!
rjs

Urbandale, IA

#42 Mar 12, 2011
CopyCat wrote:
Talk about ripping off... Farrell's is a copy of Body For Life that was popular about 10 years ago. They just tweaked it.
You are 100% correct, Farrell's used Body for Life when they first started, then Ultimate Body Shaping, and now FXB. This is speaking from experience as I was with the program 7 years. Farrells is fine to start, but not much has changed since I started so long ago. Bands days got pretty boring after a while, and that is why bands days are the days with such low numbers.

Every fitness routine can be taken from another, exercises can be copied. I was more concerned with the training of the instructors for KB, strength, and CPR/First aid. None of these are high on their priority list. But most people probably don't mind that I guess.
Got Goals

Osceola, IA

#43 Mar 15, 2011
You guys are all missing the boat. I just finished the nine week challenge at Goals In Motion and love it. The program is three days kickboxing and three days resistance with bands/kettle bells/exercise balls. The exercises change every three weeks and the people there are incredibly caring. The results were huge st the party Saturday and I was back for more on Monday. The theme of this string is right. They all have benefits and they all are better than sitting on the couch. I just prefer the intimate feeling of the GIM over the corporate feel of Farrells or Kosama.
Miller

Omaha, NE

#45 Mar 31, 2011
Kosama is way better then Farells! They offer more class times as well! Plus its much cheaper! In Omaha if you miss a class they will let you make it up! Its very fun i was very bored at Farells! In fact Farells near me is closing the doors because they just cant do what Kosama has done for many of us!!!

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