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Beach Cities Health District a health care model

There are 22 comments on the Daily Breeze story from Sep 29, 2009, titled Beach Cities Health District a health care model. In it, Daily Breeze reports that:

Denise Dumars and Paul Kraatz, both of Redondo Beach, exercise in a restorative yoga class held at the Beach Cities Health District in RB.

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District Member

Camarillo, CA

#1 Sep 30, 2009
Nice fluff piece about this boondoggle. I'll bet the percentage of South Bay taxpayers using this facility is very, very low. When they closed the hospital we should have folded up the district. It is an administrators full employment act. Too bad we no longer have investigative reporting.

Do they even give flu shots?
The Insane are not cute

Manhattan Beach, CA

#2 Sep 30, 2009
If the district is "folded", the taxes don't go away, they just get "folded" into the county's "general fund".

These guys should fund all school health related activities, from the nurse to PE.

What ever is left should go to fund emergency care.(This one is tricky, because if it's done wrong, the firemen will just suck up the money to give themselves a raise. The long term solution there is to remove the EMS stuff from the Fire Departments.)
District Staff

Pasadena, CA

#3 Sep 30, 2009
District Member wrote:
Nice fluff piece about this boondoggle. I'll bet the percentage of South Bay taxpayers using this facility is very, very low. When they closed the hospital we should have folded up the district. It is an administrators full employment act. Too bad we no longer have investigative reporting.
Do they even give flu shots?
Health District services are provided primarily to area residents. For example, senior in-home services which serves 600 fragile elderly a year can only be provided to residence. We can give more examples.

BCHD will be the site for the H1NI shot on Oct. 24. We are the only site in the three beach cities. Please come!
SouthpawShaw

United States

#4 Sep 30, 2009
District Member wrote:
Nice fluff piece about this boondoggle. I'll bet the percentage of South Bay taxpayers using this facility is very, very low. When they closed the hospital we should have folded up the district. It is an administrators full employment act. Too bad we no longer have investigative reporting.
Do they even give flu shots?
Even if taxpayers aren't going to the gym and actively taking part in the programs, the District still makes a positive impact on the community overall through its school, family and elderly initiatives, which all residents benefit from. As the article says, it's shortsighted to discount preventative programs because they're difficult to monetize and may take years to show their greatest returns.

What really impresses me about the District is its fiscal responsibility and the fact that only 1/5 of their income stems from taxpayers. How many other tax-funded businesses/organizations can you name that give a 500% return on investment?
Yellowbird

Longview, WA

#5 Sep 30, 2009
Although I like the services this gives, I don't for ONE MINUTE want this on my PROPERTY TAXES. No way Jose. Funny how the anti public health care folk don't mind dinging property owners to squeeze the UN rich out of their neighborhoods. It makes home ownership so che che doesn't it?
District Staff

Downey, CA

#6 Sep 30, 2009
The Insane are not cute wrote:
If the district is "folded", the taxes don't go away, they just get "folded" into the county's "general fund".
These guys should fund all school health related activities, from the nurse to PE.
What ever is left should go to fund emergency care.(This one is tricky, because if it's done wrong, the firemen will just suck up the money to give themselves a raise. The long term solution there is to remove the EMS stuff from the Fire Departments.)
The writer is correct about funding schools. BCHD funds school PE, nurses, health staff, and doctor's/dentist appointments for kids whose family can not afford to pay. BCHD has been funding the local school districts for over 20 years.
District Member

Camarillo, CA

#7 Sep 30, 2009
The school district should fund their own health programs. This is another example of "bait and switch". 20%, sure. What about the assets (land, buildings) the HD inherited from the taxpayers. Unfortunately, most of the property owners paying this tax are too busy working to pay much attention.

Nice to know some shots will be available. I'll use my personally paid provider, thanks. It is also good to know "Health District services are provided primarily to area residents." this begs the question about those who are not from the area.
District Staff

Downey, CA

#8 Sep 30, 2009
District Member wrote:
The school district should fund their own health programs. This is another example of "bait and switch". 20%, sure. What about the assets (land, buildings) the HD inherited from the taxpayers. Unfortunately, most of the property owners paying this tax are too busy working to pay much attention.
Nice to know some shots will be available. I'll use my personally paid provider, thanks. It is also good to know "Health District services are provided primarily to area residents." this begs the question about those who are not from the area.
To answer the quesstion about "out of area." The only way an out of area resident can recieve a service is by paying the cost of the service so that it is not a cost to local residents. The beach cities residence may recieve low or no cost services if they "income qualify" based on standardized poverty guidelines for health & dentail services. We work with about 2900 local residence year who have little or no health insurance. We pay for their first appointments to the doctor or dentist and assist them with getting insurance. We are a local safety net for the uninsured.
The Insane are not cute

Manhattan Beach, CA

#9 Sep 30, 2009
District Staff wrote:
<quoted text>The writer is correct about funding schools. BCHD funds school PE, nurses, health staff, and doctor's/dentist appointments for kids whose family can not afford to pay. BCHD has been funding the local school districts for over 20 years.
You miss the point.

The BCHD should fund ALL of the health related things. That is, it should "relieve" the school districts of that cost.

And as far as the RBFD's fancy gym goes, for $60/month and District Resident can go to ANY commercial gym in the district. Where is the "value added"?
District Staff

Downey, CA

#11 Sep 30, 2009
The Insane are not cute wrote:
<quoted text>You miss the point.
The BCHD should fund ALL of the health related things. That is, it should "relieve" the school districts of that cost.
And as far as the RBFD's fancy gym goes, for $60/month and District Resident can go to ANY commercial gym in the district. Where is the "value added"?
You can join the gym for $6 a week or $24 a month. We have a sliding scale for residents who can not afford that. Most people think that is a good value. In regard to school funding, we balance our funding across age groups to include the uninsured and senior. Thanks for your comments.
SouthpawShaw

United States

#12 Oct 1, 2009
The Insane are not cute wrote:
<quoted text>You miss the point.
The BCHD should fund ALL of the health related things. That is, it should "relieve" the school districts of that cost.
And as far as the RBFD's fancy gym goes, for $60/month and District Resident can go to ANY commercial gym in the district. Where is the "value added"?
I'm a member at the gym, which is how I learned about what the district provides, and one of the big reasons I joined was because it was the best deal in town and one of the nicest gyms. And, unlike many of the other local gyms that feel more like social hubs, the BCHD gym has old and young, fit and unfit members primarily there to work out.

It seems commendable that BCHD would try to subsidize some health education programs, since they couldn't afford to do it all. It's looking for places where they can have the greatest impact and activating...nothing wrong with that in my eyes.
RB RN

Desert Hot Springs, CA

#13 Oct 2, 2009
District Member wrote:
The school district should fund their own health programs. This is another example of "bait and switch". 20%, sure. What about the assets (land, buildings) the HD inherited from the taxpayers. Unfortunately, most of the property owners paying this tax are too busy working to pay much attention.
Nice to know some shots will be available. I'll use my personally paid provider, thanks. It is also good to know "Health District services are provided primarily to area residents." this begs the question about those who are not from the area.
Good point. Good questions. Anyone have answers?
RB RN

Desert Hot Springs, CA

#14 Oct 2, 2009
Just read post #8.
Bev MB

Waimanalo, HI

#15 Oct 6, 2009
is the bchd's response, above, to the flu vaccination query, that the (beach cities residents-supported) facility is 'hosting' a vaccination clinic? not supplying them to the residents?

i'm also wondering why the district staff/torrance ca responses are not a redondo beach ca designated site?

bchd IS located at 512 n prospect ave, redondo beach
District Staff

Downey, CA

#16 Oct 6, 2009
The HINI Flu Shot Clinic at 514 N. Prospect, Redondo Beach is a drive through clinic on 10/24/09. The shots are free. We open at 9 am that morning. We want to thank all the medical volunteers from Little Company of Mary, Torrance Memorial, and the BCHD Medical Reserve Corp who are helping that day.

This response is from Redondo, not quite sure what is happening with cyberspace/Torrance being shown. Please ask any other questions, we are happy to help.
Sell BCHD

Venice, CA

#17 Oct 9, 2009
The Redondo Library internet says TORRANCE, so cool your jets on where stuff comes from. The BCHD is the biggest WASTE of money in the area. We pay MILLION$$$$ per year to keep it running, and over the the 40 years that it was a HOSPITAL - IT'S ORIGINAL CHARTER - it amassed $80M in assets according to its own BOARD of DIRECTORS. We want our TAX MONEY BACK! Sell the assets and give them back to Hermosa, Manhattan and Redondo and shut it DOWN. It's just a health club and real estate investment company now.
BCHD Taxes

Venice, CA

#18 Oct 9, 2009
District Member wrote:
Nice fluff piece about this boondoggle. I'll bet the percentage of South Bay taxpayers using this facility is very, very low. When they closed the hospital we should have folded up the district. It is an administrators full employment act. Too bad we no longer have investigative reporting.
Do they even give flu shots?
True. It's mostly ILLEGALS and Hawthorne/Gardena. Just watch who comes there. Also, it's MOSTLY just a real estate company now, renting office space to Doctors.
Subsidized

Venice, CA

#19 Oct 9, 2009
District Staff wrote:
<quoted text>You can join the gym for $6 a week or $24 a month. We have a sliding scale for residents who can not afford that. Most people think that is a good value. In regard to school funding, we balance our funding across age groups to include the uninsured and senior. Thanks for your comments.
Why is BCHD using OUR TAX MONEY to compete with legitimate health clubs? What kind of socialist BS is that? Give us back our TAXES, sell the property, and get out of town.
Taxes

Venice, CA

#20 Oct 9, 2009
Yellowbird wrote:
Although I like the services this gives, I don't for ONE MINUTE want this on my PROPERTY TAXES. No way Jose. Funny how the anti public health care folk don't mind dinging property owners to squeeze the UN rich out of their neighborhoods. It makes home ownership so che che doesn't it?
They've been taxing you for 50 years. When it quit being a HOSPITAL, they should have sold off all the asset and given back all the tax money.
Grizzle

United States

#21 Oct 9, 2009
Changing your name and then commenting on the post you just wrote is pretty pathetic (post #17-20 all from Torrance and within 5 minutes). That's fine that you have an opinion on the matter, but don't try to make it seem like lots of different people.

Besides, lots of government agencies own buildings, which they provide services from. At least the BCHD has found a way to continue making money from it, rather than a one time sale.

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