Does God belong in schools?

Mar 24, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Independent

Faith schools applying for 'free' status are one of Michael Gove's biggest headaches.

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Baabs

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Yes, God is believed to be everywhere, and why not teach children how to invoke His presence in all schools where children can lear more about God by people who learned to think before believing.

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Absolutely not! We don't spend time on Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny in school. God is no different!
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as the C of E is our state religion, only C of E schools should be tolerated, but I would perhaps make an exception for Catholics. No moslem schools should be allowed at all.

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Isn't he a bit too old to be going to school?
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Baabs wrote:
Yes, God is believed to be everywhere, and why not teach children how to invoke His presence in all schools where children can lear more about God by people who learned to think before believing.
No god is NOT believed to be everywhere. Only those who insist on supporting a mythical being believe this thing is everywhere. Religion belongs in the privacy of your home or in the church you attend. Why are people like you so arrogant to think all believe as you? and worse to imagine that your private belief should be forced on children. It's bad enough that the young unformed mind is force feed the horrors of religion, as far as I'm concerned this constitutes child abuse, and you want this taught is public schools?
Baabs

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Children can do what ever they want after they learn about the different concepts of God as held and promoted by all the different religions. That should be the spirit of teaching the concepts of God in schools. The same goes for the evolution theory.

Didn't we all, learn about God somewhere or the other, and became beter citizens from it? So why not continue to promote all the concepts of God and creation, so that children may do with them whatever they wish as they grow up.

Millions of us ended up believing and practicing what we learned in schools, while others did not. Why deprive the children of the same opportunities to learn about a concept with which they can do whatever they like, if it suits their dispositions and needs.

The concept of God in the Abrahamic or Semitic religions is much different frm those in Eastern religions. Hindus believe in God more as function than form, and as divinity as a function in the totality of the universe.

The concept of an indwelling force as God in you as you, based on truth and right conduct is more suited for children as a choice in the God system of beliefs.
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So who is the arrogant one when one also tries to propagate his own beliefs systems and reject others?

Many schools excuse children from participating in religious studies in which their parents may have no interest.

It is never compulsory to teach someone a religion in which he may not believe. But it is not a bad idea to expose one to all the religious belief systems held by people in the communities in which they live.
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The scientific conscencus view should also be taught. It will allow youngsters to decide for themselves with a more rounded background of considerations. This is one of the things being left behind.
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God is very smart and he-she-it doesn't belong in school.
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Baabs wrote:
Children can do what ever they want after they learn about the different concepts of God as held and promoted by all the different religions. That should be the spirit of teaching the concepts of God in schools. The same goes for the evolution theory.
Didn't we all, learn about God somewhere or the other, and became beter citizens from it? So why not continue to promote all the concepts of God and creation, so that children may do with them whatever they wish as they grow up.
Millions of us ended up believing and practicing what we learned in schools, while others did not. Why deprive the children of the same opportunities to learn about a concept with which they can do whatever they like, if it suits their dispositions and needs.
The concept of God in the Abrahamic or Semitic religions is much different frm those in Eastern religions. Hindus believe in God more as function than form, and as divinity as a function in the totality of the universe.
The concept of an indwelling force as God in you as you, based on truth and right conduct is more suited for children as a choice in the God system of beliefs.
There is NO comparison between god concepts and evolution, evolution is simply a fact, a god concept has nothing to do with the naturalistic realm we all live in, it's a belief system, beliefs of imaginary beings and supernatural events. No myths should be introduced in public school, if your going to do that then all the religious myths from hundreds of imaginary god should be taught. I hope your not arrogant enough to presuppose you have the ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD.
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So who is the arrogant one when one also tries to propagate his own beliefs systems and reject others?
Many schools excuse children from participating in religious studies in which their parents may have no interest.
It is never compulsory to teach someone a religion in which he may not believe. But it is not a bad idea to expose one to all the religious belief systems held by people in the communities in which they live.
I have no belief system, and if I did I would keep it private, certainly not try and introduce it to children.
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Excuse me, but you have no belief system!! Don't you believe in love? Even atheists believes in love.

Do you not live your life according to spiritual/philosophical thoughts, the basis for personal human enrichment and development?

So is the concept of love not also a concept of God, the concept for humanity as a living entity, supporting and helping each other as a unitary whole.

Love is God and God is love and God is all there is.
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Excuse me, but you have no belief system!! Don't you believe in love? Even atheists believes in love.
Do you not live your life according to spiritual/philosophical thoughts, the basis for personal human enrichment and development?
So is the concept of love not also a concept of God, the concept for humanity as a living entity, supporting and helping each other as a unitary whole.
Love is God and God is love and God is all there is.
Increasingly people believe in a secular society and secular schools, where spiritual dogmas are not forced upon children.

For those interested in God, they should do their endoctrinating at home within the family.
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While in theory what you have written sounds fair and reasonable on paper. But, unfortunately in practise, we do not live in an idealistic world.

Giving children both sides at school. The spiritual versus evolutionary theory, is reasonable. Having said that, there are a number of religions that a child can be born into that are already a solid part of their family life and some say openly, in any child's formative years, they almost make it known,'the child only needs to be exposed to our religion for a few years and we have them for life.' Therefore, giving the option for a child to make a decision when they are grown up, in many cases it is far too late.

Brainwashing is hard to undo.

If all schools were non-denominational, what you suggest is fair comment. But, they are not.

Many people are already offended that God is used in everyday language. Even in Government paperwork. It's embedded in the American Constitution and in many western countries far too much now - often giving evidence in court, requires one to place their hand on a bible and say 'So help me God' and if they tell the judge, as they can often do,'sorry your honour, but I'm agnostic or atheist' will only put in the minds of many Jurors they are a heathen. Not a good thing to be seen as, in many cases.

I don't think, therefore in this day and age that God should be mentioned in schools. There's enough televangelists now if they need to explore the internet. Or they can be led by their families. Teach them the things they need to know like correct English, world Geography, world History, political structures, art and science. Theology belongs only in the home. Whether by family values or their own internet curiosity.
Baabs wrote:
Children can do what ever they want after they learn about the different concepts of God as held and promoted by all the different religions. That should be the spirit of teaching the concepts of God in schools. The same goes for the evolution theory.
Didn't we all, learn about God somewhere or the other, and became beter citizens from it? So why not continue to promote all the concepts of God and creation, so that children may do with them whatever they wish as they grow up.
Millions of us ended up believing and practicing what we learned in schools, while others did not. Why deprive the children of the same opportunities to learn about a concept with which they can do whatever they like, if it suits their dispositions and needs.
The concept of God in the Abrahamic or Semitic religions is much different frm those in Eastern religions. Hindus believe in God more as function than form, and as divinity as a function in the totality of the universe.
The concept of an indwelling force as God in you as you, based on truth and right conduct is more suited for children as a choice in the God system of beliefs.
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It is all about one's definition about the concept of God.

Millions have developed strong beliefs in God and millions too have rejected the concept of a God.

Where is the brainwashing if you have the option of sitting in a clssroom where the concept of God is taught and that of taking another subject that is non God related.

Who is paying for our schools, and why should we not have a say in what is taught and not taught in our schools?

Teaching a broad range of concepts about God is quite different from teaching one concept of God.

Many of us went to Catholic schools and were never asked to believe in the Christian principle of God. Many of us spent our time during the religious period doing another subject. What harm has that done anyone? Every parent paid for that educational system in one way or another, as it was State sponsored education.
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Satan does, that for CERTAIN.

And all on the taxpayer dime!
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All things Satanic in our schools:

Islam is taught.

Buddha is taught.

Hindi is taught.

Marxism is glorified.
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Yes, let's be more like Iraq, Iran, Libya, etc
They teach about God all day long in school.

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