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How soon should your daughter start seeing a gynecologist? Earlier than most people think, say Drs.

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Chris

United States

#92 Sep 24, 2012
Barbara wrote:
<quoted text> Thank you for your words Jake, but please dont waste anymore of your time with these 2 pervs from across the pond. All i can say, is thank God i am British, & not American. I have never ever come across 2 such nasty & disgusting men, but as i type i have my work friend who is from New York, over here for a Sales Convention, & he assures me that not all American men are like these 2, so my faith in human nature carries on. LOL. Take Care.
Boo-who. If your going to pitch, you got to be ready to catch, Lol.
Chris

United States

#93 Sep 24, 2012
Not With My Lady You Dont wrote:
<quoted text>
lol, amazing isn't it?
I've got $1,000 that says when you were a 10 year old kid you never thought you'd be giving female anatomy lessons to a woman......too funny.
you would win that one,Lol.
John

Louisville, KY

#94 Sep 24, 2012
Barbara wrote:
<quoted text> Why are you being abusive, just because someone else does not agree with your views. Every mother on the planet is more than capable of deciding what is best for their daughter, or son for that matter.
Its insane to say that just because one person may have had a bad experience with a doctor, that we therefore shouldnt trust any doctor.
Also, the medical profession in the UK is completely different to that in the United States. Over here, almost all preliminary gyno exams are conducted by the local family doctor. In most cases, a female doctor will undertake any intimate exam on a minor, but even if that is not possible, the mother is allowed in the room throughout any examination, & very often a female nurse as well.
My 10yr old daughter was having real pain passing urine a few weeks ago. We took her to the doctor, which in this case was a male doctor, & she had to remove her panties for the examination. While obviously it was not pleasant for her, she was fine, & the doctor was brilliant & friendly. It turned out she had a small cyst just inside her vagina, which has now been cured by tablets.
But to listen to you lot on here, i should never have taken her to see such an evil doctor.!!!
So, to sum that all up. You basically forced your 10-year old child to let a man examine her nude. You made no statement at all about opting to make sure a woman do that type of exam......just straight to the part where a man did it.......and YOU were ok with it. Well, I guess a few years may be needed to see if she really was ok with it or just saying so. You even said in your own preface statement that usually a "woman will handle intimate exams" and that sounds exactly what I would insist on with my daughter who is nine. So how exactly did the women doctors somehow get omitted to have the man looking at your child? Did you ask your child if she's comfortable with having to be naked in front of a man? Did she just say, fine, I don't care either way or did you just do it without her really having any say or imput about what was going to happen to her? It didn't happen to you, it happened to her. I sure hope you at least asked her and she said she's fine with it. I be honest I can't imagine any child actually preferring a grown man (stranger) to look (perhaps touch) nude between her legs. Was that actually her preference, her choice or just what mom forced her to do.
John

Louisville, KY

#95 Sep 24, 2012
Debz wrote:
<quoted text>
By all means take them to the gynecologist if they have an ailment......if they are healthy no need....being female isnt an illness. Also - if they do need to go to the gynecologist....make sure its a female to avoid sexual assault by male Dr.s - which is a real issue.....just do necessary research to become informed.
I speak as a 47yr old woman with 2 daughters mid 20's.....not as an 80+ old man....go figure
Let me add to your statement. Take them to a FEMALE doctor for an intimate exam. I can't even phanthom why a responsible, loving parent would take them to a male to have this exam. If my mom had made me get a nude exam at ten I would have been horrified but if she had forced me to have a woman do it instead of my own sex that would have been even worse. Why would a mom not ensure a lady performed a nude exam on your completely awake, aware and conscious child?
John

Louisville, KY

#96 Sep 24, 2012
jake wrote:
<quoted text>
You absolute idiot. Cervical cancer is not neccesarily heriditary however if family members have suffered from it then it can cause an increased risk. The same as heart disease etc. It does not guarentee it but it does however increase your risk. Im guessing you dont have children as what Katrina has done is weighed up her daughter suffering from a mild embarassment compared to loosing her like she did her neice at 14. Please try and make points with a little more consideration for others. We are all human and should not fight over such things. Cancer is an enemy that could affect us all.
What does this have to do with CHOOSING a male to have your young daughter examined and not insisting a woman do this exam. Do daughters who are taking by their mother's to have a man examine her nude between her legs even get a voice in this. Did the daughter say she preferred a man to do it? Otherwise it was cruel to have a man perform this exam.
Not With My Lady You Dont

AOL

#98 Sep 24, 2012
Chris wrote:
<quoted text> you would win that one,Lol.
Thought so! I know I'd have never thought I would be either!
Oh well.....tough job but somebody has to do it, right? lol
Chris

United States

#99 Sep 24, 2012
Barbara wrote:
<quoted text> Thank you for your words Jake, but please dont waste anymore of your time with these 2 pervs from across the pond. All i can say, is thank God i am British, & not American. I have never ever come across 2 such nasty & disgusting men, but as i type i have my work friend who is from New York, over here for a Sales Convention, & he assures me that not all American men are like these 2, so my faith in human nature carries on. LOL. Take Care.
Barbara refuses to let any FACTS get in the way of her argument .
Chris

United States

#100 Sep 24, 2012
Not With My Lady You Dont wrote:
<quoted text>
Thought so! I know I'd have never thought I would be either!
Oh well.....tough job but somebody has to do it, right? lol
RIGHT !
CHRIS

United States

#101 Sep 24, 2012
John wrote:
<quoted text>
So, to sum that all up. You basically forced your 10-year old child to let a man examine her nude. You made no statement at all about opting to make sure a woman do that type of exam......just straight to the part where a man did it.......and YOU were ok with it. Well, I guess a few years may be needed to see if she really was ok with it or just saying so. You even said in your own preface statement that usually a "woman will handle intimate exams" and that sounds exactly what I would insist on with my daughter who is nine. So how exactly did the women doctors somehow get omitted to have the man looking at your child? Did you ask your child if she's comfortable with having to be naked in front of a man? Did she just say, fine, I don't care either way or did you just do it without her really having any say or imput about what was going to happen to her? It didn't happen to you, it happened to her. I sure hope you at least asked her and she said she's fine with it. I be honest I can't imagine any child actually preferring a grown man (stranger) to look (perhaps touch) nude between her legs. Was that actually her preference, her choice or just what mom forced her to do.
So you and I wouldn't bring our 9 & 11 year old daughters to a male doctor for an intimate exam. Barbara DOES bring her 10 year old daughter to a male doctor for an intimate exam and she calls us pervs ? W.T.F. I'm I missing something hear ?
John

Louisville, KY

#102 Sep 24, 2012
CHRIS wrote:
<quoted text> So you and I wouldn't bring our 9 & 11 year old daughters to a male doctor for an intimate exam. Barbara DOES bring her 10 year old daughter to a male doctor for an intimate exam and she calls us pervs ? W.T.F. I'm I missing something hear ?
There is some truth to that logic. She seems to act as if there is something wrong with us to want to protect our children (daughters) and if for some reason there is a valid cause (symptom) to call for some nude pelvic exam on a child to insist that it only be performed by the same sex.....not forcing our daughter to be nude in front of a strange man. I consider that as a safe act, an act of protection. Why would she be bent out of shape by the notion of not forcing your child to be examined nude by the opposite sex? Don't girls get upset if a guy wonders into the ladies locker room? Wouldn't they scream and try to cover up? They don't do that when another girl/woman walks in. Why, at such a young age is the natural modesty one has thrown out the window over such an exposing, graphic exam. I honestly can't phanthom how a parent wouldn't step in and demand a woman doctor be provided for this and state plainly no man will be allowed to do this exam on the child. I can't imagine any little girl would opt for a man instead of a lady. I can't imagine not talking to my daughter about all of this.

I guess if she is saying they talked to her and she actually said she didn't want a woman to do it and "please mommy, get a man" that would be another issue. She has never stated how they ended up getting a man to do it. I would have the sex of the doctor planned out ahead of time, I wouldn't just show up and accept whoever they give you and if they tried to present a man and said no woman was available I'd leave, cancel and schedule it only when a woman is there as we will not force our child to be examined nude by a man.

I just sounds cruel. I just can't get over how a parent didn't insist only a lady will do this exam on my child. Anyway, she acts as if we are weird to want to protect our children.
Not With My Lady You Dont

AOL

#103 Sep 24, 2012
I'd be willing to bet the parents that brought their children to Dr. Earl Bradley swore by him at the time too. Just like Barbara.

Google that name. Over 11 million hits
CHRIS

Bedford, MA

#104 Sep 25, 2012
Not With My Lady You Dont wrote:
I'd be willing to bet the parents that brought their children to Dr. Earl Bradley swore by him at the time too. Just like Barbara.
Google that name. Over 11 million hits
Add Dr. Richard Keller, Boston's children's hospital to that list!
Not With My Lady You Dont

AOL

#105 Sep 25, 2012
CHRIS wrote:
<quoted text> Add Dr. Richard Keller, Boston's children's hospital to that list!
Oh CHRIS, don't get me started on Boston children's hospital...if I'm not mistaken, they are the ones that have a web site that encourages young girls (12-15 I believe) to start seeing gyno PIGS. They practically describe the exam for these children as if it will be fun.

When I first read it a couple of years ago, I couldn't get an email out to these PIGS fast enough. When I get a chance I'll see if I can find the site again if you want to see what I'm talking about. Then you tell me if it turns your stomach or not......
CHRIS

Holyoke, MA

#107 Sep 26, 2012
Not With My Lady You Dont wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh CHRIS, don't get me started on Boston children's hospital...if I'm not mistaken, they are the ones that have a web site that encourages young girls (12-15 I believe) to start seeing gyno PIGS. They practically describe the exam for these children as if it will be fun.
When I first read it a couple of years ago, I couldn't get an email out to these PIGS fast enough. When I get a chance I'll see if I can find the site again if you want to see what I'm talking about. Then you tell me if it turns your stomach or not......
It also happened in 2008
Debz

Ottawa, Canada

#109 Sep 28, 2012
jake wrote:
<quoted text>
Katerina I feel so bad that these people are giving you such abuse. I honestlt tink you have amde the right decision for your daughter. If there was and such chance of my daughter having any potentially life threatening medical conditions then yes I too would do what you have! I think your right about the NHS I am from the UK too. These americans have no idea because they pay out their nose for health care so get no real regular "care" at all. You are a brave person who has the best interests of her daughter at heart and I respect that. I hope and I am sure that her results are all clear and I am sorry to hear about your neice in particular. No babies should die EVER!
Please take the time to review my sincere posts on this matter I am a victim talking from experience....my assault happened in the UK in the 1980s at the hands of a GP. Please dont dismiss this forum as USA/North Americal bias....read between the lines and tune into the issues of hurt and victimization experienced by clients of the male dominated ob/gny profession

These days women have a real option to choose female OB/gyn care for themselves and their daughters.

For obvious reasons, Id love to just fast forward and "dictate that any woman refuse male Dr intimate care" because the potential of sexual abuse is a very real issue....but I have taken my time to inform you of ways you can make informed choices.

But please make a serious effort to become informed....keep your mind open and your daughters legs closed until you do "due diligence"

Read up on sexual assault cases....heard in court with all the evidence available....they cant be dismissed as fiction

The can be indication that this issue is still way under-reported. I didnt report my abuse....because like a fool I became a lamb to slaughter through my own ignorance and niaivety

Read the topix related threads....consider how loving male partners are traumatized by their women's well woman habits

Read the topix threads and note that many of the screening procedures are actually not essential or even advisable "Not with my Lady" is very informative on this topic

Read ways to protect your own and daughters modesty "Modest Woman" is very insightful and committed on this topic

Read patients testimonies.....look out for mine and keep in mind that now in my late 40s....this still looses me sleep

Please dont dismiss this oppertunity to protect and inform your beautiful daughters.
Debz

Ottawa, Canada

#110 Sep 28, 2012
Johnny O wrote:
Katerina, These respondents all seem to be brainwashed crazy.Pay no attention to them and do what the doctors tell u. Not Topix criticizers. I am an 85 year old man I know that some people pretend to know it all but in fact know nuthing. I hope no body was influenced to not take their 12 year old daughter to gynocologist. I could be fatal.
And thats your insightful 85 yr old male input is it?

Step to the left and respect the very real testimonies posted here....including mine - a victim of Dr. assault - a surviving female......something you will never be able to claim to be

Dont be-little the resposes as brainwashing.....no amount of brainwashing has been able to even clean my mind of the trauma I experienced within this "respectable, male dominated medical field of female ob/gyn care.

Thank God - things have mmoved on from your day sir....we can now opt for female ob/gyn care....so at least let us allow these mothers to make informed choices whilst they are still the guardians of their precious daughters.

On a seperate note - with such a rediculous contribution offered here by you - I seriously question why an 85yr old man is reading and studying up on this intimate thread related to young female sexual health? IM JUST SAYING!!!
Debz

Ottawa, Canada

#111 Sep 28, 2012
Barbara wrote:
<quoted text> Thank you for your words Jake, but please dont waste anymore of your time with these 2 pervs from across the pond. All i can say, is thank God i am British, & not American. I have never ever come across 2 such nasty & disgusting men, but as i type i have my work friend who is from New York, over here for a Sales Convention, & he assures me that not all American men are like these 2, so my faith in human nature carries on. LOL. Take Care.
ALTHOUGH IF YOU WERE TO COME ACROSS SUCH AN AMERICAN - HE"D LIKELY BE WORKING IN AN OB/GYN CLINIC......Check out Dr Jeff Gynecological procedure on You Tube.....something recommended in prep for your daughters long life's interaction with ob/gyn care.

Is this the type of American you had in mind - do feedback your thoughts to this thread please

Always good when we Brits can pigeon hole the rest of the world.....until ofcourse we "get that uneasy feeling in the Dr Office whilst legs in stirrups and backside exposed"

Thank God we're British - seriously - you need to wake up - if even just for the sake of your daughters.

Whilst on You tube....

Please take a chance to watch the Canadian Govn. Edc video for young girls "My first Pelvic exam"

Note how the young girl is fully naked for the pelvic exam and breast exam...no female nurse in attendance....male Dr offords the patient the consideration of leaving the room in order for her to fully undress.....only to come in and ask her to remove her paper gown for a fully nude intrusion.....just in order to tell her young self that she is "normal"

Notice that if you try and post a comment under the video - it will be with held....notice how the latest post is over a yr old and nothing negative is posted.....actually a lot of the comments sound as insightful as yours.

Finally keep in mind that - I became a victim of male GP abuse in the UK when I attended a London clinic for a "pregnancy test"

The doctot didnt have a nurse in attendance
asked me to get fully nude
Then performed an internal vaginal exam....whilst asking me stupic patronizing questions "have you had ses?"
Then prevented me from putting back on my nickers....
In order to have me sit up for the breast fondle

Then smuggly answered my niaive question "well kind Dr - am I pregnant" with - Oh we cant tell this way, drop off a urine sample and call in for the results"

So what was that procedure about then....I can only conclude it was about his own sexual gratification

I felt robbed in the worse possible way

20+ years it haunts me. It tainted my first pregnancy....my eldest daughter

It convicted me to never accept the male Dr for gyn care....IT HAS SERVED ME WELL IN THE PROTECTION OF MY OWN 2 DAUGHTERS

Who never see male Dr for intimate well women care. Thankfully in the yr 2012....they have plenty of excellent female ob/gyn staff to choose from
Johnny O

Bedford, MA

#112 Sep 28, 2012
Debz wrote:
<quoted text>
And thats your insightful 85 yr old male input is it?
Step to the left and respect the very real testimonies posted here....including mine - a victim of Dr. assault - a surviving female......something you will never be able to claim to be
Dont be-little the resposes as brainwashing.....no amount of brainwashing has been able to even clean my mind of the trauma I experienced within this "respectable, male dominated medical field of female ob/gyn care.
Thank God - things have mmoved on from your day sir....we can now opt for female ob/gyn care....so at least let us allow these mothers to make informed choices whilst they are still the guardians of their precious daughters.
On a seperate note - with such a rediculous contribution offered here by you - I seriously question why an 85yr old man is reading and studying up on this intimate thread related to young female sexual health? IM JUST SAYING!!!
Johnny o , retired obgyn. Owner of obgyn clinic. I'm retired though I still own the only all male obgyn clinic in the Northeast. I believe my older patients only want to see male doctors. I'm there every day supervising and assisting with some exams or acting as a chaperone. I enjoy helping woman.
Not With My Lady You Dont

AOL

#114 Sep 28, 2012
The news story in the following link was aired on local television Tuesday morning. I haven't had time until now to pass it along.

Keep in mind that he has yet to be tried, so still considered innocent. But why would 3 different women make similar complaints if nothing ever took place?

I'll reserve calling him a PIG until after the conviction. "How soon should your daughter start seeing a gynecologist?" Depends. How soon would you like to start throwing her to the wolves?

http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/crime/clinton-do...
Debz

Ottawa, Canada

#115 Sep 28, 2012
Katerina wrote:
<quoted text> Go f""k yourself, you sanctamonius little prick.!! My niece was 14 when she died of cancer of the uterous & my mum was only 40 when she died of cervical cancer. I go for regular tests & examinations, & it was on the recommendations of our hospital consultant that she recommended our daughters start to be tested early, & also in full agreement with our family G.P, who, yes , is a female doctor. What is wrong with you people.!! I honestly replied to this thread giving my own personal situation, & all i get is verbal abuse & name calling.
I'm very sorry to hear of your loss....I hope that I haven't accidentally offended you in my drive to protect women and young girls....these forums are an excellent source of information and debate - but should not be at the expense of peoples real and honest personal pain.

I can only just begin to imagine how let down you must feel - you have given us the back-drop to your personal medical experience and that of close family...and, for that, we are grateful.

In general, the commenters to these types of threads here on topix, are extremely respectful to women;

If this hasnt happened here....it is probably due to the strength of feeling on these matters.....it wasnt designed to deliberately hurt or offend.

Nevertheless, I apologise and I understand/respect your right to share your unique experience on this forum - without the threat of a potentially hurtful or insensitive audience. if indeed this is what has happened, it was not intentional and I for one will be midful of this in future posts.

Peace,

Debz

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