There Shouldn't be Rules to Being GLBT

Jan 24, 2012 Full story: www.womanist-musings.com 19

So many things you must do or mustnít do. All the hidden rules of being marginalised, the hoops you have to jump through, the constant checking and second-guessing.

There are things you donít do out of fear to pandering to various stereotypes. We all know those rules Ė I donít comment on clothes or fashion (partly because I donít care, but it has reached a level of pretending to not even knowing what Versace is and godsí preserve you if you actually know Jimmy Chos are shoes). If Iím decorating any room it is carried out in the utmost stealth because 2 gay men cannot possibly be seen to be involved in interior design without it being a gay thing (we live in a cave. Yes, a cave with rough hewn rock walls. Paint has never ever entered our home, honest). Music choices must be carefully vetted in case they reveal to much disturbing gayness. And while a straight man wearing pink is mature and secure in his sexuality, Beloved going out in that ghastly pink shirt is just seen as a gay man being extra gay. And Iíve lost count of the times Iíve bit my tongue because I fear being seen as a catty, sarcastic queen (and, believe me, giving up sarcasm is an epic sacrifice).

Of course these seem comic, but thereís a lot of trouble behind them, the second guessing of your actions, the checking of stereotypes (Iíve been accused of stereotypes I never even knew existed. And Iíve given up on hair Ė there is absolutely no hair length or style you can possibly wear that isnít somehow ďgayĒ apparently) the constant push not to be boxed. Because all it takes is one stereotype too many and youíre not a person any more Ė you become a gay.

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Tucksun Jack

Tucson, AZ

#1 Jan 24, 2012
Society has rules for EVERYTHING.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#2 Jan 24, 2012
There certainly ARE rules, honey!

First off, it LGBT, dummy!

;-)

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#3 Jan 24, 2012
snyper wrote:
There certainly ARE rules, honey!
First off, it LGBT, dummy!
;-)
What??? GLBT isn't acceptable to you?? We have to follow your rules now, too???
KMX

Austin, TX

#4 Jan 24, 2012
It's GBLT; Guacamole, Bacon, Lettuce, and Tomato. Why would Lettuce go first?

Oh, wait... wrong forum. Sorry.

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#5 Jan 24, 2012
KMX wrote:
It's GBLT; Guacamole, Bacon, Lettuce, and Tomato. Why would Lettuce go first?
Oh, wait... wrong forum. Sorry.
Well there you go. Adding Guacamole turned the sandwich gay :)
Snickers

Grove City, PA

#6 Jan 24, 2012
Everybody has rulems even those who claim they are against something in society. Somebody is always watching. Somebody is always ready to pounce. You play the game for acceptance. It is like high school blown up into real life. The only way to avoid rules is to not care at all if anybody at all accepts you. Takes a strong person who can be rejected by everybody and still not care. And if you are in the business of demanding no rules, then you are imposing rules. Get over it!
Jake

Saint Cloud, MN

#7 Jan 24, 2012
snyper wrote:
There certainly ARE rules, honey!
First off, it LGBT, dummy!
;-)
LULZ. "LGBT" has only become the common term in the past few years, and it honesty probably has a lot to do with the fact that more women go to college now than men, and college is where the movements are really active--privileged kids who have all their needs taken care of for them have the luxury of taking up causes. So it's taken on a feminist perspective.

Personally, I think GLBT is more inclusive, since lesbians are gay women, but gay guys are not lesbian men. But hey, I'm a gay man, so that might color my perspective.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#8 Jan 24, 2012
Gay Mom wrote:
<quoted text>
What??? GLBT isn't acceptable to you?? We have to follow your rules now, too???
Of course you do!

I decided to re-register as a Republican Catholic so I can tell everyone how to live, define all their terms for them ... and abuse, oppress and punish them so they'll know how much I really love them.

Speaking ex cathedra from my bellybutton, of course.
addicted to chocolate

Anonymous Proxy

#9 Jan 24, 2012
everything is govern by some rules. that's the way it is since the beginning. you can not change that fact.---> http://www.relationshipdatingblog.com/

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#10 Jan 24, 2012
Jake wrote:
<quoted text>
LULZ. "LGBT" has only become the common term in the past few years, and it honesty probably has a lot to do with the fact that more women go to college now than men, and college is where the movements are really active--privileged kids who have all their needs taken care of for them have the luxury of taking up causes. So it's taken on a feminist perspective.
Personally, I think GLBT is more inclusive, since lesbians are gay women, but gay guys are not lesbian men. But hey, I'm a gay man, so that might color my perspective.
In my home town, we originally had

"The Gay Community Center" (I helped to start it then moved on to other projects)

then it became

"The Gay and Lesbian Community Center"

then

"The Lesbian and Gay Community Center"

then

"The Lesbian, Gay and Bi Community Center"

then

"The Lesbian, Gay, Bi and Questioning Community Center"

then

"The Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Transgendered and Questioning Community Center"

then

"The Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Transgendered, Questioning and Others Community Center"

then

"The Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Transgendered, Questioning and Beyond Labels Community Center"

then

"The Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Transgendered, Family and Friends Of Community Center"

(These last five all occurred in a 3 year period)

About this time I got wind of this and began noising it about that it should be called

"The Anything-But-Hetero Community Center"

or

"The Pigeon-Hole Center"

or

"The Particularity Center"

I guess that embarrassed them and they finally settled on calling it

"The Diversity Center".

I still rag them that "Somebody from out of town STILL CAN'T FIND THEM IN THE PHONEBOOK!"

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#11 Jan 24, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course you do!
I decided to re-register as a Republican Catholic so I can tell everyone how to live, define all their terms for them ... and abuse, oppress and punish them so they'll know how much I really love them.
Speaking ex cathedra from my bellybutton, of course.
Does your belly button move when it speaks???

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#12 Jan 24, 2012
Gay Mom wrote:
<quoted text>
Does your belly button move when it speaks???
It's a Republican Catholic bellybutton now.

It has trouble deciding if it's an Inny or an Outy, and scrupling about exactly how far it can go before it's a mortal sin.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#13 Jan 24, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a Republican Catholic bellybutton now.
It has trouble deciding if it's an Inny or an Outy, and scrupling about exactly how far it can go before it's a mortal sin.
Ah, the moral dilemma of such decisions!!! Poor bellybutton. Doesn't Jesus love Innies and Outties???

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#14 Jan 24, 2012
Gay Mom wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, the moral dilemma of such decisions!!! Poor bellybutton. Doesn't Jesus love Innies and Outties???
Only Innies. At least according to Republican Catholic Insiders.
BDE

San Diego, CA

#15 Jan 24, 2012
Best discussion I have ever read here!

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#16 Jan 24, 2012
Snickers wrote:
Everybody has rulems even those who claim they are against something in society. Somebody is always watching. Somebody is always ready to pounce. You play the game for acceptance. It is like high school blown up into real life. The only way to avoid rules is to not care at all if anybody at all accepts you. Takes a strong person who can be rejected by everybody and still not care. And if you are in the business of demanding no rules, then you are imposing rules. Get over it!
WOW. Every once in a while you impress me.

Recently opened a fortune cookie to this:

"Happiness is the true measure of a person's real worth."

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#17 Jan 24, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
In my home town, we originally had
"The Gay Community Center" (I helped to start it then moved on to other projects)
then it became
"The Gay and Lesbian Community Center"
then
"The Lesbian and Gay Community Center"
then
"The Lesbian, Gay and Bi Community Center"
then
"The Lesbian, Gay, Bi and Questioning Community Center"
then
"The Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Transgendered and Questioning Community Center"
then
"The Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Transgendered, Questioning and Others Community Center"
then
"The Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Transgendered, Questioning and Beyond Labels Community Center"
then
"The Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Transgendered, Family and Friends Of Community Center"
(These last five all occurred in a 3 year period)
About this time I got wind of this and began noising it about that it should be called
"The Anything-But-Hetero Community Center"
or
"The Pigeon-Hole Center"
or
"The Particularity Center"
I guess that embarrassed them and they finally settled on calling it
"The Diversity Center".
I still rag them that "Somebody from out of town STILL CAN'T FIND THEM IN THE PHONEBOOK!"
OMG you bring back so many memories.

Here in P.C. Ft.Lauderdale it called "The Pride Center at Equality Park"!

Yes that's it's real sign out front! And some people say gays aren't pretentious!

I remember when a group of leather guys broke away from the main group in Baltimore and took the name C.O.M.M.A.N.D.
(Can Our Men Make A Noticeable Difference).

A few years later while passing thru a loud raucous meeting they were having on the Eagle's 2nd floor, I overheard one member say to the group, "Jesus Christ you guys, you're all acting like our name really means "C'Mon Mary make a new dress!"

I kept moving. Daddy Rich had stuff for me to do!

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#18 Jan 24, 2012
BDE wrote:
Best discussion I have ever read here!
and to think it's because of that particular blog site!
AMAZING!

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#19 Jan 24, 2012
does this mean the end of the hankie codes?

LOL

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