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KOSAMA is the REAL DEAL

Prairie Du Chien, WI

#1 Feb 5, 2010
KOSAMA is the most COMPLETE body transformation program around!!!
fatbusterclive

Ivesdale, IL

#2 Feb 7, 2010
KOSAMA is the REAL DEAL wrote:
KOSAMA is the most COMPLETE body transformation program around!!!
KOSAMA is a Farrells Extreme Bodyshaping copy nothing else!!
fatbusterclive

Ivesdale, IL

#3 Feb 7, 2010
Although I do like the online meal guide, that's kind of cool.

But it's still an FXB knockoff!
Kosama is Better

Des Moines, IA

#4 Feb 8, 2010
It is most certainly NOT anything like Farrells. I have taken Farrells and all Farrells does is kickboxing and band resistance training. I was so bored after 4 weeks of doing the same thing at Farrells every other day! This Kosama program is far and away better than Farrells. Each day in Kosama is something different. Kickboxing is only 1 day a week along with kettlebells, upper/lower body lifting, plyometrics and yoga. Kosama is the Nike brand of complete body transformation as Farrells is the red wings! I highly suggest taking a close look at joining Kosama.
FXB is great

Des Moines, IA

#5 Feb 28, 2010
First I will disclose I am a current Farrell's member and have been for about 7 months. I've dropped 40+ lbs and am in the best shape of my life. I find it curios that Kosama bills itself as so much better than Farrell's, but its program is so similar.
I want to make it clear that every workout is a little bit different at Farrell's. Different instructors, different kickboxing routines, and different muscle building exercises offer variety for each workout. Yes Farrell's alternates kickboxing with resistant bands (instead of 6 different workouts), but their program has been designed and perfected to achieve results. I cannot believe you would see the same results doing different routines every day (and only getting each different workout once per week). Personally I love the kickboxing workouts at Farrell's and only being able to do it once a week (like @ Kosama) would suck! In addition, what if you have to miss a day at Kosama? If you miss a kickboxing class for that week, it would be two weeks between kickboxing classes for you.
Really either program will benefit you as long as you dedicate yourself. And nothing says you cannot do other things besides Kickboxing and Resistance bands. I do Farrells and I also run, do extra core exercises, and participate in sports activities when I feel like it.
The last thing I will say is the nutrition aspect is really the key to achieving results and making a life change, and I think Farrel's has Kosama beat there. Farrell's nutrition guidelines can be a big change for some, but are really not hard to work into everyday life and it requires no website to tell someone how to eat better.
Dominic Pirillo

Bettendorf, IA

#6 Mar 5, 2010
FXB is great wrote:
First I will disclose I am a current Farrell's member and have been for about 7 months. I've dropped 40+ lbs and am in the best shape of my life. I find it curios that Kosama bills itself as so much better than Farrell's, but its program is so similar.
I want to make it clear that every workout is a little bit different at Farrell's. Different instructors, different kickboxing routines, and different muscle building exercises offer variety for each workout. Yes Farrell's alternates kickboxing with resistant bands (instead of 6 different workouts), but their program has been designed and perfected to achieve results. I cannot believe you would see the same results doing different routines every day (and only getting each different workout once per week). Personally I love the kickboxing workouts at Farrell's and only being able to do it once a week (like @ Kosama) would suck! In addition, what if you have to miss a day at Kosama? If you miss a kickboxing class for that week, it would be two weeks between kickboxing classes for you.
Really either program will benefit you as long as you dedicate yourself. And nothing says you cannot do other things besides Kickboxing and Resistance bands. I do Farrells and I also run, do extra core exercises, and participate in sports activities when I feel like it.
The last thing I will say is the nutrition aspect is really the key to achieving results and making a life change, and I think Farrel's has Kosama beat there. Farrell's nutrition guidelines can be a big change for some, but are really not hard to work into everyday life and it requires no website to tell someone how to eat better.
Farells may be fine for a lot of people but in my opinion it has become over-crowded and the monetary contest is nothing but a marketing incentive that promotes unsustainable, sometimes unhealthy weight loss just to keep building memberships. KOSAMA is BETTER !!
Disageee

Duluth, MN

#7 Mar 5, 2010
I understand some people will prefer the variety at Kosama, that is their right. I just don't think they will see the results they might see at Farrells.

As for your other comment, what do you think Kosama is striving for? They want the same popularity and full classes as Farrell's and they give out the same cash incentive for new members.

The cash prize for the winner of each 10 week session (another thing Kosama copied from Farrell's) is not awarded based on weight lost. It is based on total body transformation. If you look at all past winners many didn't lose much weight at all, but simply toned up or even added muscle (weight). Farrell's wants people to reshape their bodies, not necessarily lose weight. I am a coach and instructor at Farrells and we DO NOT emphasize weight loss. If people come in weighing 300 lbs and are not active, they are going to lose weight as their body adjusts to the nutrition and physical activity. Other people will not lose as much, or at all, but will change the shape of their body. In no way is Farrell's looking for unhealthy change. I have been doing Farrells for 7+ months now and I have been losing an average of 1.5 lbs per week, which is a perfectly healthy rate. Farrell's teaches their nutrition aspect as a life change, not as a quick weight loss diet fad. It is up to the individual to use the information given to them to make that change however.

I understand people wanting more variety in their workout and that is why Kosama is appealing. But you cannot discredit Farrells when Kosama is essentially a Farrells copy. As mentioned above I think both programs will work, as long as people are dedicated to make a change. I just think people will get better results with Farrells and I don't like to see people put Farrells down for reasons that don't even make sense if you know their program.
P90X Theives

Des Moines, IA

#8 Mar 17, 2010
Take a Kosama class...then watch P90X, they stole 85% of their workouts from those DVD's...even in the same order in some cases...ridiculous...I guarantee you check their qualifications and other than the Chiro, nobody else is qualified!
Really a thief

Des Moines, IA

#10 Mar 19, 2010
Weird, I've heard the guy who created P90X stole everything in his video/workouts from someone he used to train with, he just marketed it in a video first. Not sure if there is truth to that, but I would not be surprised.
Really, it's not like anyone stole anything. You cannot patent or protect "workout moves" done with your own body. And since none of these programs (as far as I know) use revolutionary new products they can patent, they are just rehashing things possibly done by other people in the past. I have done P90X and Farrell's and a lot of moves are similar, but that's the same with any workout routine. There are only so many ways to work certain muscles effectively. I hope to someday open a fitness facility and I would bet I will incorporate some of my favorite routines and moves I've picked up over time. Nothing wrong with that, just passing on what works.
How about a real workout

Bondurant, IA

#11 Apr 2, 2010
You can tinker around with 10 week programs all you like but if you really want to be in shape you should consider Spartan Strength in Clive. It's owned and run by an actual professional trainaer (novel idea..). If you're putting your well being in someone's hands, s/he better be a professional.
I've been at Spartan Strength for 6 months and am seeing great results. In adition, you can learn real Muy Thai kickboxing, not cardio kickboxing aka Farrells/Kosama style. The Muy Thai is optional though so you don't have to particpate if you don't want to. It's a great place with no gimmicks. You will work hard and you will see results.
Elite Fitness

Carroll, IA

#12 Apr 16, 2010
For true workout and training...check out crossfit Des Moines ( www.crossfitdesmoines.com ) or Spartan Strength....leave your matching workout clothes at home buttercup. Learn to love your workouts. No dance moves or 8 counts...get er done workouts that will leave you on the floor quivering._I have done fxb...okay results no desire to go again - but Crossfit Des Moines keeps you wanting more.
Josh

Omaha, NE

#13 May 5, 2010
I've been a very active person all my life. I swim, run, and enjoy martial arts (Judo, Jujitsu, and Tae Kwon Do). I've taken boot camps and 300 style programs. I have enjoyed all of which.
I think that any fitness program has the potential change someone's life. That is one of the things I appreciated about Farrell's. I started at Farrell's as a part of their ten week program, not realizing that it really would change my life, and you can continue on past the ten weeks if you like. I really like that when I was coming to the end of my ten weeks, they encouraged people to continue working on their fitness and health, even if it isn’t with Farrell’s. They genuinely care. They have nutrition seminars and assign coaches to work with you so you have a familiar someone to ask questions.
As for the commons about the becoming bored with a program confuses me. If you go to the gym and lift weights, you do the same task over and over again. This will give you results too. I ask, what is your primary goal for working out if it isn’t the results? That being said, I noticed at Farrell’s they stick to the same key routines for the first four weeks, and this is intentional. They want to make sure you have good form in order to get good results and prevent injury. Even while sticking to these routines, you get a good workout, and there is no intimidation, just learning and striving each and every day. Many fitness programs now a days, do not take injury prevention into account. With Farrell’s after the first so many weeks, the routines start varying up, and they can be a lot of fun.
Another impressive point about Farrell’s is that almost anyone can do it. There are very few limitations that would keep someone from being able to do Farrell’s. So if you are someone who’s extremely overweight and never been part of a regular fitness program you can do Farrell’s, and the fit people who have worked out regularly get an extremely good workout at the same time. There is no judgment, people encourage each other, and after ten weeks, you start to feel like the people around you are your Farrell’s family.
I became a coach and an instructor at Farrell’s because I believe in the program, and I highly recommend it. I am not familiar with KOSAMA, and if people enjoy it and it helps them great. It does sound similar to Farrell’s but without taking the program, I really can’t judge. I just thought I would throw in my 2-cents.
not impressed

Jefferson City, MO

#14 May 21, 2010
Well I can tell you I started Farrells and was NOT impressed. I told them before I started that I was waaay out of shape and they assurred me I would get lots of help. That didn't happen. I begged them for my money back after 2 weeks and they said NO. I tried to keep up for a 3rd week and gave up. I lost my money and I would never go to a Farrells again. A total rip off. You just go to this overfilled class, no one helps you with your form and if you can't keep up, they just leave you in the dust. I felt totally ripped off!
FXB Fan

Des Moines, IA

#15 May 29, 2010
Kosama or Farrell's it really doesn't matter. The majority of the American people are obese. This kind of competition is better than the race between McDonald's and Burger King. As long as you choose between Farrell's or Kosama and not McDonald's or Burger King you will definitely be better off.
Agreed

Des Moines, IA

#16 Jun 7, 2010
Amen.
Just Do It

Des Moines, IA

#17 Jun 9, 2010
This thread is really kind of commical to read. Sounds like a bunch of 3rd graders on the playground saying "my dad is bigger than your dad". Really peeps, doesn't matter if your kicking a bag (FXB), lifting a kettle bell (Kosama) or doing pushups standing on our head (Crossfit)...at least you are doing something! That's what really counts! All workouts are based on two key things, the effort you put into it and the drive to go to the gym!
Nrackham1

Ankeny, IA

#18 Jul 8, 2010
Do a youtube search for making of P90X and you'll see it's original material at least in its organization. Im not saying he invented the push up but plagerism is still plagerism even if the original author hasnt put a patent on the English language. ie without Tony Horton and P90X Kosama would just be a place in Finland. That said at least people here are working out keep it up!
CopyCat

Des Moines, IA

#21 Aug 11, 2010
Talk about ripping off... Farrell's is a copy of Body For Life that was popular about 10 years ago. They just tweaked it.
artsy

Huntsville, AL

#23 Aug 17, 2010
Josh wrote:
I've been a very active person all my life. I swim, run, and enjoy martial arts (Judo, Jujitsu, and Tae Kwon Do). I've taken boot camps and 300 style programs. I have enjoyed all of which.
I think that any fitness program has the potential change someone's life. That is one of the things I appreciated about Farrell's. I started at Farrell's as a part of their ten week program, not realizing that it really would change my life, and you can continue on past the ten weeks if you like. I really like that when I was coming to the end of my ten weeks, they encouraged people to continue working on their fitness and health, even if it isn’t with Farrell’s. They genuinely care. They have nutrition seminars and assign coaches to work with you so you have a familiar someone to ask questions.
As for the commons about the becoming bored with a program confuses me. If you go to the gym and lift weights, you do the same task over and over again. This will give you results too. I ask, what is your primary goal for working out if it isn’t the results? That being said, I noticed at Farrell’s they stick to the same key routines for the first four weeks, and this is intentional. They want to make sure you have good form in order to get good results and prevent injury. Even while sticking to these routines, you get a good workout, and there is no intimidation, just learning and striving each and every day. Many fitness programs now a days, do not take injury prevention into account. With Farrell’s after the first so many weeks, the routines start varying up, and they can be a lot of fun.
Another impressive point about Farrell’s is that almost anyone can do it. There are very few limitations that would keep someone from being able to do Farrell’s. So if you are someone who’s extremely overweight and never been part of a regular fitness program you can do Farrell’s, and the fit people who have worked out regularly get an extremely good workout at the same time. There is no judgment, people encourage each other, and after ten weeks, you start to feel like the people around you are your Farrell’s family.
I became a coach and an instructor at Farrell’s because I believe in the program, and I highly recommend it. I am not familiar with KOSAMA, and if people enjoy it and it helps them great. It does sound similar to Farrell’s but without taking the program, I really can’t judge. I just thought I would throw in my 2-cents.
My husband and I, who are in our mid to late fifties did Farrell's two years ago and felt that it was for a younger clientele. I think you can get in shape without such severe banging of the body. My twenty year old daughter loved Farrell's and even was a coach. I do not recommend Farrell's for older, out of shape individuals.
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United States

#24 Aug 20, 2010
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